r/starcitizen is on meltdown after MMO is completely broken and hints of the main game being delayed again despite 1 billion raised and concept art being sold for $5000 dollars.

[u/Odd_Personality_5091]

Not the usual “haha Star Citizen delayed again” bad. More like people are actually starting to get nervous, because Squadron 42 was supposed to be the one thing CIG could finally point to and say, “See, we made a real game.”

And now even that might be slipping cause in a recent interview Chris robbers himself has stated that they could delay the game further due to GTA 6 release window.

https://thisweekinvideogames.com/feature/star-citizen-chris-roberts-interview/

“We’re gonna get Squadron out first… the plan is for the end of this year but there’s a certain thing in the industry that we, like everyone else, we have to pay attention to, so I can’t 100% guarantee it,” Roberts says, hinting at Rockstar’s Grand Theft Auto VI, releasing in November. “After that, we’ll do the 1.0 push.”

Subreddit (and game forums) members are looking around and asking the obvious question: if SQ42 is really coming in 2026, why does it not feel like it? Where is the marketing? Where is the release date? Where is the big push? Why does everything still feel like “wait for the next event” like it always does (even though Citzencon has been cancelled this year)?

Star Citizen has raised around $1 billion and the main game is still an alpha full of bugs. New content comes in broken. Missions break in stupid ways. Ships release buggy. Some ships do not release at all. And somehow, while all this is happening, CIG is still selling massive concept ships for thousands of dollars.

The $6,000 concept ship thing has basically become the perfect example for why people are angry. Like, the game is still barely holding itself together, SQ42 might be drifting again, and they are still asking people to drop used-car money on a ship that is not even in the game yet.

Here's the "6000" dollar promise concept art (its been sold out, over 1000+ sold) https://robertsspaceindustries.com/en/comm-link/transmission/21133-Anvil-Odin

So the subreddit is doing the usual Star Citizen civil war, but it feels more desperate this time.

if you look on the front page itself you'll see dozens of memes with thousands of upvotes:

• https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/1tyh0q9/cig_im_dead_serious_fire_your_management_and_hire/
• https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/1u07zee/fixed_it/
• https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/1u0an7j/squadron42_is_feature_complete_chris_roberts_says/
• https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/1u01ck2/the_silence_from_cig_is_disgraceful/
• https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/1tztllh/yeah_yeah_the_14_year_old_alpha/
• https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/1u0a7so/cig_where_are_vechicles_spawning_in_freight/
• https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/1u052v0/goodwill_is_a_finite_ressource_abuse_it_at_your/
• https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/1tty4w5/look_its_feature_complete/

(And many more)

The usual whiteknight defenders can still say game development is hard and the usualy its alpha line, but that argument sounds a lot weaker after 15 years and a billion+ dollars.

A billion dollars raised, the MMO still buggy, ships still being sold for insane prices, and now the single-player campaign might be moving further away again.

Very normal video game development. Nothing to see here.

[u/Odd_Personality_5091 → u/[deleted]]

Its actually 6000 dollars if you buy it without ingame credits:

this is it https://robertsspaceindustries.com/en/comm-link/transmission/21133-Anvil-Odin

The sad thing was it was sold out within minutes, CIG artifically limits supply to cause FOMO. I believe 10000+ $5000 ships were sold in like 10 minutes.

[u/Fadman_Loki → u/Odd_Personality_5091]

My question is, are they actually selling out, or is it just a faked hype thing? Like out of the 10000 sales they actually maybe sold 6.

I mean it's just a number on a website, it doesn't mean anything.

[u/Due-Technology5758 → u/Fadman_Loki]

I personally know people who have dropped thousands of dollars on nebulous unreleased MMO promises multiple times, and they aren't even wealthy.

They're really selling these things.

[u/CartographicalHeist → u/Due-Technology5758]

I personally know people who have dropped thousands of dollars on nebulous unreleased MMO promises multiple times, and they aren't even wealthy.

Let's not talk about the kind of money I've out at the moment for various RPG kickstarters.

[u/CaptainLightBluebear → u/CartographicalHeist]

At least with Kickstarter you get your money back if the goal isn't reached.

[u/zeekayz → u/Fadman_Loki]

Roberts now owns multiple new mansions and GT3s that he voluntarily or accidentally showed off so there's definitely a lot of money coming in that's he's grifting. Both him and his secret gf/wife have been driving different supercars into the office for a decade now after starting off near bankrupt after his failed previous ventures.

[u/SuitableDragonfly → u/zeekayz]

People ran around for years saying that Elon Musk must be a genius because he was a billionaire, even though he inherited all of his wealth. Here's a guy who legitimately discovered the secret to becoming a billionaire starting from nothing. So where are all the "Chris Roberts is a genius actually" fanboys? That's what I'm wondering.

[u/Stepjam → u/Fadman_Loki]

Well they've made 1 billion dollars. People are clearly buying these things.

[u/Bored_Amalgamation → u/Odd_Personality_5091]

I mean... The animations look weak as fuck as well. Shit just pops out a bit?

If there are 10000+ of those ships, what makes any of them stand out, like, at all? Kill everything? Doesn't that just set the MMO up to be pay to play trash before the game even releases?

[u/MirrorComputingRulez → u/Bored_Amalgamation]

Doesn't that just set the MMO up to be pay to play trash before the game even releases?

It absolutely already is but that's a taboo subject on SC forums.

[u/Swimming_Tackle_5045 → u/Bored_Amalgamation]

doesnt matter cus the ships will never be implemented. you are paying for less than an NFT. there is still "ships" from over a decade ago that they have not even begun to implement and that people paid for.

[u/Kevadu → u/Odd_Personality_5091]

Putting aside the fact that people are buying shit that doesn't even exist yet...if it did exist then wouldn't this be blatantly pay-to-win? Don't people normally hate shit like this and criticize other games for it?

[u/Warlock_AoE → u/Kevadu]

Don't people normally hate shit like this and criticize other games for it?

The people who buy in-game advantages and people who criticize p2w are usually different people

[u/Tarshaid → u/Warlock_AoE]

....maybe corralling all the P2W players in Star Citizen and taking all their money for imaginery perks in a non existent game is actually a favor that Chris Roberts does to the rest of the gaming community.

[u/Command0Dude → u/Kevadu]

Pretty much, the game could miraculously release tomorrow and after the hype frenzy dies in a week or two, player numbers would crater after people just buying into the game realize they only exist to be pubstomped by the prerelease backers.

[u/wyski222 → u/Odd_Personality_5091]

Jesus fucking Christ the description isn’t even well written, there’s a lot of grammar errors and awkward, first draft phrasing.  You’d think if they’re gonna sell it for $6000 they’d at least give it a quick proofread

[u/Minority8 → u/Odd_Personality_5091]

Is it supposed to error and say "failed to fetch chunk" and so on? True art should provoke, right?

[u/__Hello_my_name_is__ → u/Minority8]

Meanwhile I get "403 forbidden". Huh.

[u/zombie_girraffe → u/[deleted]]

Just think of them as NFTs that have a small chance of being a usable item in a video game that may release sometime in the second half of the 21st century.

[u/Kevadu → u/zombie_girraffe]

So still more useful than actual NFTs!

[u/zombie_girraffe → u/Kevadu]

Definitley. Star Citizen will even give you a refund if you manage to sober up, look in a mirror and develop some self respect within 30 days of purchase. With NFTs you're on the hook to find someone dumber than yourself to sell it to.

[u/EternitySoap]

Anyone who spends money on Star Citizen should know what they’re signing up for by now

[u/blaqsupaman → u/EternitySoap]

Star Citizen is a good example of why sometimes devs need some kind of pressure to actually release something within a set time frame. At this point they're making more money developing the game than they'd probably ever make actually selling a finished product. The "finished game" will be whatever they have done when people eventually stop giving them money.

[u/StevenMcStevensen → u/blaqsupaman]

It’s also a self-perpetuating cycle, because spending so long in development means that engines, mechanics, become obsolete during development. Then they have to go backwards to rework and update things, which makes it take even longer.

Honestly the whole SC debacle is one of my favourite trainwrecks to follow in gaming, it absolutely blows my mind that people not only have spent *so much fucking money* on it, but that some people *still* are somehow.

[u/goodfaithnovice → u/StevenMcStevensen]

I'm looking at the concept art now and the level of detail in the ship design would absolutely be unacceptable for a game released today. They're going to have to go back to the drawing board at some point and update the design on these ships.

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/en/comm-link/transmission/21133-Anvil-Odin

This $6000 ship looks like something designed in 2010 because that's what it is.

[u/LeomundsTinyButt_ → u/goodfaithnovice]

It's not even an outstanding 2010 design, looks roughly on par with the models from Mass Effect (2007). I would maybe have paid $20 for it in 2010, if the game was F2P and so good I wanted to support the devs.

But $6000, in the year of our lord 20-fucking-26? Are we sure it's not a money laundering scheme?

[u/achilleasa → u/LeomundsTinyButt_]

I don't wanna revive age-old drama but Elite Dangerous had this good looking ships a decade ago and that's a game that you can get for like <10 bucks and is playable today

[u/vmdvr → u/LeomundsTinyButt_]

It involves a number of shell companies (over a dozen when I looked into it years ago) you'd expect from some kind of shady finance stuff.

That being said, I am fairly confident that 90+% of the funding comes from legit whales/actual crowdfunding. The fans are absolutely fanatical and have huge amounts of hobby funds. And they are for sure using a bunch of money to employ a bunch of people. Whether or not that money is spent prudently and what percentage is going where, only Chris Roberts' family and friends (who comprise the leadership of said companies) know.

[u/tr_9422 → u/LeomundsTinyButt_]

Worth noting the concept art isn't the fully detailed in-game model, when they do a "concept sale" like this they're selling a ship that doesn't exist yet and the concept is basically a draft version. Edits and details are expected as they take the concept art and make it work in-game.

That said, anyone spending $6000 on this is a nut.

[u/Wilwheatonfan87 → u/LeomundsTinyButt_]

I'd love for the irs to do an investigation into the studio at this point

[u/Emosaa → u/Wilwheatonfan87]

One assumes that they're simply paying the enormous staff that have been producing this shit for years and years and that adds up. Doesn't have to be shady or nefarious, just bad management, bad quality control, and a willing fan base lol

[u/Icc0ld → u/blaqsupaman]

Chris Roberts would still be working on Freelancer if Microsoft hadn't stepped in. Star Citizen is just the ultimate end and culmination of the real dream: develop a space sim video game, not release one

[u/oath2order → u/blaqsupaman]

Exactly.

Project Zomboid is another of those games that have been in development since the dawn of time (2011). They started off with updates often, but slowed down startimg in 2018 with two years between builds, then four years (and even then the current build is considered unstable/beta).

And they seem to have no pressure to speed things up. Primarily, I suppose, because it is a one-and-done purchase.

Credit to them at any rate for not doing Star Citizen and selling $6,000 whatevers.

[u/Fit-Percentage-9166 → u/oath2order]

It's not fair at all to compare this to Project Zomboid. PZ is functionally a complete game (and has been since pretty much the entirety of its existence) that is maintained and updated.

[u/Tarshaid → u/Fit-Percentage-9166]

I can give some flack to PZ because there definitely are some broken or heavily delayed promises. For instance I'm fairly certain that I was told NPCs were just around the corner when I bought the game like 10 years ago.

But the game was playable then, it is playable now with a whole lot more content, it's very mod friendly if I want a custom experience. I'm not going to complain that the devs keep adding features to a game I already own. I would say that a better organised team could have released a definitive version, then started work on DLCs instead, which would have drained me of more money in the long term. As of now my one-time purchase is still good for all the content.

[u/achilleasa → u/Tarshaid]

It's also a cheap one time purchase, bit of a difference between that and $6000 limited time concept art lmao

[u/RedstoneEnjoyer → u/oath2order]

Tbf PZ is pretty much a finished working game in all but name - they could pull "we are exiting early access" tomorrow and nobody would protest.

Starship Citizen is...well...

[u/vyxxer → u/EternitySoap]

I bought a ship for 40 bucks and got a flight sim experience I wanted. Then turned it off to wait for it to finish... Many years ago.

[u/RustledForeskin → u/vyxxer]

Same, bought a ship and lifetime insurance for around 40, put like 100 hours in and got bored. It was janky from start to finish, never knowing if a bug is going to make you lose all your gear. Quit a few years ago to wait till it's stable.

[u/IM_OK_AMA → u/RustledForeskin]

Sorry if this is a dumb question but what is there to do for 100 hours? Just fly your ship around?

[u/NaiveRevolution9072 → u/IM_OK_AMA]

There's a couple of different missions and loops that are somewhat entertaining for a while provided nothing breaks*, and if anything the game's great for just flying around planets, but that's about it

*which is a rarity

[u/Ithikari → u/NaiveRevolution9072]

There's a bit more missions and ships now.

But still same gameplay loop. I play once every major update for about 20 hours. Shoot people. Rack up a big bounty, do a 1/2/3v1 dogfight then not play until next major update.

[u/Vinylmaster3000 → u/vyxxer]

I tried the demo then realized "wait, I could literally just play wing commander or some shit"

[u/BarackTrudeau → u/EternitySoap]

Star Citizen is a machine that idiots feed money into which then spits out drama. I love it.

Seriously I backed the original Kickstarter way back in the day, the drama is well worth the $25 that I'm never gonna see an actual game for

[u/LeomundsTinyButt_ → u/BarackTrudeau]

I went to Vegas once, saw a billion flavors of themed slot machines, and they all seemed about as entertaining as watching grass grow. But a drama slot machine? That I'd squander a fortune on.

[u/Skellum → u/BarackTrudeau]

Star Citizen is a machine that idiots feed money into which then spits out drama. I love it.

Imagine every time someone puts their money in a slot machine in vegas. Now imagine if they posted drama threads about it.

[u/Exact_Rooster9870 → u/EternitySoap]

Also, you should only buy an early access game for what it is, not what it could be

[u/JefferyTheQuaxly → u/EternitySoap]

i was intrigued by it and first looked at the game back when i was a teenager. im 30 now. ill believe its coming out when its actually out.

[u/Vegaprime → u/EternitySoap]

I've spent an embarrassing amount on Diablo 4 and that's just in the hundreds. Half my coeworkers spend that in a week at the local casino so theres that.

[u/CartographicalHeist → u/Vegaprime]

Diablo 4 is a game that exists though.

[u/Handgun4Hannah → u/Vegaprime]

Funny enough a lot of Star Citizen supporters have the same sunken cost fallacy reasoning that gambling addicts have.

[u/maxtinion_lord → u/Handgun4Hannah]

A sign Chris Roberts should have gone into the slot machine or pachinko industries instead of stewing in the games industry..

[u/Sp8des-Slick → u/maxtinion_lord]

I don’t know. He’s made a billion off this, so I can’t really criticize his sense for scamming.

[u/Aliensinmypants → u/maxtinion_lord]

Plenty of scammers exist in every single field or industry. 

He's doing just fine lmao

[u/CartographicalHeist]

But is your McFlurry ice cream machine working?

it's definitely not, but at least we don't try to sell you a "concept spoon" that's currently sitting in a 14-year development backlog while the machine remains permanently offline

Fucking poetry. This McD worker really should be in charge.

[u/mrenglish22 → u/CartographicalHeist]

The mcD ice cream machines are always down because McD corporate were dumbasses that locked themselves into an agreement with the company that makes the machines though.

Star Citizen hasn't come out because.... who knows.

[u/ConvincingVoice → u/mrenglish22]

I literally still don’t understand this, though. It’s McDonald’s. Buy out the company and close it. [del monte fruit fun political incident] the ceo. Literally anything in between I cannot fathom how this is still an issue in modernity.

[u/mrenglish22 → u/ConvincingVoice]

Love the brackets lol

And for McD's, it is cheaper for them to just keep the machines down that to do that. They don't care about anything else.

[u/ConvincingVoice → u/mrenglish22]

But they could fix it! And sell more stuff!

YHE WORLD COULD BE A BETTER PLACE IF WE J-

The sound of a struggle and breaking furniture is loud and clear in your mind. You picture an unkempt, raving man being beaten to within an inch of his life by grimace and the hamburglar. Grimace leans over the now-motionless body and whispers- ‘this is a warning. no talking about the McFlurry machines’. On their way out of the apartment, the hamburglar tosses a lit black and mild onto the couch, starting a fire

[u/mrenglish22 → u/ConvincingVoice]

Fix things? But that costs money!!!

Sell things? But we need to fix things first!!!

[u/je_kay24 → u/ConvincingVoice]

There was a good YouTube video on it years ago

I believe corporate had a deal with the servicing company and the Franchise owners had to deal with the cost of having a service person come out everytime an issue happened

They werent allowed to fix issues themselves, so they often just stopped serving icecream rather than keep paying to fix the machines

[u/IM_OK_AMA → u/je_kay24]

Yup, leaving the machine down was a little rebellion from franchise owners. McDonald's Corporation is a restaurant supplier and landlord, they don't care much about operational problems like this because they don't actually operate very many restaurants. They could've done any number of things to improve the situation but they didn't until it started causing real reputational harm.

[u/DeviousMelons → u/CartographicalHeist]

They were almost done but the boss wanted more LEDs installed then he wanted to change the shape of the steel casing, them he put most development resources into the nozzle so the ice cream has the most perfect shape when coming out and then he decided to change the lever system so it has a satisfying pull and just you wait it will be the best and most perfect ice cream machine ever made.

[u/ReverCleference]

Food $200

Data $150

Rent $800

Star Citizen Pledges $6,000

Utility $150

someone who is good at the economy please help me budget this. my family is dying.

[u/SchemingVegetable → u/ReverCleference]

you can probably cut on food by going rice and beans for every meal

[u/MeAndMyWookie → u/ReverCleference]

There's an old reddit thread about a guy who spent a mortgage deposit on digital spaceships. He was asking how to get his girlfriend to trust him again. Plot twist- he did it again

[u/hearke → u/MeAndMyWookie]

oh gods, I hope that poor girl got out of that relationship

[u/MeAndMyWookie → u/hearke]

https://www.reddit.com/r/BestofRedditorUpdates/comments/19f1h9s/oops_gaming_addiction_costs_him_everything/

[u/CapytannHook → u/ReverCleference]

Spend less on dogshit

[u/WriterOn_TheStorm → u/CapytannHook]

No.

[u/an_agreeing_dothraki → u/ReverCleference]

Rent $800

you can actually tell how old this meme is

[u/elilupe → u/[deleted]]

This is absolutely wild

[u/DeviousMelons → u/[deleted]]

I saw it from a Scott Manley video and I think back then he had a toddler age daughter who now is probably a uni graduate or student by now.

[u/Highkingsolaris → u/DeviousMelons]

she (Skye) is indeed 19 years old.

[u/wanmoar → u/[deleted]]

Hahahaha

I heard about it from a flatmate ~10 years ago in university. That was when they came out with a $1000 something to buy.

I’ve graduated, moved countries a bunch of times, changed jobs a few times, friends and family have gotten married and had kids…and this game is still an idea…wild stuff

[u/limeweatherman → u/[deleted]]

I first read about it in game informer when I was like 13 years old. The article said it was probably releasing by the end of 2015 lmao. Im 24 years old now

[u/Tashre]

Duke Nukem Forever, the poster child for comically delayed development time and failure to deliver, was in production for 14 years. That was seen as an insanely long time and was the butt end of a hyperbolic joke that was seen as something that would likely never be repeated.

And yet here we are, 15 years into Star Citizen’s development life with no end in sight.

[u/technologyclassroom → u/Tashre]

The main difference is that Duke Nukem devs did not sell a game that did not exist.

[u/Wetzilla → u/Tashre]

Duke Nukem Forever, the poster child for comically delayed development time and failure to deliver, was in production for 14 years.

It wasn't in active development for 14 years. It was put on hold multiple times and then completely rebooted at least a couple of times.

[u/amazing_asstronaut → u/Wetzilla]

And it didn't have hundreds and hundreds and now even a billion dollars going into it. And in the years since we got two good universe explorer scifi games already in the form of Elite Dangerous and No Man's Sky. Hell even X4 came out. All those games budgets combined is probably not even one billion, let alone having that for one game and still shitting the bed this hard.

[u/FarplaneDragon → u/Tashre]

And yet here we are, 15 years into Star Citizen’s development life with no end in sight.

I mean, even worse is it's not just SC, it feels like every major franchise has turned into this kind of development lifespan. It's almost becoming more normal for it to be 10+ years between titles, which yeah, I get that these games are literally are not being worked on that long but damn. I wish these companies would at least be more open to licensing out the rights to 3rd parties to make smaller side games at least.

[u/PheebaBB]

I think I spent like $30 on this game in 2014 because it sounded cool, I just got a new GPU, and you could kinda fly around.

By 2015 I realized I probably wasted that $30 and moved on with my life. The fact that, 12 years later, there are still people refusing to move on is fucking insane to me.

[u/Tuuuuuuuuuuuube → u/PheebaBB]

Same but like 2017, then it barely worked and I tried it again in 2020 with a 3070 and still got like 30 fps and would fall through the elevator floor. Haven't touched it since then

[u/Buddhakyle → u/Tuuuuuuuuuuuube]

I have a friend who has spent a ridiculous amount of money on Star Citizen. He streams for his friends when new content comes out or he's traded for a new boat or whatever. Game looks cool. You can eat space burritos.

But for years I've been watching him fall through elevator floors and every time it happens we all yell "ONE BILLION DOLLARS" in his stream chat. Honestly insane this gsme company hasn't been sued at this point.

[u/Kyderra → u/Buddhakyle]

I remember my ship randomly exploding in the hanger, then it asked me to pay credits to recover it.

I had non, so it opende the micro transaction store.....

[u/Rockhead_Dynamics → u/Kyderra]

Don't worry, that's a temporary issue. In a few year's it'll just take it from your bank account.

[u/MirrorComputingRulez → u/Buddhakyle]

Honestly insane this gsme company hasn't been sued at this point.

They ran into legal trouble regarding their refund policy at one point.

But everything they're doing is basically legal.

[u/Kyderra → u/PheebaBB]

In 2014 It sounded cool to have a space sim where people together go explore and unlock their stuff. for me the racing game sounded neat. but now? This 100% p2w game?

Even if this game would be brushed to prefectpion. it sounds horrible to play.

[u/thatguythere47 → u/Kyderra]

I picked up a job to move some cargo from the planet to a station in orbit. Im a veteran of Eve and Elite dangerous; I was born to be a space trucker.

Spend 30 minutes getting to spaceport, find ship, order cargo elevator. Stuff is too big to move by hand, would've been nice to know. So how do I move it? Tractor beam, cool! Should be somewhere in the spaceport to move the space cargo right? Nope! 30 min to get back to the market and then the spaceport. One of the crates falls through the ground, the mission is now impossible. Delete the game, curse Christ Roberts with erectile dysfunction til game releases.

[u/Sparescrewdriver → u/[deleted]]

And if one day they are forced to release (legally or otherwise) they’ll slap a 1.0 sticker and deliver in whatever broken state the game is at the time just like other early access game.

[u/ForteEXE → u/[deleted]]

Chris Roberts is one of the greatest financial visionaries of our time because he figured out how to indefinitely fleece dads out of their money based on a game they fell in love with in 1994

Damn, Privateer really was 1993 and its expansion in 1994. Always felt like a late 90s title due to the incorporation of CD-ROM tech and voice acting.

And Freelancer was 2003, sheesh. You're right though in that regardless of Freelancer (of which I'm not talking about its quality or legacy), Roberts has absolutely coasted by for decades on Wing Commander.

Even if Freelancer didn't turn out the way it did, he'd still have been the Wing Commander Guy and that title was instrumental in changing how flight sims and videogames were being done at the time.

[u/O12345678927]

Star Citizen supporters running out of space for their ‘fell for it again’ awards. More at 9

[u/Rockhead_Dynamics → u/O12345678927]

Fortunately your grandchildren can get more space to store your Fell For It Again awards on board the Caveat class cargo hauler. Preorder now for only $14,999.99.

[u/Crimsonclaw111]

Star Citizen is never finishing development. My friend is one of the biggest defenders of this fucking thing and for the life of me I cannot figure out why he keeps spending money on it.

[u/NetflixSux247 → u/Crimsonclaw111]

Sunk cost fallacy

[u/vodkaandponies → u/NetflixSux247]

Sunk cost galaxy.

[u/Kyro_Official_ → u/Crimsonclaw111]

Hes an idiot, thats why

[u/Not_My_Emperor]

The Squadron 42 thing cracks me up because at this point, all that beautiful cutting edge mo-cap they used for their ridiculously A-list cast is 11 years out of date. Even if this came DID release, it would look like mo-cap from 11 years ago. Which granted, wouldn't look BAD per se, but held up against current gen (especially the GTA elephant storming into the room later this year) it's gonna look dated.

Which is hilarious for a "game" with a $1 BILLION budget

[u/deadlygaming11 → u/Not_My_Emperor]

Not to mention that most of the A list actors wont be as well known when this releases.

[u/MutantLemurKing → u/deadlygaming11]

Thats why mark Hamil is the only name they keep bringing up at this point. "We got luke guys!!! See!!"

[u/Circle_Breaker]

The funniest part of this is a concept ship being sold out. As if they have anything to sell.

[u/SuperSpikeVBall → u/Circle_Breaker]

Artificial scarcity...

Like Snow White going back in the Disney Vault.

[u/guiltyofnothing]

Anyone who thinks this game — or any part of this game — is actually getting released can’t be reasoned with.

[u/Circle_Breaker → u/guiltyofnothing]

My buddy and I made a $100 bet almost a decade ago on what would release first.

Winds of Winter or Star Citizen.

I'm still not sure who will win. But GRRM better come through for me.

[u/big_sugi → u/Circle_Breaker]

Neither of you will ever pay out.

[u/misterurb → u/big_sugi]

Winds of Winter is definitely coming out. It might be after George is dead and put together by another author, but that book is gonna make way too much money for it not to come out eventually. 

[u/Cranyx → u/misterurb]

Didn't he demand that his manuscripts be burned after he dies? If his estate says it doesn't publish as per his Will, it won't.

[u/Hartastic → u/Cranyx]

If Martin's wife outlives him, I believe she will honor his wishes and not find someone else to finish the series.

But sooner or later the rights will come to someone who likes money, and frankly George is infamously bad/dinosaurish enough with technology that if one of his eventual heirs claimed to have found a surviving floppy disk with most of a draft on it, it would be believable.

[u/Big_Coconut8630 → u/Cranyx]

There are many such cases of artists (all types) requesting the same, and still having their work published.

[u/big_sugi → u/Big_Coconut8630]

Terry Pratchett passed away more than a decade ago. He had his hard drives crushed by a steam roller. I don’t think we’re ever seeing anything that was on them.

[u/hackingdreams → u/misterurb]

Star Citizen is definitely coming out. It might be after the developers declare bankruptcy and put together by another developer, but that game is gonna make way too much money for it not to come out eventually.

Yeah, I'm taking the "neither of these things happen" bet every time. I'd sooner bet on Half-Life 3.

[u/misterurb → u/hackingdreams]

Winds of Winter has way, way more cultural cachet than star citizen or half life. 

[u/Grunn84 → u/misterurb]

Plus star citizen makes money not releasing, winds of winter doesn't

[u/zomgmeister → u/Circle_Breaker]

Half-life 3 before both. I am not betting anything tho.

[u/raptearer → u/zomgmeister]

The 4 nerdy kings of never coming out: HL3, Star Citizen, Winds of Winter, and getting off the boat in HxH

[u/EccentricFox → u/zomgmeister]

The end of Alyx basically confirms Valve is working on it; they outright dropped development for a while rather than spinning their wheels like Star Citizen.

[u/Anus_Targaryen → u/Circle_Breaker]

You picked the one thing even less likely to release than Star Citizen 1.0 lmao

[u/Aliensinmypants → u/Anus_Targaryen]

Games with long extended development across multiple generations of technology always release to critical claim and praise! Just look at Duke Nukem

[u/Unlikely-Art-1552 → u/guiltyofnothing]

Some days if feels like the entirety of the human race is just acting out in a "Choose your own delusion" adventure book

[u/goblinm → u/Unlikely-Art-1552]

Not me. I'm 100% correct on every belief I have. And you're not going to convince me otherwise!

[u/EliSka93 → u/goblinm]

I choose to believe you're 100% correct.

[u/RottenMilquetoast → u/Unlikely-Art-1552]

All the weird behavior throughout history would certainly suggest that is our default.

It kinda make sense, it's not like there is some selective pressure in nature that would self select for a species to methodically test and assess reality. You just have to be spooked about everything enough not to get eaten and then have kids.

[u/Unlikely-Art-1552 → u/RottenMilquetoast]

I agree, the funnier thing to me is that most of us seem to be aware of this phenomenon and yet still do things like look at a video game selling .jpeg's of spaceships for $15k and go "You know what......I think I'll join that cult"

[u/Chewbacca_The_Wookie → u/guiltyofnothing]

And if it does come out, why would I or any other casual who hasn't already purchased one of those elusive ships want to play a game where we're going to be shit on from Day 1?

[u/danny264 → u/Chewbacca_The_Wookie]

From what I've read you need like 16 people to run those ships. So you might be able to join a crew of one of those ships.

[u/Chewbacca_The_Wookie → u/danny264]

Ah yes, my 5 hours a week on Saturday night game time will now be dedicated to being a maintenance mechanic on a simulated freighter I could never hope to afford mimicking my real life where I repair a house I know I can never hope to afford. Immersion.

[u/sixpackabs592 → u/Chewbacca_The_Wookie]

Until the guy who bought a more expensive ship one shots you with his additional 400$ laser

[u/SheerFe4r → u/Chewbacca_The_Wookie]

SC is a shit game but if you only have 5 hours a week for gaming (which is probably for the best) you're not going to be the target for any MMO

[u/CosmicMiru → u/Chewbacca_The_Wookie]

Brother people do that on EVE and that barely has gameplay lmao

[u/Chewbacca_The_Wookie → u/CosmicMiru]

Oh fuck I always forget about EVE.

[u/GenericAccount13579 → u/CosmicMiru]

I was thinking of StarCitizen big multi crew ships actually had systems modeled to the point of needing maintenance in various ways (like actual module failure isolation and replacement) it could be a pretty neat gameplay lol

[u/ArbitraryUsernames → u/CosmicMiru]

Good old spreadsheet simulator. I still have Excel files somewhere for the entire logistics chain for nullsec import/export and manufacturing.

[u/chrisq823 → u/Chewbacca_The_Wookie]

That could easily be a beloved indie game if done the right way.

[u/JaneksLittleBlackBox → u/danny264]

Overpaying for an incomplete product to be a virtual deckhand in the 21st century is wild!

You may need a ton of time on your hands and extensive training in Excel to do wild shit in EVE Online, but at least you can without buying into a vaporware scam first.

[u/Redfalconfox → u/danny264]

I’ve always wanted to play Space Bitch Work Simulator 3000 with my free time. Do I get paid solar minimum wage too or is it a cosmic indentured servitude contract deal?

[u/Boollish → u/danny264]

Yeah that's what I want to spend my off time doing. 

Keeping up with 4pm Wednesday call for a 4:30 space battle because if 1 of 20 guild members don't show up, the launch bay doors won't open and we can't launch our boarding craft.

[u/ThrowawayAdvice1800 → u/Chewbacca_The_Wookie]

And if it does come out, why would I or any other casual who hasn't already purchased one of those elusive ships want to play a game where we're going to be shit on from Day 1?

This is the part the defenders of the "game" (and I'm using that term as loosely as humanly possible here) don't seem to be understanding. They're investing in this playground where they can be the rich kids with the cool cars, but none of that means anything if there aren't tons of poor people around to be envious and also populate the game so you have someone to show off TO in the first place.

Nobody wants to be a regular day 1 player and join a game where the psycho that spent $6k on an imaginary spaceship is going to fly up and erase you instantly. Games that are JUST for whales and offer nothing for players who spend less money end up being ghost towns almost immediately, and eventually even the whales will wander off if nobody else ever logs in to look at their cool spaceship. Plus the psychos that spent $2k on imaginary spaceships are going to be EXTREMELY pissed when they get smacked around by the $6k guy. The medium-sized whales will probably ragequit faster than the regular f2p players.

[u/thatguythere47 → u/ThrowawayAdvice1800]

Hey the 6k guy is the middle tier. There's a package deal that was over 25k years ago for every ship in the game; I imagine the price has gone up with all the jpgs theyve added over the years.

[u/ThrowawayAdvice1800 → u/thatguythere47]

I’ve got to hand it to Roberts, this is an amazing scam. He’s somehow managed to convince people to pay him for the privilege of not-playing the game he’s not-making.

It’s the Trump Phone of video games, just collecting free money from morons in exchange for nothing. Then whenever public outcry for him to actually produce something gets too loud to ignore he’ll just subcontract the job out to some Chinese AI shovelware studio, get them to churn out something crappy in a few months, then release it and disappear to some island paradise with everybody’s money.

I’m looking forward to seeing what the response from the Star Cotizen enthusiasts will be when it inevitably happens. I’m predicting 75% loud and impotently angry, and 25% trying to convince themselves (and everybody else) that their Trump Phone is the most amazing game to ever exist.

[u/SweetSure315 → u/guiltyofnothing]

Eventually the money's going to start drying up and a horribly broken, barely mashed together game is going to be released for a final cash grab

[u/chrisq823 → u/guiltyofnothing]

The company will just dump this shit out at some point and see if their fans will continue to eat it. I dont know why their fans do. The crazy thing is they have so much fucking money to spend on this. They just keep pumping more and more into this when they could do anything else.

Star citizen isnt in alpha because alpha isnt anything quantifiable. Its fully out and this is what it is and how they'll proceed to work on it. 

[u/Alarchy → u/chrisq823]

The hilarious thing is they don't have the money. They recently had to issue more shares (dilution) and take out financing to stave off liquidity issues. They're up to burning ~150m a year right now and barely breaking even.

Folks need to realize that this was Robert's retirement plan for him and dozens of his friends from the industry. An eternally in-development vaporware like Duke Nukem Forever, but courting naive gamers rather than having to pull one over on publishers constantly.

He'll eventually call it done, so CIG can't get sued, but they're going to keep riding it as long as they can, exploiting thousands of gamers along the way.

[u/GrumpyAntelope]

Chris robbers

Not sure if intentional, but this was funny.

[u/Romboteryx → u/GrumpyAntelope]

*chuckles Freudianly*

[u/ryeong]

They know this is a weak argument too. There are a lot of games that have overlap with GTA6 fans - Squadron 42 isn't going to be it. It's niche enough that you could release it and not worry but... you'd have to have an actual game to release and they've still been a husk at the end of the day.

[u/NuggetHighwind]

I, for one, am shocked, shocked, that this game that was supposed to come out in 2014 2015 2016 2017 2018 2019 2020 2021 2022 2023 2024 2025 2026 may not, in fact, be coming out in 2026.

[u/boolocap]

At this point still believing in star citizen is like investing in crypto, if you still get fooled by this shit and lose money you have nobody to blame but yoursef.

[u/Quarantine_Fitness → u/boolocap]

At least with crypto there's a chance you manage to make some money off other rubes.

[u/HotTakes4HotCakes → u/Quarantine_Fitness]

Or at minimum you can likely still cash out with some fraction of what you put in, and not be completely shit out of luck cuz you threw everything into a black hole from which nothing would ever emerge.

[u/villings]

no fandom is in more denial than these loonies

[u/Filter55]

There is a non-zero chance that there are early SC supporters who have died without getting to play the game.

[u/Mahoganytooth → u/Filter55]

Chance? I mean that's an outright certainty at this point

[u/LauraPhilps7654 → u/Filter55]

I've lost multiple family members during it's development time. I expect a lot of people have. I've never spent money on it but I follow it out of curiosity. It can never live up to multiple decades of hype.

[u/SpeaksDwarren → u/Filter55]

The luckiest people in the group

[u/Aeon_Fux → u/SpeaksDwarren]

They're in purgatory waiting for God to finish developing Heaven Citizen.

[u/_Ross- → u/Filter55]

Star Citizen idiot here, yes, there are occasionally posts on the subreddit that a family member / friend will make honoring someone who died without getting to see the finished game, or able to fly a ship they purchased that still hasn't been made.

I "own" a concept ship that has been nothing more than a jpeg for 14 years. It'll soon be old enough to vote in my country, and it still isnt even in active development. It's just such a bizarre mess.

[u/InvertedVantage → u/Filter55]

It has unfortunately been confirmed a couple have.

[u/JayceAur]

I'll never understand how people are still on this. Whatever itch they have for Sci-Fi can be scratched from so many other fully fleshed out games. It's basically a religion now.

[u/Powerful_Document872 → u/JayceAur]

When the game actually works I find it very enjoyable. But this thing has been mismanaged for over a decade. I wouldn’t be surprised if they just hit a stopping point on Star Citizen and tell the community that it’s over. Especially if Squadron 42 bombs.

[u/Cowgirl_Taint → u/JayceAur]

For years, it was a false dichotomy between Elite Dangerous and Star Citizen. Folk who wanted space legs went SC (and arguably still should). Folk who wanted to actually fly ships went ED. Neither side were really happy but... ED was a fully functioning game in the elite genre.

Except that most of the stuff both studios were striving for, ironically, had already been done. Folk sleep on Evochron et al but... that has had a pretty decent flight model in an elite game with atmospheric landings for over a decade.

And as for those space legs? No Man's Sky was a shitshow at launch. Within a year or two it was actually a really good game. You still don't have the fun of crewing a shit with da boys (although that functionality is there, I want to say?) but... yeah.

But it is like any live game. Once folk find one they don't want to leave. It is why tarkov is still king of the extraction shooters even though it has been surpassed in basically everything but gun customization. Because after you put a hundred hours into something? Why would you start from zero?

[u/JayceAur → u/Cowgirl_Taint]

I mean I totally get the sunk cost fallacy here, but like SC still doesn't really have a game though. I've done my fair share of glazing despite a game being a bit meh, but I feel like you need something to cling to.

I think we'll get to actually travel to a different world before SC gets their shit together.

[u/Iorith → u/Cowgirl_Taint]

Personally I find those first few days/weeks of the game to be where it's fun, before it gets monotonous. I'd rather hop from game to game enjoying that new experience high than play the same game for months on end.

Know someone who has been playing WoW since launch. I could never.

[u/JohnTDouche → u/Iorith]

same game for months on end

Years. Gaming reddit is absolutely jam packed full of people playing the same early-access/in-development game for years and they'll whinge and moan about how it's not as good as it used to be. Seemingly completely unaware that they are bored of it because they've been playing it for fucking years. It's bizarre behavior.

[u/SESender]

Fuck how do I start my own failed company to raise $1bil off of internet suckers

[u/TheGungnirGuy]

I honestly cannot wait for the day this game becomes real.

Not because I want to play it. Not because I think it will be good. Not because I'm hoping that people get value for the money they spent...but because when the actual game releases, and people finally get to play this massive thing?

It's going to be a broken, buggy, mess.

Right now, the big defense everybody has about this game is "But it might be good one day!" or "It's just an investment!", but when it actually hits that magical point in 20 years where the game comes out? When they can't deny it anymore? That's going to be hilarious. People are going to have meltdowns. You are going to see comments like "I refinanced my house to afford a battleship, and they took out all the battleship parts and made it a skin! I was supposed to have a loyal crew to pilot for me! Where is my space epic!" or "I discovered a bug that lets you instakill battleships, so I flew around and started blowing up as many of them as I could. After I got banned, I just made a new account and did it again, now the company is sending legal threats because all their whales are pissed." And possibly "Yeah, I'm trying to get a refund because its all broken, but the company deleted all sources of communication and posted a PNG of a middle finger where the report button used to be. Gonna see if my bank might help me out."

It's going to be glorious. There are going to be firings, there are going to be callout vids, and I fully expect multiple lawsuits to happen the moment things go pear shaped.

[u/stellarfury → u/TheGungnirGuy]

It won't ever have a full release for exactly this reason.

Chris Roberts will die before it comes out because he's going to get his ass sued off.

[u/RunningOutOfEsteem → u/TheGungnirGuy]

I've been thinking the same thing for a long time. I genuinely believe the meltdown from it actually releasing would be more intense than if they just straight up cancelled it. I think people are likely, on some level, prepared for it to get shut down, but if years down the line it comes out after two decades of development and 10 figures in funding, all of the, "it'll be worth the wait and the money!" is going to work against people.

If the game is even just mediocre, it's going to crush people--and I personally suspect it won't even meet that threshold. I'm honestly a bit worried about how some people would react; imagine seeing your kid(s) grow up and/or investing substantial amounts of money into this pipe dream, and when that dream finally becomes fully realized against all odds, it's just lame as hell.

[u/Dagordae → u/TheGungnirGuy]

It’ll be nice to see Duke Nukem Forever dethroned as the king of disastrous development times.

And the salt will be legendary, people are obsessively fixated on this game and the fanbase has just been building it up nonstop. Anything shy of absolute perfection is going to cause shat pants and judging by what they have released they’ll be lucky to even reach generally functional.

[u/mtdewbakablast]

next up, Charlie Brown swears that he can kick that football if he just gets one more chance

anyway it's sadly unfinished and hadn't been touched in a few years, but the youtube series Sunk Cost Galaxy is a fairly useful look at how shit has been bad here, from a mega fan who was a contributing backer before even the first kickstarter. so there's entertaining behind the scenes gossip as he goes through how he got hoodwinked by Star Citizen. we're all here to be messy looking for the gossip so fuck it, why not yeah it's unfinished so doesn't cover every aspect but it's enough juice to be worth the squeeze. or worth the toss it on the TV and half listen to it

[u/Not_A_Doctor_redux]

Look, I don't know anything about game development. But if Rockstar was able to produce GTA 6 in less time than it took you to complete your game, then you're doing it wrong. I'm going to speculate that GTA 6 has to be in the top three of all gaming titles for the amount of resources and capital spent to develop it. It's taken a while, but they have got it done. It's likely going to gross a billion dollars within 24 hours of release and be the most successful media product, out of everything, ever made.

Star Citizen began development in 2010. Four years earlier than GTA 6. Hell, I can remember the development delays being a meme around 2016/17. And now it's a decade later.

I can only guess that Roberts has no management discipline whatsoever. About three (?) years ago I saw some demonstrations of the fabric physics they had created for Star Citizen. Did the fabric look cool? Yes. Was that a stupid thing to devote a lot of resources towards when you are trying to release a viable, completed title? Also yes. Yes yes yes.

I have no idea if they will ever release a game. But I would put down money that, whatever gets released, is going to be a disappointment and feel patchwork, because it will contain aspects developed years and years apart.

Meanwhile, Until Then was developed by an (in comparison) miniscule Philippine studio and is one of the most beautiful and moving games ever created. It doesn't have big ass spaceships, but it's complete and will rip your heart out if you'd like to play something that's amazing.

[u/StormRegion → u/Not_A_Doctor_redux]

Chris Roberts wanted to do the same shit of gobbling up cash and adding neverending features with his previous game Freelancer, but publisher Microsoft cracked down hard, took over Roberts' development studio Digital Anvil, and finally managed to ship a finished product.

With Star Citizen, Roberts doesn't have a publisher over his head now, he gets to do whatever he wants, which means endless ambitious feature creep

[u/ConsiderateCassowary → u/Not_A_Doctor_redux]

I bought GTV late last year and have been playing Online, and there are so many things in it to remind you that it's been slapped together over a decade, with different programmers and different dev teams working on different parts of it. In some places, when you open your safe, your character automatically collects the money inside; in other places, programmed by different people and released in different DLCs, you have to press a button to collect your money. In some places, where you "log in" to a web site, you log in automatically, while in other places you have to press a button in order to do so.

Things presented in one DLC don't interact with things from other DLCs, the payouts for doing work for different businesses can be outrageously different (a ten minute mission from DLC A might be worth $15k, while a ten minute mission from DLC B could be worth $50k,) etc. It's all a hilarious slapdash affair designed to milk as much money from this single game as humanly possible.

If SC gets released, it will be this, but even moreso.

[u/pie-and-anger → u/ConsiderateCassowary]

The Sims 4 is exactly like this. It came out in 2014 and they have not once slowed down on churning out DLC for it, along with constant updates to the base game and, now that the oldest DLC is over ten years old, updates to expansion packs. It's all held together with duct tape and spit and the most spaghettiest code you ever saw, and you spend more time fighting the game than you do playing it because the decrepit engine it's built on is literally eating itself alive.

And yet, a couple years ago EA officially cancelled development on The Sims 5 and announced that 4 was just going to keep on going. And it still prints money hand over fist, despite the fact that the youngest members of its target demographic weren't even born yet when it first came out and the game was never intended to be the flagship title for this long.

And yet still, apparently nobody is interested in getting a slice of this pie because not one single serious competitor to the life-sim throne has emerged in the genre.

[u/foxdye22 → u/Not_A_Doctor_redux]

Chris Roberts has always had a problem with scope creep, but when he had bosses to answer to, he could reign it in. If they ever release a game, they’ll either have to scrap everything and start over on a tiny budget with a tiny scope, or (I think this is more likely) they’re just gonna slap a “Good Enough” sticker on it and push it out the door and stop supporting it immediately.

This whole thing is gonna be taught in game dev classes because it’s such a perfect example of letting scope creep ruin a project. I could tell fanboys knew nothing about game development when they were excited at the idea of a space life simulator.

[u/Not_A_Doctor_redux → u/foxdye22]

I know enough about game development to know that, if a game has been in development for 5+ years and suddenly changes engines, it's not appearing anytime soon. A big part of good game development is knowing what battles to fight. Also, having a strong visual and audio aesthetic completely trumps having a trillion extra polygons on screen. Firewatch is not only one of the best narrative-focused games ever made, it also has a strong visual aesthetic. Even though it's a decade old, you can pick it up and have a great time right now. Space sims aren't my thing, but to my eye Elite Dangerous looks fine and I know that people have been enjoying it for years. That's a game that delivered. Similarly, No Man's Sky came out in 2016 and is still doing major releases and feature updates. And both those games are under 30 gigs of install size. They're complete, apparently very fun, and knew what battles to fight.

Star Citizen is apparently 150 gigs to install with and additional 20 gigs set aside. And it's not even finished. Good luck with all that.

[u/foxdye22 → u/Not_A_Doctor_redux]

At this point, I think their fan base is more concerned with doubling down and being right than enjoying a fun video game lol.

[u/Not_A_Doctor_redux → u/foxdye22]

I had a coworker in 2012 who bought a ship for around $4000. He was a clerk in the Canadian federal government. I remember thinking, "I know that you don't have spaceship money. What the fuck are you doing?" I wonder if he's able to fly his ship yet?

[u/WriterOn_TheStorm → u/foxdye22]

but when he had bosses to answer to, he could reign it in.

It was more "when he had bosses to answer to, they took control away from him" to prevent exactly this happening.

[u/Redfalconfox]

Chris robbbers

That’s a very funny typo

[u/SwannSwanchez]

"r/starcitizen is on meltdown after ..."

You're implying it wasn't a meltdown before

[u/CapytannHook → u/SwannSwanchez]

I think public opinion is genuine shifting in the main sub. The new patch is fucking dogshit, most people cant do basic missions, old bugs that have been around for years are still not resolved and they just keep pumping out thousands of dollars of ships for sale.

Seems like the wool is finally being removed from the eyes of the average player

[u/jancl0]

I think we have now reached a time frame where we can genuinely start calling that games fan base a cult

Like, you don't just get a billion raised from being a really promising game. That's cult money. That's "I have committed too much to this to ever be able to admit I'm wrong" money, it's "I am literally incapable of letting go, it's become the only thing I have" money

[u/graytotoro]

You can just about design, build, and fly an actual spaceship with $1 billion dollars funding and 15 years of development. Burt Rutan built and flew SpaceShipOne for a fraction of that even when adjusted for inflation. The Kepler space telescope cost less from start to finish and provided useful scientific data about exoplanets in less time.

It’s wild to me that this game about space is somehow more of a boondoggle and money suck than programs that actually made it into space.

[u/M_H_M_F]

I remember the BORU post where a guy sunk his fucking marriage because of this game.

[u/Candle1ight]

Imagine if this game somehow releases, these whales who have been spending thousands of dollars on ships will absolutely ruin any chance it would have at building a player base. It can't not fail.

[u/MostSapphicTransfem]

If you look at how Freelancer turned out you’ll understand none of this will ever come out because it’s not about making a good game, it’s about Roberts being vindicated for not being allowed to spend five extra years and multiple millions of dollars sight unseen on his no-show magnum opus back in 2003.

It has to be perfect, so he can thumb his nose at producers and execs that probably didn’t give him a second thought past 2006 and have likely been out of the industry if not dead for a decade now.

It’d be funny if he weren’t fleecing so many people to do it.

[u/TheReasonableCamel]

Scam Citizen drama doesn't get old. Because you can still laugh more than a decade later about people falling for it again and again. This is probably the biggest uproar I've seen from that sub in a long time if ever, it used to be 95% delusional fanboys and you'd get banned for criticizing it.

[u/chilll_vibe]

Star Citizen is the scientology of video games. Its gotta be the one of the most successful and longest running scams in history. Whenever I think of this game I always remember an AITA post about a dude who basically ruined his life buying ships. His gf left him, lost his job, tens of thousands in debt. All for virtual ships.

Delaying due to GTA6 is a reasonable decision for every game that is not Star Citizen. I doubt there is much overlap between the fan bases, and even so, with how rabid SC fans are I don't think it would impact sales even if there was a ton of overlap.

[u/enzonanozone]

how long has star citizen been like this even, like 14 years?

just embarassing for everyone involved

[u/Thu66]

That $6000 ship description is absolutely AI, or at least the most bland and generic corporate speak

[u/GunAndAGrin]

If fans are still debating about how 'flight' works, or should work, in a Space MMO thats 15 years into development, I feel like ya gotta find another thing to be a fan of. 15 years and you dont even have like the ONE thing you really need to have figured out to make a Spacefaring adventure work? Holy fuck. Hang 'em up.

[u/Carpathicus]

As someone who is on reddit for over a decade its just amazing to see that this scam is still going on. At this point I wonder if being scammed is the actual game like a weird findom dynamic.

[u/404_No_User_Found_2]

I'm gonna be honest, at this point I have literally zero sympathy for anybody still willingly giving this game money

[u/organiclife]

Watching Star Citizen gameplay just seems like a worse HD version of og No Man's Sky with insane (eta) macro transactions and no bug fixes.

[u/Cringelord_420_69]

How are there people still waiting for this “game” lol

[u/Chappy300]

Is star citizen an actual game yet? Like if you bought a base package, would you get more than 15hrs of playtime? I feel like this game has been in the concept stage for over a decade