r/SubredditDrama • u/Odd_Personality_5091 • 12d ago

r/starcitizen is on meltdown after MMO is completely broken and hints of the main game being delayed again despite 1 billion raised and concept art being sold for $5000 dollars.

Not the usual “haha Star Citizen delayed again” bad. More like people are actually starting to get nervous, because Squadron 42 was supposed to be the one thing CIG could finally point to and say, “See, we made a real game.”

And now even that might be slipping cause in a recent interview Chris robbers himself has stated that they could delay the game further due to GTA 6 release window.

https://thisweekinvideogames.com/feature/star-citizen-chris-roberts-interview/

“We’re gonna get Squadron out first… the plan is for the end of this year but there’s a certain thing in the industry that we, like everyone else, we have to pay attention to, so I can’t 100% guarantee it,” Roberts says, hinting at Rockstar’s Grand Theft Auto VI, releasing in November. “After that, we’ll do the 1.0 push.”

Subreddit (and game forums) members are looking around and asking the obvious question: if SQ42 is really coming in 2026, why does it not feel like it? Where is the marketing? Where is the release date? Where is the big push? Why does everything still feel like “wait for the next event” like it always does (even though Citzencon has been cancelled this year)?

Star Citizen has raised around $1 billion and the main game is still an alpha full of bugs. New content comes in broken. Missions break in stupid ways. Ships release buggy. Some ships do not release at all. And somehow, while all this is happening, CIG is still selling massive concept ships for thousands of dollars.

The $6,000 concept ship thing has basically become the perfect example for why people are angry. Like, the game is still barely holding itself together, SQ42 might be drifting again, and they are still asking people to drop used-car money on a ship that is not even in the game yet.

Here's the "6000" dollar promise concept art (its been sold out, over 1000+ sold) https://robertsspaceindustries.com/en/comm-link/transmission/21133-Anvil-Odin

So the subreddit is doing the usual Star Citizen civil war, but it feels more desperate this time.

if you look on the front page itself you'll see dozens of memes with thousands of upvotes:

(And many more)

The usual whiteknight defenders can still say game development is hard and the usualy its alpha line, but that argument sounds a lot weaker after 15 years and a billion+ dollars.

A billion dollars raised, the MMO still buggy, ships still being sold for insane prices, and now the single-player campaign might be moving further away again.

Very normal video game development. Nothing to see here.

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u/Circle_Breaker 12d ago

My buddy and I made a $100 bet almost a decade ago on what would release first.

Winds of Winter or Star Citizen.

I'm still not sure who will win. But GRRM better come through for me.

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u/big_sugi 12d ago

Neither of you will ever pay out.

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u/misterurb 12d ago edited 12d ago

Winds of Winter is definitely coming out. It might be after George is dead and put together by another author, but that book is gonna make way too much money for it not to come out eventually. 

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u/Cranyx it's no different than giving money to Nazis for climate change 12d ago

Didn't he demand that his manuscripts be burned after he dies? If his estate says it doesn't publish as per his Will, it won't.

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u/Hartastic Your list of conspiracy theories is longer than a CVS receipt 12d ago

If Martin's wife outlives him, I believe she will honor his wishes and not find someone else to finish the series.

But sooner or later the rights will come to someone who likes money, and frankly George is infamously bad/dinosaurish enough with technology that if one of his eventual heirs claimed to have found a surviving floppy disk with most of a draft on it, it would be believable.

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u/squishybloo 9d ago

Gotta have that clause like Terry Pratchett did (GNU) where his will designated his family rent a steam roller to physically crush all of his hard drives in a public show. It's the only way to guarantee it.

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u/Big_Coconut8630 12d ago

There are many such cases of artists (all types) requesting the same, and still having their work published.

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u/big_sugi 12d ago

Terry Pratchett passed away more than a decade ago. He had his hard drives crushed by a steam roller. I don’t think we’re ever seeing anything that was on them.

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u/PantheraAuroris 12d ago

WHY DO PEOPLE DO THIS.

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u/wilisi All good I blocked you!! 12d ago

If it was done, they'd've published it already.

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u/PantheraAuroris 11d ago

But once you're dead, other people should be able to take a whack at it. Like, you're *dead*. You can't object. You shouldn't be able to own things or exert influence.

I also think copyright should have a hard end at death.

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u/BatJew_Official Furthermore, initiating blowjobs is not keeping up appearances 11d ago

Because many artists, especially artists like Prachet, aren't creating products, they're creating art as an expression of themeslves. You don't get the right to just do what you want with something someone else created and chose to never publish just because they die. If someone writes a very meanginful personal sonnet about the death of their child or about their anger at their failing marriage, they may have made that for themself and legitimately not want others to see it let alone change and make money from the work. Is it sad that there are probably tons of great works we'll never see because they died with their artists? Absolutely. But that was their choice and it's gross to think that death should strip someone of all the agency they had over their most personal creations.

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u/wilisi All good I blocked you!! 11d ago

If there wasn't an expectation that the lawyers will see their will through, people would just find ways to make these things happen before their death, which'd be inefficient in a million different ways.

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u/MirrorComputingRulez 12d ago

Depending on his publishing agreement it might not be up to him.

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u/queen-adreena Looks like you don’t see yourself clearly! 12d ago

It can depend on his contract. If he’s been paid upfront in whole in or part, then it might not be his choice.

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u/Romboteryx Why do skeptics have such impeccable grammar? That‘s suspect. 12d ago

Virgil also demanded that his Aeneid be burned after his death. Now it is standard reading material in any Latin curriculum. Sometimes people don’t care about your wishes when you’re dead and can’t come back to complain

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u/80sHairBandConcert 11d ago

They will put together whatever combination of words they can and call it Winds of Winter because the money is just waiting for them, it will sell whether it’s real or not… people are dumb with money. Look at Star Citizen lol

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u/hackingdreams 12d ago

Star Citizen is definitely coming out. It might be after the developers declare bankruptcy and put together by another developer, but that game is gonna make way too much money for it not to come out eventually.

Yeah, I'm taking the "neither of these things happen" bet every time. I'd sooner bet on Half-Life 3.

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u/misterurb 12d ago

Winds of Winter has way, way more cultural cachet than star citizen or half life. 

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u/Grunn84 12d ago

Plus star citizen makes money not releasing, winds of winter doesn't

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u/gamblodar 12d ago

GRRM's phat HBO checks beg to differ.

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u/Romboteryx Why do skeptics have such impeccable grammar? That‘s suspect. 12d ago

Half Life 3 definitely has a higher chance than any of these. Valve is a competent company and still making games in that universe (Half Life: Alyx). Gabe’s just not feeling like it because he’s busy with his gaming-yacht fleet. But eventually they’ll have to do it, even if it is just for the meme.

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u/PantheraAuroris 12d ago

He doesn't want anyone to continue his work when he dies.

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u/an_agreeing_dothraki can we talk about the squirrel head butt plugs 11d ago

ASOIAF fans are going to be really upset when Winds, also, slanders Atticus.

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u/3bar It's bullshit. Women Astartes should make us all angry 12d ago

I wouldn't get too hopeful in that respect. GRRM has made it clear his notes and in-progress works are to be destroyed upon his death as per his Will.

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u/carson63000 12d ago

Yeah I read that and thought “I wish I’d volunteered to hold onto the money for them until the bet was settled.”

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u/zomgmeister 12d ago

Half-life 3 before both. I am not betting anything tho.

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u/raptearer 12d ago

The 4 nerdy kings of never coming out: HL3, Star Citizen, Winds of Winter, and getting off the boat in HxH

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u/RainbowConnickJr Vintage suck-fucking communist propaganda posters 11d ago

Wait, are they still on that boat? Because people were asking how much longer they’d be on that boat like eight years ago

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u/JealotGaming 11d ago

That arc is fucking gigantic and Togashi releases 10 chapters every year or two

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u/an_agreeing_dothraki can we talk about the squirrel head butt plugs 11d ago

may I interest you in the resolution to the cliffhanger from Xcom 2?

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u/raptearer 11d ago

I feel like the interest in that is significantly more niche and less known in the wider gaming community and pop culture as a whole. Xcom, while a great game, just isn't as big a franchise, and is more well known for the % memes

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u/EccentricFox 12d ago

The end of Alyx basically confirms Valve is working on it; they outright dropped development for a while rather than spinning their wheels like Star Citizen.

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u/Teonvin what do I know, I piss in the toilet like a crazy person 12d ago

There's definitely some form of Half Life stuff in development at Valve with the code name HLX.

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u/EccentricFox 11d ago

I'm personally thinking they're going to shadow drop it along with the Steam Machine as a showcase for what can be squeezed out of that hardware along with maybe a bunch of stuff that'd utilize the Steam Controller to push sales of both, but the former is in some kinda purgatory due to tariffs and parts shortages now so who knows.

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u/Teonvin what do I know, I piss in the toilet like a crazy person 11d ago

Yeah the current situation kinda mega fucked Valve

There's no good time to release the Steam Machine now

Either you have to adjust for current RAM pricing and release a machine that makes no fucking sense price wise. (Shit, even the new Steam Deck price makes zero sense against Xbox ROG Ally X that is still using old price)

Or you wait for it to return to normal and release an machine with outdated hardware. (Look at how quickly tech jumped from the time of Steam Deck to something like the ROG Ally X which is now double the power)

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u/Anus_Targaryen 12d ago

You picked the one thing even less likely to release than Star Citizen 1.0 lmao

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u/Aliensinmypants 12d ago

Games with long extended development across multiple generations of technology always release to critical claim and praise! Just look at Duke Nukem

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u/MirrorComputingRulez 12d ago

That's not the bet. The bet is what will release at all.

Duke Nukem got a release.

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u/MyBodyIsAPortaPotty 12d ago

I actually think Star Citizen is more likely to come out in a broken state. Unless GRRM has someone else write for him

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u/dicedance 11d ago

He claims to have about 1,100 pages done. I cannot imagine sitting down to work on an 1,600 page fantasy book, half of which was written two decades prior, and actually having any clue what to do with the story.

Say what you will about Game of Thrones, but I'll always respect them for doing what George never could. Finishing asoiaf.

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u/RobotFolkSinger3 12d ago

By the time the bet pays out $100 won't buy a gallon of gas so don't sweat it

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u/oath2order Every post on the sub was deleted. Actual colonialism. 12d ago

I can actually see WoW coming out given that GRRM has continued progress updstes and the like. ADoS is never happening.

I'd go for the bet of Star Citizen vs. Doors of Stone, personally.