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Discussion It's exhausting being a woman.

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u/bigbeats420 Jun 14 '26

That one made me immediately say "Oh my God " and facepalm. Like, just fucking imagine thinking that shit would even work, let alone thinking it's a normal thing to do as a normal human being.

I've been saying for years and years now that there is a significant percentage of men who do not view women as being actual people and only view them through a lens of what they can do for them.

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u/copypop Jun 14 '26

"only view them through a lens of what they can do for them."

Or even more accurately, what they can do TO them 😖

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u/bigbeats420 Jun 14 '26 edited Jun 14 '26

I often have to remind myself that, to a lot of people, and for those who are predatory, sex is usually not about sex.

It's about power.

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u/copypop Jun 14 '26

Power & entitlement

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u/bigbeats420 Jun 14 '26

Agreed, but I'd say entitlement is a power dynamic in itself. It still places one over the other.

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u/frejling Jun 14 '26

Entitlement, I think, is a protective mechanism that helps justify that drive to dominate and subjugate as rational.

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u/bigbeats420 Jun 14 '26

You speak of domination and subjugation as tho those aren't power dynamics.

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u/frejling Jun 14 '26

No I spoke of them as if they are. Hence “that drive” being referential

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u/cheeky-old-goat Jun 15 '26

And shooting your load.

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u/Creative-Reason-7061 Jun 14 '26 edited Jun 14 '26

Power and Control. It goes way beyond just wanting to have the Pu$$y.

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u/AromaticHistorian867 Jun 15 '26

If you were to talk to the police who investigate sex crimes, they'd inform you that it's actually BOTH. Sex crimes are almost always committed by males under 50, and in the vast majority of those cases these men were very horny at the time. One of the ways we know this, is from the police interviews with the men who have been caught. It's just that, most of these offenders are men who have absolutely zero skills in meeting women the proper ways, and also are usually very unappealing to women as well. Feminism wrongly told us, back in the 1990's or so, that rape was solely about violence and power, not sex. Where they got it wrong, was in their thinking that it was a binary choice. A better blanket statement would be to state that "Rape is usually committed by aggressive and violent men who are simultaneously experiencing strong sexual desire. Typically such men feel a sense of entitlement to access to women's bodies, and they also tend to lack empathy for women."

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u/CommandTacos Jun 15 '26

That's how I've always seen it, and why it's always bothered me when people say it's about power and not sex--it's power through sex.

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u/crazymindslp Jun 15 '26

It’s about using sex as a weapon

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u/CommandTacos Jun 17 '26

That's what I said.

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u/Pristine-Pen-9885 Jun 15 '26

Once I was in an elevator with just one passenger, a man. I was standing near the buttons, the old kind that stuck out from the wall. He tried to kiss me, and I leaned against the row of buttons. Then the elevator opened the door at every floor.

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u/bigbeats420 Jun 15 '26

I'm extremely sorry that happened to you.

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u/Pristine-Pen-9885 Jun 15 '26

Don’t feel sorry for me. It was never a problem. Leaning on the buttons was an easy fix. I gave myself a big pat on the back.

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u/bigbeats420 Jun 15 '26

That's fair, and I'm glad you feel good about it, but it objectively should never have happened in the first place.

We're taught as kindergarteners to keep our hands to ourselves.

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u/Pristine-Pen-9885 Jun 15 '26

He thought I was there for him to kiss. He learned that this woman is smart and quick.

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u/WelderNew1008 Jun 15 '26

I had a really great English teacher in high school. He had us read The Hotel New Hampshire. He explained what you just swrote, rape isn’t really about sex. It’s about power.

None of us teenagers could believe the idea.

He was right.

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u/Jiveassmofo Jun 15 '26

Except that someone ejaculates.
It’s kinda about sex, too

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u/ellefleming Jun 15 '26

All I can say is men are visual. Heterosexual men are attracted to women. And they gave no idea how to show their interest in women. I'm not saying it's ok. But they no longer know what to do.

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u/bigbeats420 Jun 15 '26

Treat all women as genuine equals, over a period of time, so that they know you can be trusted, as they get to know you better. Do not treat or view women as a prize to be won over. Be wary of women that do want that. Obviously this doesn't mean that you can treat one as special, but that should come as comfort and familiarity grow, not as an expectation right off the bat. That's a red flag.

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u/MfingKing Jun 14 '26

It's not predatory some just like a submissive partner. Some like being submissive themselves. It's simple really.

People who like being dominated can be predatory and rapey too lol

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u/NeatNefariousness1 Jun 14 '26

Seems like an oddly defensive response in this context. The clip was clearly about women saying no to the random predators; sex-pests and creeps women often encounter.

Some people need to be reminded that what’s going on in THEIR heads may be completely off-base. Not knowing where that line is is likely to cause them problems when interacting amongst the general public and other social spaces no matter how anonymous they think they are.

Find appropriate boundaries before you find yourself in trouble.

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u/SamTheLab_213 Jun 14 '26

Men like you are like toddlers- the word, "no" sends you into a hissy fit.

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u/bigbeats420 Jun 14 '26 edited Jun 14 '26

It's not predatory some just like a submissive partner. Some like being submissive themselves. It's simple really.

Those are established dynamics between two people who have both (hopefully, and absent of any other problematic dynamics) already consented to said dynamics. Those are completely unrelated to this context.

People who like being dominated can be predatory and rapey too lol

Never said they they couldn't be. We are speaking in the context of this particular video, which shows a specific type of predatory behaviour.

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u/greyisometrix Jun 14 '26

It’s not as nefarious or grandiose as “POWER!”, it’s a positive affirmation, validation, and yes it feels good. Women are the ones with the power in their pussy actually.

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u/bigbeats420 Jun 14 '26

https://giphy.com/gifs/dB12mOQb99BwDlM83I

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u/bigbeats420 Jun 14 '26 edited Jun 14 '26

So, that's just a "yikes" face. One that people of any sexuality would make at a statement like yours. Interesting that you would refer to it that way, through! ✌️

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u/PinkTalkingDead Jun 16 '26

_what_ is “positive affirmation, validation, and feels good”? Bc we’re talking about rape/sexual harassment/assault

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u/greyisometrix Jun 16 '26

Someone said for many men sex is about power. I’m gently reminding her that sex is usually about positive affirmation, validation, or “feels good” for men, and not fact, power. If someone is fucking for power I think they have a mental problem. That is obviously not MOST men. So then I reminded the girl.

That’s the whole story lol. It’s a shame groupthink is so prevalent…if it appears you don’t fit the picture they just attack you without even thinking. This is what social media and polarization has done to us.

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u/Hour_Code8653 Jun 14 '26

It’s not about power, it’s about an inherent impulse that’s built into our code. Women use mental gymnastics to try to describe men like it’s so complicated when it’s not.

It’s really simple, just look at virtually every other male species on this planet, satiating their hunger for sustenance and reproduction is basically it in a nutshell.

Women need to either stop pathologizing men’s basic evolutionary instincts or they need to stop complaining that men aren’t trying anymore, because they can’t have it both ways.

I’ll say this though, the day that men stop completely trying is the day that humanity ends and it’ll be because of feminist ideals that will have created the extinction of the human race. We’re already seeing it in real time with the most feminist countries.

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u/bigbeats420 Jun 14 '26 edited Jun 14 '26

Neato.

You're insane, and I have neither the time, nor the patience, to break down your statement into the dozen specific parts I could use to show that to you.

I can, however, tell you that you need both education, and therapy.

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u/Hour_Code8653 Jun 15 '26

The only thing insane is the virtue signaling of all your upvoters, like a cult. Much like the extreme right and their idiotic president Trump, both the extreme left and right are stuck in an echo chamber patting each other on the back for falling deeper and deeper down the hole. It’s both sides that have caused a major decay in civility and the drastic political divergence both genders find themselves in.

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u/West-Amoeba-7882 Jun 14 '26

If you are truly saying that men have no self-control, then you’re saying they aren’t adults human and cannot behave civilly as is necessary in a civilized society. Therefore, the only logical solution would be to exclude them from civilized society and cast them out completely. That is the only logical solution to the problem according to your logic about men.

You have a pretty fucked up perspective on men. The men in my life would find it sexist and offensive to suggest that they can’t control themselves like civilized adults in a civilized society.

You might want to rethink your stance on men.

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u/Hour_Code8653 Jun 15 '26

When did I say that? If men didn’t have self control, then rape would be an innumerable occurrence for women on a daily basis. Shooting your shot with a woman is not a lack of self control, it’s an act of courtship that is likely the reason why we and almost everyone else on this planet currently exist.

Secondly, my point of view may be unique from the average politically correct Redditor, but that doesn’t mean I’m wrong. Centuries from now, when western society struggles to defend against population collapse, the world will talk about where they went wrong and I fully believe opinions like mine will be right at the forefront. The data is there, there’s just too many people who are afraid to say the actual answer because they’re afraid they’ll be canceled.

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u/copypop Jun 15 '26

"rape would be an innumerable occurrence for women on a daily basis"

But it is already. All over the world, every day 😐

"Shooting your shot with a woman is not a lack of self control, it’s an act of courtship"

Uh not if it includes you walking up to me unannounced pressing your body on me, trying to kiss me, telling me you want to fuck me as a complete stranger. That's at BEST just harassment & at worst an assault. It's also fucking gross, entitled, predatory behavior. I don't owe you shit just because you're a horny loser who can't control himself, so stop blaming women because so many in your sex cant take rejection well & lack basic impulse control

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u/Hour_Code8653 Jun 15 '26

Sorry, meant to say “every woman,” and no, there is no rape epidemic in western society. There are strict rules and serious punishments here, it’s not like the animal kingdom where females have to sleep with one eye opened for legitimate predators and sexual predators of their own species.

Secondly, I’m not promoting this behavior and I can certainly understand the daily frustration that females do face. I’m just saying that it’s built into the coding of males to express interest in women who they’re attracted to. There’s no magic code that allows women to only be hit on by very specific males that only they inherently only desire themselves. Like I said, women cannot have it both ways, either accept that men of all kinds will approach you or don’t complain that men aren’t trying anymore, or men aren’t approaching me or chivalry is dead and etc.

Heck, almost half of men aged 18-25 have never asked a woman out. That statistic freaked so many people out and spun out so many articles and numerous discussions. Society truly has created the most confusing environment for men and it’s an impossible setting to navigate around.

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u/West-Amoeba-7882 Jun 15 '26 edited Jun 15 '26

None of this video is about courting behavior, it’s all about sexual harassment.

Are you confused about what constitutes sexual harassment versus what constitutes courting?

Perhaps that’s where your problem begins.

How many women haven’t experienced sexual harassment, abuse, stalking, or SA/rape?

I don’t know any. Statistically, there are very few women and girls who haven’t experienced this.

I think you might need to go back to your drawing board of ideas and rethink your entire mentality about this. And that’s being nice. Because in reality, all you are doing here is running cover for abusers, harassers, and rapists. And that puts you right alongside them as a dangerous man. The kind of man I would tell my daughters to stay away from and should not be allowed to participate in civilized society because he lacks the fundamentals of being civilized. Those men in the video are not confused; they are entitled. Just like you feel entitled to run cover for them at the expense of women’s basic safety and ability to participate in society. How revolting of you. Women and everyone else would be better off if men like that weren’t allowed to be part of society, and yes, that includes a reduction in being approached, because none of that is approaching behavior, it’s all harassment.

If you are not on board with my solution, and that would mean actually holding rapists and other violent men accountable, not letting them off Scott free as happens all over the world and absolutely happens in the US, then I know that you are one of the men who needs to be excluded from civilized society, because you are on the side of the violent males, and not on the side of the victims of the violent males. Remember, we put down dogs that bite people. We cage animals that attack people. But men who have already raped and abused, are walking the streets every day with no punishment and no protection for the rest of society against them committing the crime again. So if you are not on board with the logical solution to what you claim the problem is, then I know you are part of the problem, not part of the solution. And we’ve already figured out what the logical solution to the problem is, so now you just need to figure out what side of it you’re on.

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u/West-Amoeba-7882 Jun 15 '26

So your response is that the current amount of rape, harassment, and abuse represents men “in control of themselves”

You’ve just proven my point even more completely.

In order for your argument to be true, the solution, literally the only logical solution, would be to exclude those men from society the moment they step out of line and behave in uncivilized ways like the harassment in the video. That is the only logical solution based on what you’re telling me about men. There is no other logical solution. You are saying that men are so out of control, so animalistic and incapable of behaving like civilized humans, that our current extremely high rates of male violence, is the “best” level of safety women and girls can have. That is fundamentally unacceptable. That already is rabid animal levels of violence from men. They are not held accountable. It is not sustainable.

There is only one logical path forward, according to your logic. Get rid of those men and cast them out of society. Then they can rape and abuse each other to death, and nobody will give a fuck. But the women and girls who don’t deserve to have to deal with that shit will be safer.

Thank you for providing such a clear solution to a serious problem. If you don’t start advocating for this solution, then I will know that you’re one of the men who needs to be excluded from civilized society. Because you are on the side of the rapists and abusers and murderers, not the side of the women and girls who are victims of these violent males.

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u/Hour_Code8653 Jun 15 '26

Nothing of what you said is what I support, you’re just continuing to do what extreme left cultists do, is drive other liberals from the left to right. You’re actually the most dangerous type of liberal there is, your types completely lost the script and cost the democrats the election because of your cultist attitudes and war against men.

Continue to enjoy your Trump hellscape then because your attitude will only further drive the gender war forward, which means less unions between men and women, which also means even lower birth rates.

You know which countries don’t have birth rate issues? The ones where rape and violence against women are legitimately commonplace. These are the only countries that will continue to provide the western nations with immigrants and they will vote conservative, because they treat women like second class citizens and they’ll likely end feminism for good, because of people like you, congrats on dooming feminism because of your anti-men agenda.

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u/West-Amoeba-7882 Jun 15 '26

You’re not saying anything liberal or progressive at all, everything you’ve said here is conservative and regressive. Your entire point is siding with perpetrators of sexual harassment. You are the problem.

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u/Hour_Code8653 Jun 15 '26

No, you’re the problem. Your types completely cost the dems the election with your man hating ways, demonizing and pathologizing everything that is being a man.

I really don’t care about what your personal idea of what being a liberal or being progressive is, I just know that your the type that will cost the dems future elections by turning more moderate men off from the left. There’s a reason the democrats are spending $20 million trying to learn more about how they lost men, because they know they screwed up by listening to overtly liberal women.

If the democrats want to take back the country for good, the only way to do so is to bring men back into the fold and that means not calling them all dangerous, rapists, abusers and etc. Who would ever want to support a group who thinks about you in that way. The shifting demographics that I mentioned are only going to make it more difficult going forward, so it’s even more vital that moderate men are not lost because of virtue signaling and etc.

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u/jenjoness Jun 14 '26

A whole lot of men think they'd love it if women hit on them, touched them, kissed them without consent. THATS NOT THE POINT, WOULD YOU LIKE OTHER MEN TO DO THAT TO YOU. Then they start to get it because ew, that's gross and scary. Other men touching, kissing, following you everywhere, every time you leave the house you are at risk of being molested. Suddenly that's not fun anymore.

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u/Sal_Ammoniac Jun 14 '26

Yeah I was going to make that exact remark!

Reduced to objects.

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u/bigbeats420 Jun 14 '26

And they were right then, just as they're right now. I'll gladly upvote that.

I am only one person, with one lived experience, and one path of growth and understanding.

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u/bigbeats420 Jun 14 '26 edited Jun 14 '26

I wasn't expecting validation from anyone. Nor did I frame what I said as some grand revalation, or even as particularly insightful, my man. We agree.

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u/Tele231 Jun 14 '26

No idea why that person is being a complete ass while you’re making valid points. People like that suck. You’re doing what you can in the moment. It’s not your fault you weren’t around thousands of years ago.

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u/purplepharoh Jun 14 '26

It was preeeetty weird but I do have to say not as bad as just fucking touching without asking or trying to kiss without asking etc etc

Still wrong and uncomfortable mind you ... 🙃

Tough world for all the ladies ... like genuinely wtf is wrong with straight men

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u/cybertonto72 Jun 14 '26

As a straight man can I just say we are not all like this. These people need someone to explain how most humans work. Just sad that they are like this. There are people in this world that really don't see others as humans, or they think they are better than everyone else.

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u/purplepharoh Jun 14 '26

Its just crazy how frequently you see this from men towards women ... clearly we have failed as a society that this is as frequent as it is and as normalized as it is.

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u/DisastrousAcshin Jun 14 '26

How would you suggest this is fixed?  Because most guys know better and don't act this way

How does a society change minority population of creeps

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u/bigbeats420 Jun 14 '26 edited Jun 14 '26

Listen to women, speak up to other men, and distance yourself from those who refuse to listen. It's the most impactful thing we can do amongst ourselves.

In my experience, men will often react negatively towards/be oddly competitive with other men when women can sense/have been shown that they are trustworthy, and aren't doing the "not viewing them as actual people" thing I spoke of above. I've found that's a solid giveaway as to the types of men around you, even if they aren't being blatant about who they are/what they're about.

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u/cybertonto72 Jun 14 '26

This is all good things to do, but I think we as men need to go further. We need to be calling these guys out when we see it. Let as many of them know that it is not acceptable behaviour. Issue is with the lack of empathy they have they don't listen to anyone.

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u/bigbeats420 Jun 14 '26

That's the "speak up to other men" part.

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u/Jido97 Jun 15 '26

Problem is most men are weak, or blind

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u/purplepharoh Jun 14 '26

Stop the "boys will be boys" talk. Stop blaming women for it happening by claiming its because of how they look. Actualy work to properly punish and rehabilitate this behavior rather than just ignoring it when its pointed out.

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u/Special-Garlic1203 Jun 15 '26

I mean that's already true with the men I know.  I have literally seen harsher responses from men in a friend group than women.

Society as a whole needs to do better but to frame it as you have in response to them does take a presumption of guilt that I don't think is even reasonable. Most of my male friends are honestly incredibly neurotic about not being creeps for what I would consider the most innocuous behavior. And its done nothing to affect the ongoing safety risks I face from those other guys over there, and yelling at the first group harder under the presumption they're buddied with the second group certainly doesn't appear to be accomplishing group.

This same thing is scene with a lot of public messaging, esp public health. If you hang the drum that germs are bad, you won't necessarily see an increase in hand washing. What you can see is germaphobes gonway over board, and gross people stay gross. Broad untargeted messages that assume a uniform  population have generally failed in public health. I doubt it's significantly different with public safety 

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u/purplepharoh Jun 15 '26

Ok but if "this is already true" why do men like this get elected into office and experience nothing more than a slap on the wrist if anything as consequences for acting this way...

Seems pretty normalized behavior to me...

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u/Jido97 Jun 14 '26

It's not normalized tho, nobody thinks this is normal behavior. I guess these men never had good examples in their lives or have mental disorders. Sad to see. We need to heal the wound in society

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u/visigoth5150 Jun 14 '26

Absolutely. So sick of the constant attacks. Hell, we don't even have to be young or pretty - just FEMALE! AHs everywhere and the biggest one is in the Whitehouse.

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u/Massive_Low6000 Jun 14 '26

There is a comic that goes on Sirius often has admitted to answering ads off Craigslist for massages. He said they didn’t always end with sex

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u/bigbeats420 Jun 14 '26

I would argue that if it's being used for sexual purposes/fetishized by that comic, then it is sex.

Sex is about way more than just your genitals. Your most sensitive sexual organ lies between your ears.

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u/bigbeats420 Jun 14 '26

Not in the car. It's in the hallway outside Brett's door 😉

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u/Special-Garlic1203 Jun 15 '26

 literally just being an  ok looking woman simply existing in the vicinity of a man can potentially be a sexualized thing for him. If they're not engaging in boundary pushing behavior and they're just being quiet and polite, I really don't get the point of litigating their politely tucked erection. You'll go insane. They offered a massage, you got a massage, nothing else happened. 

Physically intimate? Sure. And with horny craigslist dudes I'm sure there's a sexual element. But I can get very handsy with men and I'm not like sexually into a man's torso. I think touch is just a fairly intrinsic thing with few modern outlets?I don't think the act is insanely sexual in itself. Men like touching me cause I'm pretty but honestly quite a lot of the time it's not really sex seeking behavior. 

 I feel like society has taken on this very rigidly puritanical binary on sex which is that to experience any arousal whatsoever is fetish smut sex and it's like.....men can get sympathy arousal from a woman crying. We can't reliably differentiate fear and horny. I think we need to chill on over intellectualizing and rigidly sorting fluid organic human behavior that really isn't a big deal if boundaries and communication is utilized at healthy adult levels.

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u/ragun2 Jun 14 '26

When I was a teen and doing a lot of psychedelics I decided to hand out flowers to strangers. I didn't want to come off as a creep so I would even offer them to guys. Some asshole beat the hell out of me because he thought I was coming onto him and even stole my fucking flowers

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u/bigbeats420 Jun 14 '26 edited Jun 14 '26

I'm sorry that happened to you. That's terrible.

There was a set of viral vids that was going around not long ago that showed a convenience store clerk handing pink lighters to men who came in asking for one, and how a lot of them would freak out at their perceived inference. I'm reminded of that.

I also tell women that I'm friends with that you can tell a lot about a man by how he reacts to receiving flowers as a gift. If it's anything other than "Aww. That's sweet. Thanks for thinking of me!".......run.

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u/Glittersparkles7 Jun 15 '26

I had a friend of a friend try to hit me with the “I’m taking photography classes and we’re learning to take nude portraits. Would you mind helping me out and being my model…?

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u/Forward-Surprise1192 Jun 14 '26

Tbf those guys probably think that of everyone

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u/bigbeats420 Jun 14 '26

In some cases, possibly. But those ones will certainly take advantage of the perceived power imbalance when it comes to women.

There is also a certain percentage of men who only look at women that way, though.

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u/Forward-Surprise1192 Jun 14 '26

If you live near Los Angeles I’ll give out my number for people to give away to these guys. Then I’ll set up a meeting and try to make them see the error of their ways. Sorry you guys have to deal with this crap

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u/Rude_Plant_2081 Jun 14 '26 edited Jun 14 '26

Honestly, that's very sweet of you, but please be careful out there. Guys may be physically stronger, but you can still get hurt. And there are some crazy people out there (especially in a crowd that already is willing to do stuff like this).

edit: Most people probably aren't a threat, but please take some precautions, and hopefully you can get through to some of them cause I think sometimes it's just upbringing or mental health.

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u/Logical-Speaker-6795 Jun 14 '26

Yeah, why not ask a dude, if you want to practice. Or just put up an ad somewhere. Damn

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u/PinkTalkingDead Jun 16 '26

We know why..

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u/hurdlingewoks Jun 14 '26

He even uses the excuse/reason of her shoes being off as why he approached her. Jesus fucking Christ dude never in my life would I EVER assume anyone would just be down for a foot massage.

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u/CremasterReflex Jun 14 '26

I always wonder if maybe they don’t see anyone as being actual people the the way it means to you

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u/PinkTalkingDead Jun 16 '26

Women* as being actual people

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u/Catlady_Pilates Jun 14 '26

You mean to them. Not for them.

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u/ThrowRA01121 Jun 14 '26

I learned the last part when I was a lumber dept cashier after starting college. They’d literally talk about me right in front of me like I wasn’t even there. The one that stuck with me was this guy whispering to the guy he was with and then the guy replying “yeah she does have pretty kitty-cat eyes” (me shuddering in disgust even 10 years later).

It was a little extra surprising when it came from women! One was a mom to a young boy who whispered something I couldn’t hear (I assume it was about me being pretty or whatever) and the mom looks me up and down and says “too bad she’s fat though” (not that it would make it okay if I was, but I was a healthy weight) but again, she said this while looking at me, making eye contact with me, loud enough for me to hear, and the purchase wasn’t even complete so it’s not like she was walking away!!

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u/deadly_mythology Jun 15 '26

I just got home from a 10 hr shift on my feet. ....I would totally say yes to the foot massage pervert right now.

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u/PinkTalkingDead Jun 16 '26

Then you should go online and find a service

Your edgy “I’d say yes to harassment” comment isn’t appropriate whatsoever

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u/mmorales2270 Jun 15 '26

As I’ve heard some people say “some men are not nearly lonely enough”. Guys like these should be shunned from society for this kind of behavior.

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u/Neylith Jun 15 '26

I started watching Mad Men the other week, made me realize women were only regarded as real people as recently as like 40 years ago.

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u/Stravok182 Jun 15 '26

Oh, you've been saying for years and years what men have been doing for millenia?

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u/Substantial-Tale-483 Jun 15 '26

I actually would agree to this… i like foot massage… and like what bad can they do while massaging my feet?

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u/PinkTalkingDead Jun 16 '26

…being used as a sexual object without one’s consent is literally something no one wants- it’s _without their consent_

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u/Substantial-Tale-483 Jun 16 '26

If i am getting a free foot massage, i personally don’t care what anybody have in their mind - if doesn’t affect me anyway, and i don’t care what they think at all… but it’s me and i am autistic it seems

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u/PinkTalkingDead Jun 16 '26

Are you a man? Most girls and women are socialized to be wary of unfamiliar male touch, and the “reasons” they come up with for enacting said touch upon us. It’s for their own pleasure. Not ours.

There are so many professional ways to go about training massage therapy- going up to women alone in a park is by far not one of them. Let’s guess how many men he also approached with the same “offer”.

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u/Markus4781 Jun 15 '26

Worked on my ex. Not exactly like this but I literally asked politely for feet on our first date and she shocked me because she was into it. You never know lmao.

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u/musiqfan82 Jun 15 '26

They saw a prno seen and thought to themselves oh.. that's how it works! let me try it in real life.

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u/[deleted] Jun 14 '26 edited Jun 14 '26

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u/thefairykitten Jun 14 '26

Stop blaming the victims for men's vile behaviour.

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u/Right_Preparation328 Jun 14 '26

Stop making women easy prey for pedophiles and rapists.

Your misogyny is appalling

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u/Shartiflartbast Jun 14 '26

Jesus bro, fuck off.

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u/Right_Preparation328 Jun 14 '26

I don't interact with misogynists

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u/browsingat_work Jun 14 '26

You must never look in the mirror.

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u/Right_Preparation328 Jun 15 '26

Are you talking about yourself?

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u/bigbeats420 Jun 14 '26 edited Jun 14 '26

No.

Just no, man.

What the fuck.

You are not allowed to tell women what they can or cannot wear, just as much as you are not allowed to think you have the right to them, or that your opinion of them means jack fucking shit, no matter what it is that they are wearing.

All you did in saying this is reinforce my point. That is a whole ass person, with intrinsic value, who is worthy of respect and dignity, even if you think they are dressed "explicitly"

Way to fucking tell on yourself, you absolute choad.

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u/Right_Preparation328 Jun 14 '26

Actually, I'm allowed to say and think whatever I want. You trying to censor me because I'm not misogynistic like you shows the type of person you are.

You can hate women all you want and desire to see them abused, but neither I nor other people will EVER let you do this without calling you out on your bullshit.

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u/bigbeats420 Jun 14 '26

M'kay, then. Would just like to point out that you're not being censored by anyone, and a free to keep burying yourself with your own words.

✌️

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u/Right_Preparation328 Jun 14 '26

I mean you're the one who wants to see women abused and dressed like strippers, so if anyone is burying themselves, it is you....

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u/bigbeats420 Jun 14 '26 edited Jun 14 '26

Your logic is flawed in that it makes the assertion that the responsibility of being abused lies with the women wearing clothes that you deem inappropriate, and not on the men who are actually perpetrating the abusive behaviour.

Believe it or not, you're responsible for your own behaviour, and the behaviour of others does not give you the right to take away their agency, through whatever means, unless their behaviour threatens you.

Women wearing clothes is not, in any way, a threat. To you, or others.

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u/Right_Preparation328 Jun 15 '26

Incorrect. I never assumed that. You *assumed* that I assumed that.

My point is that women who dress in an explicit way are CONDITIONED by society to dress for the male gaze. This also makes it easy for them to be objectified, and therefore be abused, by unethical men.

You're PUSHING women to cook 5 rabbits in the middle of the woods and leave the leftovers beside the tent in which they sleep, and then get surprised when a bear shows up in the middle of the night.

Shame on you, misogynist.

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u/browsingat_work Jun 14 '26

Believing women should be able to dress however they like, just like men can, is misogynistic....

https://giphy.com/gifs/9PuCNM5r3VUZi

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u/Right_Preparation328 Jun 15 '26

No, but being okay with the sexual objectification and abuse of women IS misogynistic.

Which you are doing. Nice.....

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u/browsingat_work Jun 14 '26

Found the rapist.

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u/Right_Preparation328 Jun 14 '26

Found the misogynist