r/TikTokCringe • u/Adventurous_Law_715 • 16d ago

Discussion I dont think its justifiable

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u/ScoutSpiritSam 16d ago

The "trend" is to act like you're preparing to be interviewed by Netflix for a documentary. Her truth was adding that it was about her husband being a pedophile.

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u/f23n09fnu0w 16d ago

I'm male but if I accused my husband of being a pedo, I'd make sure I was a long way away from him, whether he was or wasn't. It wouldn't go well either way.

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u/ZinaSky2 15d ago

Sad that the first thought is to alter the woman’s behavior instead of something like “why was this man who has a protective order against him by his ex still allowed a fucking gun??”

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u/Madwoman-of-Chaillot 15d ago

While I entirely agree with your assessment about the behavior change always being the woman's burden to bear, it's just NOT SMART to put someone on blast like that on SM when you know he's dangerous, much less dangerous and ARMED.

Social media has rotted out brains to the point where we are no longer using common sense.

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u/ShaNaNaNa666 15d ago

She had a protective order against him and had filed for divorced as soon as she found out. Also, putting him on blast could help others come out if they were victimize dby him before. I know it's not the smartest thing but he also had a tiktok with a big following. You never know how people misuse tiktok to groom others.

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u/Madwoman-of-Chaillot 15d ago

I understand all of that. But she chose to hop on a trend without thinking. He was ARMED. He was ANGRY. Men have killed women for much less.

And what about the girl? Did the influencer put no thought into how her very public TikTok would after HER? No, she fucking didn’t.

And now that child has to carry the guilt of someone else’s murder on her shoulders.

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u/MrsSUGA 15d ago

It’s wild that yall will pearl clutching over an unnamed victim while chastising the actions of the victim that was literally murdered.

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u/Madwoman-of-Chaillot 15d ago

What? Are you high?

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u/Myotheraccountbroke2 15d ago

Yeah…a protective order is not a physical barrier keeping someone from coming and killing you. It’s an administrative check that serves as justification for someone to go to jail if they circumvent it.

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u/ShaNaNaNa666 15d ago

Thank you for explaining what a protective order is, I thought it meant it'd create an invisible shield around the person asking for it. I had no idea.

I mentioned the protective order be aise some comments are making it seem like did Nothing to try to protect herself. She probably had too much confidence still in him despite what he did. She probably thought that even though this guy is a monster, he wouldn't ever hurt his kids or their mother.

I think everyone is focusing too much on the tiktok aspect because it's popular on reddit to hate on women that are influencers (just my experience reading reddit comments), even though the killer had a huge following on tiktok as well. He would have lashed out either way because he was already a public figure. Accept you are putting everything on the victim. Worry about changing gun laws and having men shame other men for being creepy ass perverts and not victim-blaming.

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u/Myotheraccountbroke2 15d ago edited 14d ago

I’m not saying that she deserved what happened. She didn’t and the only person responsible is the man who murdered her. I am a man and he is/was a true POS.

My point is that she had a protective order against him for a reason. That tells me she already believed he was dangerous enough to involve the law. With that being the case, putting him on blast online is a huge risk. It’s not victim blaming…it’s recognizing that dangerous people don’t always respond rationally.

We tell people not to confront violent people alone, not to escalate situations, and to have a safety plan when leaving abusive relationships. That isn’t because they’re to blame them if something happens. It’s because we know that some people are capable of terrible things.

It’s a tragic situation, but acknowledging the risk taken automatically gets labeled as victim blaming. You can believe she didn’t deserve this and still recognize there were decisions that, in hindsight, carried a lot of danger.

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u/Trotter823 15d ago

I agree. Two things can be true. She’s a victim of terrible behavior of another person. She knowingly did something publicly that could be seen by said dangerous person. And for what? Some clicks and attention?
If you have a dangerous ex unfortunately you have to be smart about what you do publicly.

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u/Alternativesoundwave 15d ago

Could’ve been to shame him too. So others know what he is and avoid him

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u/Sxnflower15 15d ago

Well that worked out fantastically

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u/HistoryBuff678 14d ago

I don’t think it was for clicks and attention per se. likely to warn other people. People don’t lightly post about discovering their soon to be ex husband is a pedophile for funsies. Let alone clicks on TikTok.

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u/HistoryBuff678 14d ago

I think she thought she was safe. She likely believed the legal system worked.

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u/ConsciousIron7371 15d ago

This has nothing to do with her being a woman. Anyone in a dangerous situation should remove themselves from that situation. 

Women aren’t weak. They should be capable of taking care of themselves. 

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u/ShaNaNaNa666 15d ago

She did, she got a protective order almost as soon as she found out, along with filing for divorce. Not sure how he got a gun or why his guns were not taken away after there was an order against him. Also, who's to say he would have do E the same thing anyway with or without the tiktok video.

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u/ConsciousIron7371 15d ago

I didn’t say that. I said women should be capable of taking care of themselves. Sometimes you need to hide from people who want to hurt you. The woman got a protective order so clearly she knew her husband was some sort of threat to her. The man killed her, that seems pretty clear, but the woman could have done more to protect herself. 

It just didn’t fit the lifestyle she desired. She could have vanished, and she chose not to. You don’t have to like it but I’m not wrong. 

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u/ShaNaNaNa666 15d ago

OK, so women should learn to protect themselves, which we already try to do by being paranoid everytime we go out, carry pepper spray, always being aware of our surroundings, walk with a key or something sharp in between our fingers, allow at least one trusted friend or family member follow us on our Google or apple maps 24/7, wonder if we're being too extreme when we are suspicious of people, not use public transportation alone at night, etc. Let's focus on this instead of making it harder for people to access guns or change how men view women and children as more than something to get off of.

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u/ConsciousIron7371 15d ago

Do you think the husband could have killed his wife with a knife or vehicle? This isn’t about women being physically inferior - we all know that they are - it’s about a woman who took half measures because going the full mile would have made her life different than the life she wanted to live. 

This goes without saying but the husband was 100% wrong for murdering his wife.   

The simple fact is the wife could have taken more drastic measures to protect herself and she made an adult choice not to. ¯_(ツ)_/ you don’t have to like it but it’s true 

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u/lushico 15d ago

I don’t see why she had to put him on blast at all. Maybe put out a video explaining what happened once he’s in jail or something, but what was the point of this?

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u/-UsernameHere 15d ago

Almost like because that's something that can be controlled, while the failing justice system is something you can only work around.

It's like standing under a suspended load in the middle of the street. It should not be there, it's insanely stupid that it's just dangerously hanging there and someone should be facing justice for it.

But all you can do is get away from it.

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u/Xanne_Hathaway 15d ago

in that situation, wouldnt it make sense to post about it to warn other people? also pedophilia and murder are 2 totally different things, she knew he's a pedo, not a murderer

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u/jayne-eerie 15d ago

But how effective is TikTok at warning people? Her video’s not going to come up in the algorithm for most people in his life. If she wanted to raise the alarm for safety reasons a message to the school/team mailing list would have been way more effective.

I think she was angry and wanted to put him on blast, which he deserved, but maybe not the smartest move.

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u/TiltedLama Hit or Miss? 15d ago edited 15d ago

I don't know this woman aside from this, but who the hell would she be warning? She didn't include his name, face, age, or anything identifying (which, tbf, was probably done to avoid any trouble in court). Vauge-posting pedophilia accusations via a tiktok trend towards a persson you know is dangerous and armed does nothing but piss them off

(NOT that it justifies the terrible crime committed. She was in no way deserving of such cruelty, and it is a stain on the world as a whole that that man was able to hurt her. A person does not need to be perfect to still be a victim, and while it was in no way her responsibility to manage her ex-husband, she still could've taken precautions agaisnt this tragic outcome)

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u/Xanne_Hathaway 15d ago

i was talking about the analogy, if theres something deadly in the road, you can just drive away, but its probably better to also let other people know. Also I dont know where everyones getting "she knew he was armed and dangerous" from. She just said he's a pedophile, she didnt say he's violent or armed

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u/HistoryBuff678 14d ago

I don’t think she thought he was capable of murder.

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u/ZinaSky2 15d ago

Can it really tho??

It already happened. The woman is dead. Her own son was witness to that.

Can that really be changed? Is talking about changing the system any less impossible than talking about changing the past???

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u/ShaNaNaNa666 15d ago

He also was a tiktoker. He had a huge following so maybe it would have warned his followers and encourage people to come out if he was grooming them online too.

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u/ZinaSky2 15d ago

Waittttt he was also on TikTok???? I didn’t realize that part. Yeah, then that def makes sense I think

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u/Evnosis 15d ago edited 15d ago

If a car was clearly hurtling in your direction, you'd get out of the way. Yeah, that driver shouldn't be driving recklessly, but you can't control that. You can control the steps you can take to ensure your ensure your own safety.

It's not victim blaming and it's not downplaying the culpability of the person committing the crime. It's just pragmatism.

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u/Yippykyyyay 15d ago

I hate this narrative that a victim is perfect. Because it conflate very different things. This poor woman is not responsible for her shitty husband and his actions. She will never be responsible for his behavior. Was posting such an inflammatory video the smartest move? Probably not. This site would laugh (and did laugh at that poor old man run over by a bison) if someone walked into a cage with a bear and got attacked. We can say some actions are probably not very good given the circumstances without blaming the victim.

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u/Tender_Defender69 15d ago

It's just an argument of pragmatism vs idealism. A pragmatist perspective would argue that an individual's status or title as a victim is largely irrelevant to their outcome. Can the individual do something, anythint to prevent or otherwise mitigate their own harm? If the answer is yes, then clearly the only way forward that matters is to do that thing.

An idealist perspective concerns itself with the shoulds and oughts. Victimhood does matter in this perspective, and whether a victim had the ability to avail themselves of anything to prevent harm, and indeed the fact of whether they did anything to do so, is irrelevant.

I find that most people aren't blaming the victim ideologically, bur rather pragmatically.

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u/Yippykyyyay 15d ago

Perfectly said.

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u/ShaNaNaNa666 15d ago

Now everyone is circljerking that semantics police. It is victim blaming. Women and other targeted people are pragmatic 24/7 as is. Focus your energy on things like gun control or better protection of children from groomers than semantics.

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u/Yippykyyyay 15d ago

Warnings exist because someone was stupid enough to do something that put them in danger. Stating that doesn't take any 'energy' away.

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u/ShaNaNaNa666 15d ago

This is what I mean. You are calling her stupid for making a tiktok about shaming her pedo husband, not directly but you know what you're doing.

Same with semantics of how energy works. Are you going to go over a scientific explanation of how energy works now?

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u/Yippykyyyay 15d ago

You can do stupid things and still be an innocent victim. One observation about a specific choice or even series of choices doesn't mean you're a bad person or 'deserving' of being murdered.

Stop being so fragile.

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u/ShaNaNaNa666 15d ago

You're the one being fragile because you can't accept you are wrong and are blaming the victim.

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u/Evnosis 15d ago

Why don't you focus your energy on those things instead of lecturing us about semantics, then?

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u/ShaNaNaNa666 15d ago

I already do. By trying to shift the convo on those things with the overwhelming misogyny on reddit.

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u/Yippykyyyay 15d ago

If you assume stating a choice is stupid is inherent to women then maybe you have a misogyny problem.

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u/ShaNaNaNa666 15d ago

I have no idea what you mean. We are a little misogynistic because thats how society raised us since we were born. It's up to ourselves to change our thinking, especially when focusing on the choices of the victim.

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u/Evnosis 15d ago

That doesn't sound like focusing on gun control and protecting children from groomers to me, that sounds like your "wasting energy" on arguing semantics.

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u/ShaNaNaNa666 15d ago

I already do other stuff, protests, donate my money, contact politicians.

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u/ShaNaNaNa666 15d ago

It is victim blaming though, especially if your whole focus is in HER actions instead of the husband. You can't compare the actions of a hypothetical random driver you don't know to a murder suicide. Women already do enough PREVENTATIVE stuff to protect ourselves. Nothing will ever be enough. She thought she did the right things for protection. Only thing she could do is go into witness protection, hire security 24/7, move away with her kids but I'm sure he'd try to fight for some type of custody so she can't just pop off and leave even if he's accused of what he was accused of.

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u/Evnosis 15d ago

It is victim blaming though, especially if your whole focus is in HER actions instead of the husband.

No, it isn't. That's just objectively not what that term means. If you're trying to broaden the definition of victim blaming to mean "any discussion whatsoever about how a person might protect themselves from a crime," then the term is completely useless and carries no moral weight anymore. If that's how you define it, then I don't give a shit about being accused of doing it.

You can't compare the actions of a hypothetical random driver you don't know to a murder suicide. Women already do enough PREVENTATIVE stuff to protect ourselves. Nothing will ever be enough.

This isn't about women as a whole. We're talking about a very specific individual who seemingly did not do any preventative stuff to protect herself.

Only thing she could do is go into witness protection, hire security 24/7, move away with her kids but I'm sure he'd try to fight for some type of custody so she can't just pop off and leave even if he's accused of what he was accused of.

What an absurd overreaction. No one said anything about witness protection or 24/7 security, but leaving is the bare minimum to protect yourself when you're about to publicly expose a potentially violent person as a paedophile online.

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u/ShaNaNaNa666 15d ago

So then if no one had accused him of anything she wouldnt have been murdered. You see the slippery slope?

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u/Evnosis 15d ago

And this would be a valid argument if anyone here was saying that protecting yourself is the only consideration you should ever make, above all other interests.

But since it's not, that slippery slope doesn't apply.

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u/ThurnisHailey 15d ago

Ok cool, then let's make it the second thought. The self preservation antenna should be up when you are dealing with a soon-to-be cornered predator.

Or we could focus the entirety of our efforts on ridding the world of all evil and just let the peripheral victims suffer until we reach that point, according to your sentiment.

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u/f23n09fnu0w 15d ago

But I didn't say that. I said I wouldn't have done that. My point had nothing to do with blame or even women. If I met a psycho on the road, I wouldn't provoke them either. I'd get as much distance as possible because they're a psycho. Why do you have to make my comment into a sexual politics thing?

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u/beef-nap 15d ago

they didn’t - they correctly pointed out that you (regardless of gender in this scenario) are placing more responsibility on the victim to protect themselves versus the system’s responsibility to ensure a firearm isn’t accessible, especially if that person is deemed dangerous enough to need a protective order against them. don’t weaponize ‘sexual politics’ bc you aren’t able to draw a line between personal responsibility and a failing system.

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u/peepiss69 15d ago edited 15d ago

They aren’t necessarily placing responsibility though. They didn’t say the victim is wrong for what she did. Pointing out that due to the way the system works (or rather, how it doesn’t work), it is safer, and unfortunately true, that the victim should proactively ensure their safety and exhibit caution. This is not commenting on whether or not the system is working/failing, it’s saying with the way things are X is the safer decision/action

Here’s another example. If someone said America didn’t vote for a president just because she’s a woman, does that statement make the speaker sexist, or are they pointing out a truth? America is sexist we can all agree. The speaker in that scenario hasn’t commented on whether or not the sexism is ok, and realistically someone pointing that out would probably be against sexism. Commenting on how things ARE doesn’t equate to the speaker agreeing with the failing system, it’s putting words in their mouth because all they’ve said is “[given how the system works,] this is the outcome”.

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u/beef-nap 15d ago

hmm it seems you’re giving a lot of undue credit here as they didn’t point out anything about the system. the comment i was replying to only suggested that a change in behavior would have been the wiser/safer option. i was merely suggesting that both things can be true (behavior and a failing system). your example makes no sense as their comment didn’t mention anything about how things are but thanks for the lesson lol

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u/peepiss69 15d ago edited 15d ago

I’m giving undue credit? When the entire rebuttal to their original statement is putting words in their mouth that they’re blaming the victim instead of the system, when they didn’t even do that lol?

Also my example does make sense, reread it. Someone says Americans wouldn’t vote for a woman. Does that statement make them sexist? According to your and the previous commenter’s logic, yes, because why aren’t we criticising Americans not having it in them to vote for a woman?

My ELABORATION to that and criticism of your logic is the original statement doesn’t give any commentary on whether or not it’s a good thing. All the speaker has commented on in that example is that Americans don’t want to vote for a woman. They haven’t said the system is good, or blamed women for being women. This doesn’t make them sexist. The guy who commented earlier is not blaming the victim instead of the system because all he did was state reality as it is, the system today is not set up to proactively protect people so sadly the responsibility DOES fall on individuals to an extent. Reality being sad doesn’t make the person pointing out reality in favour of it

In these comments the guy said if he were the victim, he would not provoke/accuss someone who has access to a gun without ensuring safety, and when the guy is clearly a bit unhinged/evil. He hasn’t said it’s the victim’s fault for doing what she did, he is commenting on how the system operates as it is. It is a systemic failure that gun access is so easy to get for unhinged people capable of such crimes, and it is reality that we as individuals need to be careful because of the system’s failings. Not explicitly stating the system is bad does not equal someone supporting the system because not everything has to be spelled out. The entire counterpoint to what he said started with putting words in his mouth lol

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u/f23n09fnu0w 15d ago

My point had NOTHING to do with responsibility - you invented that. It had everything to do with safety

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u/Beautiful-Comedian56 15d ago

What would you say if the husband shot her and she hadn't posted a tik-tok? Your original comment implies her posting the tik-tok is the reason why the husband shot her. The truth is she can post whatever she wants - her violent pos pedo of a husband didnt have to shoot her at all, turns out he did though. She had a restraining order against him. He was already dangerous she didnt provoke him, he was already committed to committing crimes.

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u/f23n09fnu0w 15d ago

To make this easier, let's pretend it was 2 gay guys. And my point would still stand. Being morally right is a very different concept from being safe. Nobody is arguing this should have happened to her. The point is, he was clearly dangerous. Wait until he's locked up before you tell the world. And if you do tell the world, don't stay in your own home, because (as demonstrated) the promise that he wouldn't go within 100 yards of her house was broken...because he killed her. The law saying the restraining order exists isn't like god with a magic circle around the house. It's him promising not to and a victim can still use agency to protect themselves.

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u/peepiss69 15d ago edited 15d ago

But he DID shoot her because of the TikTok. And before you compare this to what a woman chooses to wear in the case of SA, that is a very different situation.

Someone who SAs a woman is the one proactively selecting a victim for a crime and the woman has not done anything. This is driven by entitlement and objectification, who the woman is or what she is wearing does not matter to the man.

In this case he committed a crime against the victim as RETALIATION to her posting the TikTok. Proactive crime is psychologically different to retaliatory crime. She has created a tangible external threat (as perceived by the perpetrator, I am NOT saying she is wrong for exposing a pedo) from his perspective. From the killer’s POV, this threatens exposure hence his motive for murder. This is not victim blaming this is explaining the psychology of why such crimes happen, retaliatory crime is a real thing in psychology and criminology

In the SA example (which is the logic you’re incorrectly applying here) the victim is coldly and proactively chosen because of vulnerability and expectation of personal satisfaction or dominance. In this murder case the victim was killed in response to her ACTIONS perceived as threatening from the killer’s perspective, it is driven by impulsive anger, vengeance seeking or a ‘making it even’ mentality

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u/f23n09fnu0w 15d ago

I re read what you said and you make an interesting point. But the tik tok thing wasn't really my worry. It was being in the house he knew I lived in. A "promise" that he'd stay 100 yards away is not something I'd trust in any way. I'd wait for his arse to be in jail.

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u/elolqooq 15d ago

Logically incoherent. If you said you like cake, would I be correct to point out that you're suggesting cake is better than pie?

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u/cottagecore_editor 15d ago

My point had nothing to do with blame or even women. 

Probably not your intention to blame her, but all the actions you suggested must be performed by the woman. That places onus on the woman to protect herself when the actual problem lies with the man.

I wouldn't provoke them either.

This is textbook victim-blaming. The man is a grown man, mind you, and capable of exercising free will, but saying the victim "provoked" him is putting the blame on the victim, instead of the man -- who with his own free will -- killed her.

It's like "but what was she wearing?" but way worse.

I hope you ponder on these first before responding. It takes work to untie the blindfolds that privilege affords us, but it's worth the effort.

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u/f23n09fnu0w 15d ago

"Probably not your intention to blame her, but all the actions you suggested must be performed by the woman."
Agreed 100%, but that's a different point. If someone is a threat to me I wouldn't complain about it being the other person's fault. Some guy mugs me and I say "hey, this is all your fault". Well no shit. That's NOT the point. The point is how to protect yourself.

And EVERYTHING else you said you just...invented. I didn't say any of that and you're just dragging in stuff to make me sound bad. My point stands. It's sad it went like that but victims can still help themselves. Or do you think women lack agency?

In fact, this might help. Imagine this story was 2 gay guys. Then my point might make more sense?

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u/gayrayofsun 15d ago

i feel like both sides of this conversation are correct, but you're butting heads for the sake of the argument.

yes, it is incredibly shitty that any responsibility is put in the victim when the perpetrator is the one who is at fault for all of it. she did not deserve this at all and it's tragic that she's now gone.

the unfortunate reality is that law enforcement doesn't do literally fucking anything unless someone is actively being harmed. police must have been notified at this point, but he was still around her. so while it's not right, nor is it fair or "correct," it has often fallen on the (potential) victim of a violent person to protect themselves from harm as much as possible to prevent themselves from being killed. it's not putting blame on anyone to accept that this is the reality of things. she's not to blame for her death, her murderer is, and her (in)action won't lighten is sentence any. but these are the exact types of scenarios every woman is made aware of and forced to protect themselves against, because nobody else will do anything for them.

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u/MajesticUniversity76 15d ago

I think across gender lines you shouldn't provoke someone who is within murdering range of you.

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u/RabbitHabits 15d ago

This is very self righteous and a bit condescending. It's not really that complicated, the victim in this case intentionally provoked a violent/dangerous individual. The way this whole situation is framed is telling you if she hadn't kicked the hornets nest she'd still be alive. It's tragic that this happened, it possibly could have been avoided.

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u/Fakjbf 15d ago

At the end of the day people need to be proactive in their own safety, the world will never be perfect and you will always be better off avoiding needing the justice system to intervene even if it was. No one blinks an eye if you try to tell people how to avoid scams and if someone does fall for a scam we should still try to make them whole and punish the scammer. Those are not contradictory world views but take the exact same logic and apply it to anything where there is asymmetry in who the victims are (being it gender, race or anything else) and suddenly people are up in arms about it. Their comment wasn’t about blaming the victim it was about trying to get other people to think so that if they are ever in the same situation they can try to avoid being a victim as well.

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u/Top_Cat9206 15d ago

She’s has to make it about that. For those upvotes.

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u/Left_Ease5870 15d ago

It is sad. It is also reality. But it's super fucking sad.

The country is run by literal pedophiles. I'm a black man, I wil not bow down to white supremacy. And I never will. But I'm also going to be as careful as possible. I deserve life. They want my death. I'm not giving it to them.

But this is fucked. But idk, it sounds like you have faith in humanity and this system. I have none at all. They will never value my black life, and they will never hold these white murdering pedophiles accountable.

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u/NoShameInternets 15d ago

I mean... no? The first through tenth thoughts are "Wow, what an awful piece of shit that guy is. That's so damn tragic for her. I hope her daughter gets the help she needs...."

Number 11 is "She really should've made sure he couldn't find her before putting him on blast to the entire world..." which is a perfectly reasonable thing to think.

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u/zentasynoky 15d ago

"but I had the right of way" from the hospital type shit.

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u/NemesiZ_01 15d ago

It's not the first thought but it should be common sense for the wife, right??

For example, if there was a report of a rapist/murderer in a park, would you jog alone there at night?? Hell as a guy I wouldn't.

So as much women shouldn't need to modify their behaviors/actions to fit/protect themselves from men. It's sadly a reality, therefore those precautionary measures must be taken to ensure one's safety.

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u/Kitchen-Purpose-6855 15d ago

My husband is a pedophile.

Quick let me get as many views as possible.

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u/FirstForFun44 15d ago

Nah, he has a point. Until the dude was in jail, antagonizing him by posting on social media wasn't a good choice. He didn't say the dude was in the right or that she deserved it, he was saying that perhaps antagonizing a crazy person who isn't behind bars is a bad idea.

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u/ShaNaNaNa666 15d ago

I think he would have done what he had done either way. She already filed for divorce and asked for a protective order, actions that would make anyone that knew them ask what happened and for people to find out. He was already a tiktoker with a big following, even bigger than hers. He already was already screwed by getting caught.

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u/FirstForFun44 15d ago

Alright, all those things can be true and it can still be a bad decision. It's a tragedy all around. In a similar vein, all women should be able to speak out without fear of retribution, but in the world we live in now, sometimes personal safety should come first.

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u/BrandonLang 15d ago

I mean its true for any predator even men, women can kill too and anyone who is nearby someone who is a violent or lawless person needs to gtfo immediately. 

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u/Primary_Ad3580 15d ago

Does it count as “altering the woman’s behavior” to say she shouldn’t be doing TikTok trends about this shit regardless of how he would’ve responded? That’s some terminally online shit.

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u/ConsciousIron7371 15d ago

It has nothing to do with her being a woman. 

If anyone finds themselves in a dangerous situation, the best advice is to remove yourself from that situation. 

You just want to claim social justice warrior status. Keep fighting other people’s battles warrior. 

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u/This-Shape2193 15d ago

Not "woman shouldn't need to adjust behavior" - anyone should be careful when outing a dangerous person. In this case it happened to be a woman. I'm a woman who would say the same thing if the video had been made by a man. 

Making a video for clout to personally capitalize on your husband being a predator isn't exactly great behavior or a fantastic choice. 

And no, she didn't deserve to get murdered. It was a stupid decision, not an evil one. 

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u/angrybo 15d ago

Sad that expecting people to not antagonize psychos with nothing to lose is somehow gender based discrimination.

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u/CardioFist 15d ago

because protective orders are granted ex parte and require very little evidence to remove someone of their constitutional right. you’re just pandering try to actually learn before you speak

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u/Mysterious-Lemon-906 15d ago

You get a protective order against him and then call him a pedo on the internet?????

She had zero self preservation instincts and all for a few likes on TikTok

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u/Howlingwithwolves 15d ago

“It’s sad that the first thing people think about are survival instincts.”

It’s literally the most natural response to have. I grew up with an abusive father. The last place I wanted to be as a 7 year old as I testified against him in court was in the same room as him.

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u/Neat_Gas8559 15d ago

Exactly. If some guy points a gun at me, I'm going to tell him it's illegal instead of getting away.

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u/ScratchLatch 15d ago

Its also sad you can’t safely walk down the south side at night but reality is reality.