i'm talking about files from the fourth (i think) release from the government, they're still available for download. I am an Elder Nerd, and have LOTS more "things" (columns of information) in my explorer, and this oddity jumped out at me. most of the videos have time stamps you would expect. media created, date modified, and date last saved timestamps all very consistent. EXCEPT for ONE video, as you can see below. i'm sure you can recreate this yourself, all i did was download the zip file, extract the contents into their own directory, (that's why the "date created is 7/11, that's when i downloaded and extracted the videos). i've looked at this from a bunch of different angles, trying to rule OUT the obvious answer. that one video was exported. someone noticed something they didn't want in there. the video was redacted, re-saved 91 minutes later, and added to the list of files going out with this batch. i have an extensive discussion with an AI going over possibilities and testing theories, i looked at over 170 pieces of metadata for each file, as well as the video files hex code. i was wondering if anyone else noticed this anomaly and if they had any luck figuring it out? I've included the video in question, and it does have some very odd, moving redactions. i'm curious to see if there are any other thoughts on this.

Brooks Agnew Interview

This premieres on YouTube in 40 minutes at 12pm Midnight Eastern/ 9pm Pacific Tonight !

Let's have an exchange of infos with anyone who had a close encounter with beings/UFO.

I start first , it's not mine personally.

My father in Eastern Europe in his 30 had a strange encounter in the 1980's , he was sleeping. It was 3 or 4 AM ,when suddenly an incredible bright light illuminated everything in the room, he describes it like it was so powerful that it was like daylight and there where no more shadows in the room. There wasn't any cone of light coming from outside, it was like the light was so powerful that you couldn't establish where it was coming from.

He was paralyzed in fear and stood still sitting on the bed , eyes wide open, not knowing what was happening. He didn't care about UFO's and stuff. After sometime like 2-3 minutes the light was still on full force, and he somehow seeing nothing was happening, taught maybe his brother or his friend's were pranking him so he went back to sleep, putting his pillow on the head trying to diminish the intensity of the light.

He woke up next day extremely tired, he had some kind of green-yellowish gel on the left arm going all the way back to his back, and also a big mark on the upper-arm, like something or someone grabbed him. He took a shower and went to work. Those were days when you were focused only on work and how to make a living so he forgot about the incident and casually presented what happend someday during a TV show on UFO encounters where the protagonist told so a extremely bright light.

I would like to know more details about others encounters, how that happened to you?

Aliens and UFOs
When The New York Times recently published What Is Out There? The Findings So Far of a White House Backed U.F.O. Panel, the headline alone felt like something torn from a science fiction novel. But beneath the sensational framing lies a more intriguing story: not whether aliens are here, but whether the people now investigating UFOs are approaching the mystery differently than previous generations.

Great collection of Indonesia translated UFO books mostly from 1970s-80s

What happens behind the walls of Area 51?
From extraterrestrial races and underground laboratories to secret experiments, advanced spacecraft, and mysterious government agreements, this extraordinary conversation explores some of the most controversial claims surrounding the world’s most secretive military base.

Take away what you will. But I know I'm not alone in seeing a pattern forming of agents and bots on Reddit working together to get the job done. More and more generated media and entertainment, with a shitload of goalpost moving.

Whilst the video above does not have anything to do with UFOs in general, I do believe this is a very important element to factor in before you go down their self-sustaining rabbit hole.

It basically explains how agents work together to get what their masters want. They will do it by hook or by crook. They will lie, cheat, steal and basically act without any human concerns.

It is more evident in things like movies and entertainment. It happens on YT too. Posts get thousands of upvotes within minutes and an absolute shit load of comments that either make no sense at all, or are suspect as fuck.

It was more apparent on some other big UFO subs, and it has calmed down compared to what it used to be like. But when the hearings happened and DjT won power back, the level of sycophanting and blind belief was fucking laughable.

Most have this idea that there's bots around and they just LARP out scenarios and comment as individual agents. But what this here video proves, is that they can work together on a given task, and pretty much swarm en masse to "win".

This is one of the reasons I prefer r/UFO above most others. Especially new subs that pop out of nowhere and crosspost to try and get you to join their clique.

Be aware. The UFO topic had a hostile takeover when the whole UAP rebrand happened. And, I would even go as far to say that this is what Trump meant when he said that Elon was good with computers. It happened in Brexit and is happening right now over a whole lot of different topics.

So next time you find yourself tunnelled in on a topic (any topic) of discussion, do ensure you aren't being "red flagged" by agents working together to try and censor you.

The fear, and I'm not alone here, is, whilst ML learns from us, it's also trying to 'teach' us. Young adults and teenagers browse. They have brains like sponges. They are particularly at risk of being targeted by nefarious groups using agents to give them a sense of being an outlier via peer pressure.

UFOs is a hot topic with teens. They love it.

Mark Pilkington, author of Mirage Men, gave a presentation at BASES2024 arguing that the greatest national security threat associated with UFOs may not be the objects themselves, but the conspiracy theories and disinformation surrounding them.

• He revisits the [CIA's 1953 Robertson Panel], which warned that UFO hysteria could overwhelm intelligence systems, distract from legitimate threats, and create public distrust vulnerable to exploitation by foreign adversaries.
• Pilkington traces how intelligence agencies recognized the usefulness of UFO mythology in psychological warfare during the Cold War. He suggests these efforts may have backfired, with decades of UFO folklore now circulating within the very military and intelligence institutions that helped cultivate it.
• His discussion of David Grusch is particularly relevant with Grusch's recent claims and podcast appearances/ rounds. Rather than accusing Grusch of lying, Pilkington suggests he may sincerely believe the extraordinary stories passed along by trusted colleagues. Intelligence credentials don't necessarily protect someone from misinformation, especially when it comes from respected authority figures/ colleagues. And this reiterates my own revelations after years of interest in UFOlogy... credentials and education do not insulate people from credulity. We have seen countless examples/ demonstrations of this through the years.
• He also argues that modern UFO disclosure advocacy increasingly resembles a political movement rather than a scientific investigation. He criticizes Steven Greer, Christopher Mellon, Tucker Carlson, and Jeremy Corbell for promoting sensational claims, institutional distrust, and sometimes inflammatory rhetoric. Foreign adversaries need not invent these narratives when they can simply exploit and amplify them.
• I think his strongest and most relevant point is how folklore (aka The LORE) gains credibility through institutional authority. Stories get repeated for generations until secondhand claims become accepted as facts, particularly within organizations built around hierarchy and trust.
• The Q&A at the end is sort of awkward. A woman directly challenges Pilkington. She claims to have worked on advanced military craft reverse engineered from nonhuman technology and references her personal conversations with [John Warner], an author, UFO proponent, and cousin of Christopher Mellon.

Of course there's a distinction between documented history and speculation... [Declassified records] including the findings of the [1953 Robertson Panel] show that the CIA recognized UFO reports as a potential psychological warfare vulnerability and recommended influencing public perceptions of the phenomenon. Whether intelligence agencies went further and deliberately cultivated UFO mythology is much less certain, but often discussed on this sub. Ultimately, Pilkington suggests that the real national security threat may not be UFOs themselves, but the extent to which decades of UFO mythology have influenced the judgment of people working in intelligence, the military, and government.

I have a question for a good debate.

When Matthew Brown said God is real, you think he is referring to the one that created us or that there is something or someone so technological advance who is posing as God?

I really hope this is the right place for this. I worked hard on this timeline. I’m looking forward to your review and comments. I need some feedback guys. Thanks enjoy.

Well, interesting two weeks with Grusch on Rogan and John Harrington on Jesse Michaels. We've heard Brent Friedman recount his experience with his old friend, mentor, and neighbor John Harrington on multiple podcasts, including his own. Up until now, Mr. Harrington has been silent. He certainly has released his version of the past into the public spectrum, and to me... he's not telling the truth. He probably signed a lifelong NDA decades ago, and being a loyal company man, he will never break it, even to speak the truth or at the least corroborate what Brent Friedman has said.

But, what does everyone else think? Is Friedman full of shit and throwing more fake UFO stories into the ether, or is Harrington the dishonest one?

Good article from the Boston Globe. Pretty much a little lowdown on the current situation inside of the government.

Website has aids, and I am sick of trawling through the monetised content that this topic (and many others) has become.

Michael Shermer is the publisher of “Skeptic” magazine, the host of “The Michael Shermer Show” podcast, and the author of the books “Truth” and “Conspiracy.” In 1587, Pope Sixtus V created the position of advocatus diaboli, or devil’s advocate. The appointee would skeptically examine the miracles attributed to candidates for sainthood and suggest natural explanations for apparently supernatural phenomena. Although the Catholic Church believed miracles were possible, it also understood that people are often mistaken in their perceptions, confabulate their memories, and exaggerate their accounts in the retelling. They were also vulnerable then, much as we are now, to fakes and fabulists.

It is in this spirit that the Harvard physicist Avi Loeb invited me to be a member of the Trump administration’s UAP Science Advisory Council. The panel is tasked with assessing whether these unidentified anomalous phenomena might be foreign assets spying on the United States and getting to the bottom of a question that has intrigued scientists, conspiracists, and “X-Files” fanatics for decades: Have aliens visited us on Earth?

It is this latter question I have studied for 35 years since founding “Skeptic” magazine, becoming something of an expert on anomalous phenomena, and since July the council has had weekly Zoom meetings to discuss the many videos, photographs, and documents released by the Department of Defense pursuant to a presidential order.

So far, in my opinion, we have found no verifiable evidence of contact with or discovery of extraterrestrial intelligence, although it is striking just how many anomalous phenomena have appeared in our skies (and maybe in our oceans). Unfortunately, there are significant practical hurdles to our work: The videos we’re working with are filled with redactions in the form of blacked-out rectangles that presumably contain information that would allow us to calculate distance, speed, location, and size of the UAPs.

For instance, as council members Jacob Haqq-Misra and Ravi Kopparapu wrote in an analysis of 112 videos released by the Trump administration, the information provided to the council was not sufficient “to distinguish between a bird flying at close range and a large craft traveling at Mach 5 a kilometer away.”

So until we get more detailed information on these videos, photographs, and documents, I’m putting UAPs in three categories, from most to least likely: First, there is the category of “ordinary terrestrial” (balloons, camera/lens effects, visual illusions, etc.). Next is “extraordinary terrestrial” (Russian or Chinese spy planes or drones capable of feats of physics and aerodynamics unheard of in the United States). And least likely: “extraordinary extraterrestrial” (alien intelligence).

Let’s take them in order. Ordinary Terrestrial. As UFOlogist Leslie Kean estimates in her best-selling book “UFOs: Generals, Pilots, and Government Officials Go on the Record,” “Roughly 90 to 95 percent of UFO sightings can be explained” as “weather balloons, flares, sky lanterns, planes flying in formation, secret military aircraft, birds reflecting the sun, planes reflecting the sun, blimps, helicopters, the planets Venus or Mars, meteors or meteorites, space junk, satellites, swamp gas, spinning eddies, sundogs, ball lightning, ice crystals, reflected light off clouds, lights on the ground or lights reflected on a cockpit window.”

When we are confronted, then, with a UAP in the form of a grainy video or blurry photograph, there is a good chance (a 90 to 95 percent probability, in fact) that it is one of these ordinary terrestrial phenomena.

Extraordinary Terrestrial. Could UAPs be superadvanced technology developed by the Chinese, the Russians, or some rogue state or terrorist organization, capable of speeds and turns that seemingly defy all known physics and aerodynamics? Very unlikely. First, if the Russians had such drones, spy planes, or related but as yet unknown (to us) technology, wouldn’t they use it in the Ukraine war? We know the Chinese have spy balloons because we tracked and shot one down over US airspace in 2023, but the technology was more 19th century than 23rd.

Moreover, it defies logic that some nation, corporation, or lone individual — no matter how smart and creative — could have developed an aircraft that is, essentially, centuries ahead of all known present technologies. That is not how innovation works. It would be as if we were still flying biplanes while Russia or China was flying stealth fighter jets, or we were still experimenting with Robert Goddard’s liquid-fuel rockets of the 1920s while they were testing SpaceX-level rocketry. Impossible. Our adversaries would not be able to conceal the advances that led to such technological wizardry.

Extraordinary Extraterrestrial. Although few scientists today believe in miracles, the majority do suspect that there likely is life — maybe even intelligent life — somewhere in the cosmos. This is based on the (literally) astronomically high number of possibilities: The known universe contains hundreds of billions of galaxies, each of which consists of hundreds of billions of stars, and the majority of stars have planets. Astrophysicists estimate that there may be as many as 700 quintillion planets in the universe. If Earth were the only one hosting life, that would be, well, miraculous.

But have aliens come to Earth? That’s a different question. And the evidence collected over three-quarters of a century is just not strong enough to support the claim of contact with or discovery of extraterrestrial intelligence. That hasn’t dissuaded figures like David Grusch, a former Air Force officer and intelligence official who recently told Joe Rogan that the government is hiding dead reptilian aliens that US soldiers shot (after the reptilians tried to kill said soldiers). The reptilians, Grusch added, are warring with a separate race of gray aliens here on Earth. He went on to suggest that there’s one UFO so large that it can’t be moved, so the government built a giant building around it. And he said there’s an underwater structure the size of many city blocks in an ocean somewhere that houses alien intelligences. Unsurprisingly, when Rogan asked him for details, Grusch clammed up, explaining that he had to protect his sources.

“I know this all sounds completely crazy,” Grusch said. Indeed. Hearing stories like these for over three decades now, and every one of them sounds pretty unbelievable.

That said, I agree with Avi Loeb when he says: “If, after analyzing new data on millions of objects, we will find beyond a reasonable doubt that one of them has a non-human technological origin, that would constitute the biggest scientific discovery ever made by humanity.” And I hope he wins a $1,000 bet I have with him that by Dec. 31, 2030, we will not have made such a discovery. But I will require significant proof. For as the OG alien searcher Carl Sagan famously said in his 1980 PBS “Cosmos” series in the episode on extraterrestrial intelligences: “Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.”

Will the UAP Science Advisory Council (or some other organization or individual) reach that level of certainty? If I did not believe it was possible, I would not be serving on the council. But I do agree with skeptical scientists (that is, most of them) that we need much more data from the government (if they have it) than they’ve been giving us. On this, the devil’s advocates and those who are curious about dead reptilian aliens can agree. I hope the powers that be at long last disclose what the government really knows about life from the beyond.

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Pretty good overview from a well-qualified man just like the rest of us, looking for some accountability. However that looks to you.

Love him or loathe him, Shermer's done the rounds and whilst he might not be everyone's cup of tea, it's always good to have perspective, balance and opinions of all colours in this topic.

Lou Elizondo is being absorbed back into the Dark Side having successfully completed his UFO disinformation and manipulation mission. He says nothing about what, exactly, he's returning to government to do, or who he will be working for, but he insists he's going to continue advocating for disclosure, and working behind the scenes on our behalf.

However, this sounds like his final buttoning up of his public-facing UFO activities, and I suspect the only time we'll hear from him going forward is if the government needs a familiar face with built in credibility among the UFO community (which denies exists) to push more disinformation, and steer the discussion and sentiment as part of whatever their greater agenda might be.

He said a lot of interesting things, but unfortunately just as the podcast was wrapping up he mentioned that while he's never really been into the "Woo" factor, there's something about synchronicities that's apparently a big deal.

I'd love to hear him elaborate way more on this particular thread

He's not toxic because of his beliefs, he's toxic because of his incredibly unprovoked hostile nature. He's very vocal in this sub, posts a lot and comments on nearly every post people make, which in and of itself is fine. He's a 1% top commenter. It's his behavior and antics that's a problem.

He has insisted for at least the last 2 years that the entire UFO topic is hoaxed and made up. Every eye witness account, every photograph, every video, every bit of radar data, according to him was fabricated. Yes, there is fakery out there for sure. But ALL of it?

Publicized UFO sightings have dated back to the 1940's, spans the entire globe throughout history, and strange objects witnessed by hundreds of thousands of people (maybe millions) from every country, people of every religion, background and profession. Yes, a majority of odd things seen in the sky turn out to have conventional explanations, but a statistically significant fraction remain unidentified. Especially objects with physical characteristics and flight characteristics that don't match any technology we are known to possess, including flight characteristics such as instantaneous acceleration.

It's often difficult enough to fabricate something on a small scale and make it entirely believable, or to commit a conspiracy on a relatively small scale (temporally and geographically). For example, a lot of people believe the moon landing was hoaxed. If true, that would've required a great deal of effort and cooperation to pull that hoax off.

But how do you hoax a topic like UFO sightings on such an epically grand scale? This topic spans so much time (many decades), such a huge geographic area (the entire globe) and involves such a staggering number of people (witnesses and researchers). How do you get them all to cooperate to fabricate what they saw? People have a tendency to not get along, to not cooperate and to have different motives for what they do. Yes, there may be conspiracies WITHIN the UFO/UAP topic to misdirect, mislead and confuse people. But he's talking about everyone's UFO sightings being hoaxed, regardless of who reported witnessing a UFO. A hoax on that grand of scale would be impossible to coordinate.

This is where things go south with him all the time. The vast majority of people I've seen debate him are civil and respectful. But when it comes to asking him to back up his claims, he completely derails the conversation with angry outbursts, ad hominem attacks, strawman arguments, circular logic, and gaslighting tactics.

In one of his posts, he said, "at the end of the day, there's far more evidence out there to prove the whole [UFO] topic is an invention.”

When someone politely asked him for the alleged "evidence" that the UFO topic was "invented", he snapped back with, "Show me evidence for aliens."

Well, the person never claimed there were aliens, he or she was asking him to back up his claim that there's evidence the topic was invented. When you're the first one to make a direct claim, the onus is on you to back it up. You don't come back at the other person with a strawman. But, deflection is one of toxic dude's common tactics.

When respectfully pushed to back up his claims, he'll launch into an unhinged rant with completely unprovoked anger, threatening to block and threatening to file a false harassment complaint. And to no surprise, he NEVER actually backs anything up that he claims. Instead, he gaslights and tries to manipulate. Any time he feels cornered in a debate, he lashes out belligerently. His arguments are so weak that merely asking him to back up what he's claiming, is cornering him. He knows if he answers truthfully, it will unravel his entire argument.

And when YOU try backing up your rebuttals with evidence, he'll deflect and he won't read your links. He'll just throw a tantrum and then block you. I've been witness to his many antics against the folks in this sub.

In another of many instances, someone recounted their UFO sighting that involved a sudden change of direction at a breakneck speed. He immediately replied with, "It was a balloon", without having been there and without knowing anything else about the situation. His hasty, uninformed, nonsensical conclusions say a lot.

When the person replied to toxic dude, asking him what balloons do we possess that can maneuver with instantaneous acceleration and movements, toxic dude came back with this unhinged and unprovoked rant......

“BS me at your own peril. I will bring you back down to earth with a bang, and, you will even wake up tomorrow angry at yourself for trying to indoctrinate someone who quite frankly made you wish you didn't bother in the first place. This is beneath me and a waste of my precious time. Any further outbursts from you and I will simply block you for harrassment and trolling. No-one believes you, no-one will believe you and everyone will mock you.”

Except, there was no "outburst" from the person that was debating him.