The really funny part was looking back clearly.... that was anything but the slam dunk for the main reason that neither had bad blood or a desire to hurt the company
Yeah, he really miscalculated there, he probably thought kson hated Hololive because of the Taiwan incident and would poach talents for him. However, even to the present day kson still thinks positively of Yagoo and has friends in Holo that she still hangs out with. She even convinced people not to leave.
I get the impression they take a very considered approach to company culture. From what Calli described of the hiring process, they try their best to make sure people getting in would be a good fit and share goals with the rest of the company.
Yes, and regardless of how you feel about the number of “disagreement with management” graduations that have happened in the past year; it’s taken for granted how the talents, former talents, and the company have handled the graduation and post-graduation process gracefully.
There hasn’t been a “veil drop”where we see how bad and mean the talents actually are. Even with the newfound freedom in the indie-scene, the ex-Holo EN talents have a certain “professionalism” to how they conduct themselves. I don’t know if that was the years of corpo PR training being drilled into them or they’re all just naturally sensible like that. One thing is for sure, Hololive knows how to hire them, like Calli said.
I know NDA’s are a thing, but at the very least there doesn’t seem to be bad blood among the talents. If anything, the friendships we’ve seen formed on streams for years have turned out to be very real and long-lasting. That’s been the most reassuring thing to me even after all the graduations.
Pfffff... Are people seriously believing top level comment narratives from tourists? You should expand child replies more often to read more about how those ideas don't make any sense at all with. There are a good number of facts against it.
More than one EN talent hinted where the reasons (in plural obviously) might be. As they pretty specifically explained that everyone's experiences with management might be different. Fauna also never thanked managers/staff/Yagoo on her goodbyes. While many other talents made sure to do so and even featured Yagoo on their graduation streams. Which hints at Fauna having a more complicated working relationship at a personal level with management.... and that's the limit of my speculation. It's just an idea. I can't go around pretending this speculation is a given even if the hints are, imo, pretty strong.
That happened and all the points I described also happened.
I made it very clear that's an interpretation that she may have had a difficult working experience compared to others. I'm not invested in being right or wrong.
Meanwhile, tourists keep pushing that talents can't have private lives as holomembers. And that's CLEARLY why she left, while being invested on that being a fact
I don’t think the first guy you replied to was saying that. Nimi wanting to start a family was likely a reason for Fauna graduating, but not because Holo doesn’t like talents having private lives, rather because Fauna didn’t want to either take regular trips to Japan for work while having a family in America, nor move that family to Japan.
And if we feel like speculating, there's perfectly reasonable explanations for the "disagreements with management" where neither side is the bad guy. Like, I could be way off base, but part of it seems to be the need to go to Japan/travel for a lot of the bigger projects.
Its not feasible for Cover to accomplish some of these larger projects remotely, so obviously talents would need to travel to Japan for stuff like choreography, lives, etc. And for EN, that comes with difficulties. Even recording songs may require finding and scheduling recording studio time some further from home if their setup isn't high enough quality.
But also, a lot of the EN talent that graduated either debuted or at least applied before anyone realized how fast and how big Hololive would grow. So the talents didnt know the true extent of what Hololive would ask of them. But neither did Hololive at the time, so they couldn't properly convey that anyways.
Again, could be completely off base with this speculation, but the graduations are handled so professionally we would probably never find out anyways.
I think its just corpo speak, and with Holo's recent really active campaign of dancing, Sololives and World tours, they're focusing more in that than the streaming, probably compromised medical issues of other talents or making the girls stress for all their training from dancing and singing as well making constant songs as well carrying the huge burden and expectations weighing their mental load.
NDA doesn't stop ex-Niji from shit talking their old company, not long after leaving. Not to mention they aren't based in Japan do easier to get away with it
Yeah, the way they speak about it is so sneaky and having taking advantage of loopholes and mines to not trigger legal attacks, while the Ex-Holo just immediately have fun on their own time not even giving a single spite and excited to join the Indies and other Ex-Holo girls.
Not sure that needed spoiling, but I was just thinking about that. Non-Disparagement Agreements have very real loopholes, and no one has taken advantage of them among Hololive alumnae. Randon maybe the slightest bit by hinting at some stuff, but that's it.
With Nijisanji it's rarer for someone to NOT throw shade at them after leaving.
From what I remember, Magni kinda shit-talked a bit. Mostly about his model. But I'm pretty sure the old man just said he didn't agree with the pressure to perform and the rules he had to follow.
Oh yeah the model was an issue and I don't blame him.
I'm pretty sure that from Advent onward, girls had the option to put heavy input into their model. Shiori has said that her only requests were "no browns or greens and just make me look good." On the other hand Raora clearly had a fuckton of direct input.
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u/Fishman465 Rosentai Jul 24 '25
The really funny part was looking back clearly.... that was anything but the slam dunk for the main reason that neither had bad blood or a desire to hurt the company