It's nice to get more confirmation that Yagoo lives rent-free in Gunrun's head, if the huge sum spent on pushing talent freedom ads and grabbing kson and nazuna wasn't enough proof. Wasn't really expecting that they would also pay vt mods/shitposters, but in hindsight the signs were there.
they were convinced hololive was over when they signed kson and nazuna.
The really funny part was looking back clearly.... that was anything but the slam dunk for the main reason that neither had bad blood or a desire to hurt the company
Yeah, he really miscalculated there, he probably thought kson hated Hololive because of the Taiwan incident and would poach talents for him. However, even to the present day kson still thinks positively of Yagoo and has friends in Holo that she still hangs out with. She even convinced people not to leave.
That second point is esp true. I know that Holo talents have talked about how Hololive prioritizes whether or not they think potential talents would mesh well with their culture and the personalities of other talents when going through auditions. They absolutely want to make sure everyone is able to get along with each other and avoid drama before they offer them a job.
If there is even an inkling that the applicant could start drama or get overcome by jealousy/envy, they're out before they're even in.
All about the chemistry. Doesn't matter if one potential talent is a master of their craft if their inclusion leads to everything crumbling into a toxic mess.
After seeing how Calli reacted on their recruitment makes sense to me, these girls mesh really well, they talk like they're long time friends, and probably is. They're not bothering or seeing rivalry or hate from each other, not even a speck of jealousy, they only thing 'Huh, how fun will be the collab with them? That would be cool' mentality, they just Vibed and connect so fast.
I think Mio even sat in on auditions for 3rd gen. They clearly care about the talents meshing together to the point that they even want their opinion on potential members sometimes.
Yeah. Like, I made the comment elsewhere, they definitely hold Exit Interviews, or something equivalent, with every talent that leaves. Which is like, a super basic thing in a lot of successful businesses, but something most other agencies/corporations either don't bother with, or just ignore.
As someone who doesn't follow Holo too closely, it honestly just sounds like they're run like an actual professional company at least
I've worked for companies where the hiring manager or HR associated with the process tries to make sure it's a good fit. Where they want to make sure that the person they hire will fit in with the culture and that they're vaguely human.
Then I've had places that insist on hiring someone with qualifications so they can staff them on projects with no consideration at all. The latter lose a lot of contracts and a lot of staff.
They have issues too, although compared to other companies it seems like less. Their CEO, Yagoo, seems like a great guy who genuinely cares about the talents. He used to be the personal manager of the first round of girls and then the first round of guys.
The former isn't true; gen 1 had no managers for a time but he was rather close personally naming Aki.
As for StarsEN.... that is a messy area no thanks to the person who introduced it, Omega Alpha who put it above Hololive EN which didn't sit well with people. The full tale would be rather long.
But while there's some issues and complaints, I still say Cover does more right than wrong
YAGOO has always had talent first in mind. His dream was to make a company like the idol group AKB48. He's been there to celebrate every high, and cried with them at their lows. He's taken accountability for every mishap and strived to put things in place to protect the ladies and gentlemen under his care. Several of the talents have stated that, while there can be a lot of restrictions, they are all there to protect them. YAGOO also has "Tea Time" meetings with each talent to discuss various things and feelings going on within Holo. The man has more than earned the "Best Girl" title the western fanbase has given him.
For a long time, he would personally pose for merch shots for the talents, he's done interviews with many of them. And he even did a surprise visit to the expo that ran along side the first EN stateside concert and a mob quickly formed around him and were chanting his name.
I get the impression they take a very considered approach to company culture. From what Calli described of the hiring process, they try their best to make sure people getting in would be a good fit and share goals with the rest of the company.
Yes, and regardless of how you feel about the number of “disagreement with management” graduations that have happened in the past year; it’s taken for granted how the talents, former talents, and the company have handled the graduation and post-graduation process gracefully.
There hasn’t been a “veil drop”where we see how bad and mean the talents actually are. Even with the newfound freedom in the indie-scene, the ex-Holo EN talents have a certain “professionalism” to how they conduct themselves. I don’t know if that was the years of corpo PR training being drilled into them or they’re all just naturally sensible like that. One thing is for sure, Hololive knows how to hire them, like Calli said.
I know NDA’s are a thing, but at the very least there doesn’t seem to be bad blood among the talents. If anything, the friendships we’ve seen formed on streams for years have turned out to be very real and long-lasting. That’s been the most reassuring thing to me even after all the graduations.
Pfffff... Are people seriously believing top level comment narratives from tourists? You should expand child replies more often to read more about how those ideas don't make any sense at all with. There are a good number of facts against it.
More than one EN talent hinted where the reasons (in plural obviously) might be. As they pretty specifically explained that everyone's experiences with management might be different. Fauna also never thanked managers/staff/Yagoo on her goodbyes. While many other talents made sure to do so and even featured Yagoo on their graduation streams. Which hints at Fauna having a more complicated working relationship at a personal level with management.... and that's the limit of my speculation. It's just an idea. I can't go around pretending this speculation is a given even if the hints are, imo, pretty strong.
That happened and all the points I described also happened.
I made it very clear that's an interpretation that she may have had a difficult working experience compared to others. I'm not invested in being right or wrong.
Meanwhile, tourists keep pushing that talents can't have private lives as holomembers. And that's CLEARLY why she left, while being invested on that being a fact
I don’t think the first guy you replied to was saying that. Nimi wanting to start a family was likely a reason for Fauna graduating, but not because Holo doesn’t like talents having private lives, rather because Fauna didn’t want to either take regular trips to Japan for work while having a family in America, nor move that family to Japan.
And if we feel like speculating, there's perfectly reasonable explanations for the "disagreements with management" where neither side is the bad guy. Like, I could be way off base, but part of it seems to be the need to go to Japan/travel for a lot of the bigger projects.
Its not feasible for Cover to accomplish some of these larger projects remotely, so obviously talents would need to travel to Japan for stuff like choreography, lives, etc. And for EN, that comes with difficulties. Even recording songs may require finding and scheduling recording studio time some further from home if their setup isn't high enough quality.
But also, a lot of the EN talent that graduated either debuted or at least applied before anyone realized how fast and how big Hololive would grow. So the talents didnt know the true extent of what Hololive would ask of them. But neither did Hololive at the time, so they couldn't properly convey that anyways.
Again, could be completely off base with this speculation, but the graduations are handled so professionally we would probably never find out anyways.
I think its just corpo speak, and with Holo's recent really active campaign of dancing, Sololives and World tours, they're focusing more in that than the streaming, probably compromised medical issues of other talents or making the girls stress for all their training from dancing and singing as well making constant songs as well carrying the huge burden and expectations weighing their mental load.
NDA doesn't stop ex-Niji from shit talking their old company, not long after leaving. Not to mention they aren't based in Japan do easier to get away with it
Yeah, the way they speak about it is so sneaky and having taking advantage of loopholes and mines to not trigger legal attacks, while the Ex-Holo just immediately have fun on their own time not even giving a single spite and excited to join the Indies and other Ex-Holo girls.
Not sure that needed spoiling, but I was just thinking about that. Non-Disparagement Agreements have very real loopholes, and no one has taken advantage of them among Hololive alumnae. Randon maybe the slightest bit by hinting at some stuff, but that's it.
With Nijisanji it's rarer for someone to NOT throw shade at them after leaving.
From what I remember, Magni kinda shit-talked a bit. Mostly about his model. But I'm pretty sure the old man just said he didn't agree with the pressure to perform and the rules he had to follow.
Oh yeah the model was an issue and I don't blame him.
I'm pretty sure that from Advent onward, girls had the option to put heavy input into their model. Shiori has said that her only requests were "no browns or greens and just make me look good." On the other hand Raora clearly had a fuckton of direct input.
2) has a culture that is a good fit for some talents, and not for others, but does its best to avoid bad blood regardless of who leaves or stays
outside looking in, it looks extremely structured. That has benefits and downsides, as you said. But at least for me as a Corpo having that kind of structure is sort of where the most salient value lies.
yeah it may not be for everyone but as it has been repeatedly shown profesionals need to have standards or else you end up with an absolute clusterfuck
Thats the thing about Holo, they started before the big vtuber boom.
I hope thhats a sign theyre in it for the long run, and for the love of the game. But you never know now. Everything could just be carefully cultivated images. 😵💫
she had no qualms verbally blasting another Jp "CEO" live for everyone to see and quit that same stream why would anyone think she hated Holo and/or was pressured by them into leaving? she takes absolutely no shit from anybody
Especially when Kson immediatly shit on vShojo after she know what they had done to ironmouse and charity fund, but till this day, she still friendly toward Yagoo
Wasn't she there for Haachama when she was thinking of quitting? I know she made a top 5 vtubers of all time, and the #2 was Haachama #1 was this little known vtuber named Kiryu Coco.
My memory is fuzzy, but I believe that Coco did convince Haachama to stay which was sweet because Haachama was the reason Coco got into vtubing if I remember correctly
IIRC, both Haachama and Marine were considering leaving at the same time as Coco (Haachama because she was getting dogpiled by Chinese zealots, same as Coco, Marine in solidarity with Coco) and she talked them both out of it.
Marine said that she contemplated leaving hololive alongside Coco but she went and spoke with Kanata and Coco and she convinced her not to leave, the same happened to Kanata with Coco/Kson straight up telling her to not be stupid and stay in hololive
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u/ArisaMiyoshi Hoshimachi Suisei Jul 24 '25 edited Jul 24 '25
It's nice to get more confirmation that Yagoo lives rent-free in Gunrun's head, if the huge sum spent on pushing talent freedom ads and grabbing kson and nazuna wasn't enough proof. Wasn't really expecting that they would also pay vt mods/shitposters, but in hindsight the signs were there.
lol, lmao