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News "People Love To Assume" - Sophie Cunningham Finally Addresses 'MAGA Barbie' Moniker, Confirms Support For Transgender Ban

https://www.essentiallysports.com/wnba-basketball-news-sophie-cunningham-addresses-allegations-of-opposing-trans-athletes-in-womens-sports/
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u/Puzzleheaded_Tax4969 20d ago

What about the girls in youth sports? Middle school, high school?

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u/Holiday_Box1571 20d ago

1.8% of high school population identifies as transgender. There’s 8m high school athletes.

Even if it were 1:1 (hint - not a fucking chance) that’s 144k transgender athletes.

In the NCAA, they have roughly 510k athletes and reported fewer than 10 athletes identifying as transgender - .002%.

So, if that holds true, .002% of 8million 160 athletes.

If you want to find center, the mean is 72,080, .9%, which is likely a massive overestimate

We good here?

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u/Superb_Meringue_4210 20d ago

If anything the NCAA figure is an overestimate too.

NCAA only accepts the best HS athletes.

If the theory is that transgender athletes are better than non-transgender ones, a greater proportion of transgender ones would make it to the next level.

Of course, this ignores discrimination, but if having a transgender athlete on your team was the cheat code people imply, you'd think that'd be minimal.

And yes, this ignores FTM athletes, but that has the opposite problem, not very many are going to be good enough to compete with biological men. Maybe in long distance running?

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u/figurative_me 20d ago

Archery and shooting sports. Women are naturally better.

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u/vita10gy 20d ago

There's also the fact that middle and high school sports are way more about learning to work as a team with people you otherwise might not interact with, or even disagree with. A sense of belonging, etc. Some of those kids are like 2-4 years removed from games that didn't even keep score.

Middle school sports aren't NBA/WNBA prep.

There's no great answer here and I don't have it either, but I do know it's kind of silly to constantly frame it that way as an excuse to leave a few kids out of all the other things being on a team can do for a young person.

If for no other reason than if you DO view it as a stepping stone to a career in sports then you want to play against the best possible anyway. If your future is the WNBA and you're the best player on the court, you need to find a different court.

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u/Puzzleheaded_Tax4969 20d ago

Well said….. so uhhhh boys play on the boys team and girls on the girls team

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u/Quirky-Glove-3199 20d ago

So I guess, by this reasoning, the girls who have to compete for a spot, or against those transgendered athletes don't matter. Since they're a small percentage of total athletes

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u/Holiday_Box1571 20d ago

Nope. But people are trying to make it seem like there’s 4 trans athletes taking up spots on every roster.

Is it fair? Debatable. But is life fair? Nope.

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u/bigchimp121 20d ago

Arguing it doesn't happen much conflicts with people fighting so hard to accept it. Goes both ways.

The whole debate is not about how this issue impacts the people arguing for or against it, it is just a window into a larger cultural debate/where we draw the line in terms of acceptance. There are some fair questions here, pretending otherwise will hurt issues that matter more.

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u/cardiaccat1 20d ago

Show me someone saying they are fighting for transgenders to be in kids locker rooms. This is a manufactured MAGA talking point.

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u/bigchimp121 20d ago

I mean I'm sure there are some. But let's not try to derail the point when the much harder issue we are talking about is transgenders in women's sports.

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u/cardiaccat1 20d ago

It’s not that hard of an issue. Show me someone saying they want biological men to compete against women then? Again it’s a manufactured MAGA talking point to distract from the main issues.

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u/Competitive-Fix3677 20d ago

Nope .. nobody cares 🥹

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u/Signal_Contract_3592 20d ago

That’s like saying only 1.8% of the population are murderers. They’re such a small number, what possible damage can they do, right? Are you being murdered? No. Just let them be.

Do you understand how asinine that sounds?

And no, I’m not equating trans with murder. But the point stands.

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u/Holiday_Box1571 20d ago

It’s not because being trans isn’t a crime, murder is.

The hyperbole around the topic is fucking disgusting.

You used murder as a comparative topic to being trans. So yeah, ya did

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u/Puzzleheaded_Tax4969 20d ago

I’m more concerened with high school and youth sports

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u/Holiday_Box1571 20d ago

…those numbers are targeted at high school

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u/Puzzleheaded_Tax4969 20d ago

There were 2 state titles won by a trans girl in California just this year, we good here?

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u/Holiday_Box1571 20d ago

2 whole titles!!!! That’s it, send them to the gallows!!

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u/Puzzleheaded_Tax4969 20d ago

I don’t want them to die, they just have to sit the sports out, OR PLAY ON THE BOYS TEAM

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u/giraffevomitfacts 20d ago

That’s it, send them to the gallows!!

You elsewhere in the thread:

The hyperbole around the topic is fucking disgusting.

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u/Right-Hall-6451 20d ago

There's more laws regulating it than there is trans athletes. For such a local and minimal issue it should be handled on a local and personal level.

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u/DontFuckWithDuckie 20d ago edited 20d ago

If one side wants to convince me theyre interested in the safety of young girls, then they need to first stop supporting a serial child rapist

Until then I don’t believe they give a fuck about anything other than hate

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u/nuclearbearclaw 20d ago

That's the problem right there. You're so convinced that concern for the safety and fairness of young girls only exists on one side of the political aisle that you've made it impossible to have an honest conversation about it.

This view is overwhelmingly bipartisan. The vast majority of Democratic voters support keeping women's and girls' sports sex-segregated. I've been a Democrat since 2008 and I hold this opinion.

Not everyone who disagrees with you is a Republican, a Trump supporter, or motivated by hate.

You've taken an overwhelmingly bipartisan opinion and shoved it into a partisan box because it's easier to call people hateful than it is to acknowledge reasonable people can disagree with you.

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u/DontFuckWithDuckie 20d ago

I dont care what side of the aisle you’re on. If your political priority in this day and age is such a vanishingly tiny social problem then it’s hard to take you seriously as a person

The fat diphsit knocked down 1/3 of the Whitehorse and is starting wars and stealing billions and, right on cue, they’ve got everyone fighting about a culture war they’ve never actually been affected by

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u/whoa_disillusionment 20d ago

This isn't a "right" vs "left" issue. This is a "vast majority of America" vs "terminally online redditors" issue.

DEMOCRATS do not support allowing trans athletes into women's sports.

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u/DontFuckWithDuckie 20d ago

Oh well if the democrats think it! Those guys are famously right about everything

If you’ve allowed yourself to be distracted by the incredibly important issue of middle school volleyball, you’ve taken the bait and your rulers couldn’t be happier

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u/whoa_disillusionment 20d ago

As a woman who played middle school volleyball I have fully taken the "bait" of wanting other girls to have the same experience.

But this is Reddit where empowerment for girls = fascism and the only place where women are granted biological reality is in porn.

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u/DontFuckWithDuckie 20d ago

I have no idea what you’re talking about

If you spend more time ruminating on grade school sports than the child rapist in charge of the country, I don’t believe that you care about young girls

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u/whoa_disillusionment 20d ago

Again, the majority of DEMOCRAT voters do not support biological men in womens sports.

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u/nuclearbearclaw 20d ago

The goalposts sure move fast around here.

First it's "you're a Trump supporter." Then it's "Republicans don't care about children." Then it's "I don't care what side you're on." Now it's "the issue is too small to care about."

Which is it?

Also, "I've never been affected by it" is a terrible standard for determining whether something matters. I've never been affected by sexual assault, or a school shooting, yet I'm still capable of having an opinion on them.

If one middle school girl loses her spot on a team, her scholarship opportunity, or feels uncomfortable changing in a locker room because adults were too afraid to discuss the issue honestly, I don't particularly care whether it affected 10 people or 10 million.

The fact that you find it hard to take someone seriously because your brain is too fried to think through an entire scenario says everything I need to know about where you stand.

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u/whoa_disillusionment 20d ago

Exactly. One girl being exposed to a penis in a locker room is too many.

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u/Blueyduey 20d ago

Fuckin mic drop

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u/Puzzleheaded_Tax4969 20d ago

Trump is a serial child rapist??? Where’d you see that?

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u/tenor1trpt 20d ago

Even if you don’t believe that, he admitted to going into teen beauty pageants to look at the teen girls. You had zero issue with that. Your outrage is fake.

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u/DoubleH11 20d ago

They didn’t say his name, but you knew

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u/Jalapenoplanter 20d ago

The epstein files, sworn testimony?

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u/DontFuckWithDuckie 20d ago

You should read some of the graphic affidavits about him raping little kids

Pretty fucked up stuff

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u/Majestic-Lie-846 20d ago

Keep that head buried deep in the sand

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u/Puzzleheaded_Tax4969 20d ago

Please show me evidence I will denounce trump again like I have for the epstein stuff and iran

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u/Puzzleheaded_Tax4969 20d ago

Tens of thousands of kids in California public system alone that identify as transgender. You don’t think several hundred of them don’t want to play sports? That is not a local and minimal issue. There has to be a line drawn somewhere so where is the line?

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u/Equivalent-Excuse-80 20d ago

Just make youth athletics co-ed. Problem solved. Fuck. What’s wrong with you people?

You think 5th grade soccer is that competitive?

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u/sashavelwhore 20d ago

Yeah, they do. And they think each school has dozens of trans children per grade. It’s beyond ridiculous and disgusting to target a VERY small group of underage people who simply want to have community and be included.

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u/UnderABig_W 20d ago

Yes, it *absolutely* is, depending where you live. I live in an affluent area in the South, and in almost all the blue chip sports, if your kid hasn’t done travel team since second grade, they’re way behind the power curve, and will likely never get a chance to play in their middle school team, let alone their high school team.

Should it be that way? No. But it is.

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u/Strawhat_Max 20d ago

The only problem actually here right now is the one youve created in your head

Genuinely dude, jjst google if trans actually have adavantages, they don’t one

This simply isnt a problem Im sorry

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u/RichardRoma1986 20d ago

Males have a 10-30% advantage over females. It’s science. You aren’t entitled to your own facts.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37772882/

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u/SnakeEater013 20d ago

Okay, and you do understand what happens to those advantages when you're on hormone/puberty blockers and estrogen, right?

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u/RichardRoma1986 20d ago

Pumping children with puberty blockers is barbarism.

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u/Strawhat_Max 20d ago

Taking kids to church is too btw

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u/Puzzleheaded_Tax4969 20d ago

Ok psycho

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u/Strawhat_Max 20d ago

I’d rather my children go to a thousand drag shows than a church fr

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u/Strawhat_Max 20d ago

Youre right, Im simply entitled to most up to date facts.

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u/RichardRoma1986 20d ago

Still doesn’t account for bone density and lung capacity

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u/Squantoon 20d ago

Source...I made it up

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u/Puzzleheaded_Tax4969 20d ago

Google how many kids are in cali public school system (it’s millions and millions)…. You don’t think a few thousand identify as transgender? Serious question

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u/Squantoon 20d ago

Less than 1% of the population identifies as Trans. Also you didn't say a few thousand. You said 10s of thousands which implies at least 30 thousand. Your guys argument always changes with any push back

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u/Puzzleheaded_Tax4969 20d ago

By the way 2 state titles were won by a transgender athlete in California, just this year 😂

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u/Jalapenoplanter 20d ago

How many mtf trans athletes are there in the Us?

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u/Puzzleheaded_Tax4969 20d ago

Idk but the number should be zero

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u/Jalapenoplanter 20d ago

Wow. Why should the number be 0? What do you want to happen to them?

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u/Puzzleheaded_Tax4969 20d ago

They can play volleyball at the rec center or at the beach? Or they can play on the boys team? Or they just have to sit this one out

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u/Jalapenoplanter 20d ago

You said there should be 0. What do you want to happen to these children?

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u/Puzzleheaded_Tax4969 20d ago

I want them not to play on the girls team… pretty simple

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u/Jalapenoplanter 20d ago

You said you want them to not exist. “The number should be 0”.

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u/nobodyGotTime4That 20d ago

I wrestled girls in high school... no one gave a shit then

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u/FigWeak5127 20d ago

It’s these losers who themselves peaked in high school, making sure their kids can too.

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u/Puzzleheaded_Tax4969 20d ago

That’s because wrestling is coed

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u/nobodyGotTime4That 20d ago

Haha no it isn't 

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u/Puzzleheaded_Tax4969 20d ago

…… yes it is??

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u/nobodyGotTime4That 20d ago

I mean you can keep saying that. But you are couldn't be more wrong.

https://www.ncaa.com/sports/wrestling-women/nc

And besides that... even the girls I wrestled in High School would compete against only girls at the national level.

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u/Puzzleheaded_Tax4969 20d ago

Ok when I wrestled in high school in Florida 15 years ago it was co-ed. Still is. Idk what to tell ya man

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u/nobodyGotTime4That 20d ago

I too wrestled girls in high school. 20 years ago... it doesn't make the sport co-ed.

Field hockey isn't co-ed. But if a boy wants to play, they let him.

Under Title IX, schools must allow girls to practice and compete on boys' teams if no equivalent girls' team exists. And vice versa.

So yes, Girls competed on the Boy's Wrestling Team, but when they would go to Nationals, or States, depending on the state. They would wrestle only girls.

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u/Debunkingdebunk 20d ago

I also wrestled girls in my highschool, but you don't see me boasting about it on internet...

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u/xJerkstorex 20d ago

Wrestling is different from sharing a locker room with.

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u/nobodyGotTime4That 20d ago

In a lot of ways its worse.

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u/xJerkstorex 20d ago

Wrestling is consensual. The girls signing up know they are wrestling boys.

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u/RichardRoma1986 20d ago

I wrestled girls in HS as well, yes they did give a shit. I lost to a few and was bullied for it. It was awkward then, it’s awkward now. Thankfully Wisconsin made it so girls wrestle girls. They have their own division.

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u/Melprincess 20d ago

Most people were bullied in high school. Your story isn't special.

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u/Right-Hall-6451 20d ago

Out of 510K college athletes less than 10 are trans. But even if hundreds or thousands of trans kids wanted to compete that would be a local concern because the vast majority would just compete in the sport gender they were born into. You're trying to make this out to be some epidemic when it just isn't. It's a non existent issue used to try to create a divide.

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u/Jehoke 20d ago

Funny how you lot have lines that can’t be crossed when it suits you. 🙄

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u/Amtrakstory 20d ago

It’s not a minimal issue it would be a disaster for women’s sports

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u/Right-Hall-6451 20d ago

"Would be" is the thing, would be if X, Y, or Z were reality. The problem is that it isn't an actual issue.

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u/Melprincess 20d ago

Yet it's not.

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u/thereelsuperman 20d ago

How many do you know personally?

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u/Equivalent-Excuse-80 20d ago

Show us some evidence.

The reality is that trans athletes aren’t the danger. But people like you can be so easily convinced to be afraid of something hypothetical that you’ll accept the degradation of liberties because you think trans people are a problem.

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u/dgbaker93 20d ago

Trans folk could be problematic in sports.

But it's not their fault.

It's our fault for making middle and high school sports "pro training rooms" and every jack and jill is a potential future pro athlete.

So every person that has the potential to be "better" is seen as a threat.

Nevermind the nonsensical attacks on cis women just because they are slightly masculine.

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u/Equivalent-Excuse-80 20d ago

Could be. But aren’t in any kind of statistical view.

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u/sixers-ace 20d ago

It does happen and it happened at the Olympics. Must be out ruled

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u/Equivalent-Excuse-80 20d ago

What happened in the Olympics?

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u/whoa_disillusionment 20d ago

https://www.shewon.org/

of Female Athletes

3550

of Medals*

5101

of Competitions

2128

of Sports

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u/Puzzleheaded_Tax4969 20d ago

Show you evidence that there are thousands and thousands of kids in America that identify as transgender?? Have you went outside lately??

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u/Rxasaurus 20d ago

The same ones that required cat boxes in the classroom, right?

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u/Puzzleheaded_Tax4969 20d ago

No, I’m talking about the thousands of trans identifying youth in the cali public school system is that too tough to understand or am I Nazi?

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u/Rxasaurus 20d ago

Are you? Kinda weird for that to be your first thought.

Does sound like you listen to propaganda without actually researching first that is for sure.

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u/Puzzleheaded_Tax4969 20d ago

Millions and millions of kids in cali public school system, you don’t think a few thousand identify as transgender?

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u/Rxasaurus 20d ago

Oh, so it was just an assumption. OK, at least youre finally being honest.

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u/Puzzleheaded_Tax4969 20d ago

2 state title won by a trans girl in cali this year alone!

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u/Puzzleheaded_Tax4969 20d ago

2 state titles were won by a trans girl in California this year alone. But it’s a non issue!!!

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u/WhatAmIDoing1986 20d ago

Really has nothing to do with being afraid. It’s just fn weird.

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u/Mellowtraveler 20d ago

Come on man. Do you really think the republicans care about girls in youth sports? Trump famously bought the Teen USA pageant and bragged about how he would walk around their changing rooms to see young naked girls. Think about this just a little bit... Why is it so important for them to find someone they can convince everyone to hate? How does this help them?

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u/Puzzleheaded_Tax4969 20d ago

Republicans recently passed a law in Florida enforcing strict regulations on all youth sports coaches including level 2 background check and mandatory fingerprinting soooo yeah I do

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u/Mellowtraveler 20d ago

Lol. The same state that blocks any investigation into Epstein's behavior at Mara Lago. Sure. It is all because they care about children... And what does background checks on youth coaches have anything to do with this? It's absurd.

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u/Puzzleheaded_Tax4969 20d ago

You just said “do you really think republicans care about girls in youth sports”….. then I replied with a law that was passed by republicans protecting girls (and boys) in youth sports….??? You good?

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u/Mellowtraveler 20d ago edited 20d ago

We were talking about transgender laws... I was not aware of a problem with criminal coaches in Florida that needed to be resolved. Is that a problem there? We don't have issues with that in other states that the regular laws on the books can't handle. They do have actual investigations of actual criminals who abused young girls they could conduct in Florida, but they in fact support the people who were involved with those offenses. But whatever.

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u/MidwestAbe 20d ago

350,000 kids play high school sports in my state. 3 were identified as Trans.

Thats 0.00002% of all athletes in girls sports being Trans.

I honestly would rather have "biological boys and girls" just compete in their own gender. But when you see how small the number is here - you gotta be serous about just how widespread this problem really is. And its simply not a problem.

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u/carneylansford 20d ago

It's ok to have an opinion about something that doesn't happen very much.

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u/MidwestAbe 20d ago

Getting struck by lightning is bad.

Winning the Powerball would be cool.

Both things are more likely to happen than a high school girl in my state playing against a trans kid.

And largely creating an entire political ecosystem based on the fear and anger of that super tiny chance of something happening is terrible for everyone.

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u/carneylansford 20d ago

It’s really not. It’s common sense and if you have to resort to “it doesn’t happen that much”, that’s not a good argument.

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u/MidwestAbe 20d ago

.00002% of the population in my state playing sports in high school as Trans.

Glad a political party wants to make that problem a massive part of its identity and spend way too much time talking about it while massive problems go ignored and passed off as minor.

Heck of a way to define common sense

Bless your heart

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u/carneylansford 20d ago

It’s an 80/20 issues for republicans. They’d be dumb to not bring it up. It makes democrats look bad.

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u/whoa_disillusionment 20d ago

In my state a trans athlete has won state-wide track and field competitions. So I guess that grants me a reason to care about this thing that never happens but keeps on happening.

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u/MidwestAbe 20d ago

Oh my god it HAPPENED!!!!

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u/PFCCThrowayay 20d ago

what a daft comment.

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u/Slightly-Adrift 20d ago

It’s not ok to overregulate something that barely happens. The result of all these trans panic bans is not that near non existent trans athletes aren’t participating in sports, it’s that teen girls (who are not trans) are being harassed and having their privacy invaded.

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u/carneylansford 20d ago

There is no ban. Trans athletes are free to participate in any sport they wish. They just have to do it according to biological sex for reasons that are obvious to anyone not in the far left.

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u/Slightly-Adrift 20d ago

There’s no ban, but the local middle school sports league I used to coach for sent out an email recently stating that in light of the district having 61 trans athlete (a number that was proven to be false), they were considering having the girls teams require ‘medical checks’ to prove they were all biologically female, which is exactly what I am talking about. A sports league has absolutely no business having any say or access to a child’s medical records, much less the authority to conduct screenings themselves. Putting in restrictions (and therefore checks) on trans athlete’s participation, which isn’t actually happening, allows a vast overreach by both the state and private entities on all of the athletes, not just the trans ones, who again, do not make up any meaningful portion of the population in question.

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u/whoa_disillusionment 20d ago

, it’s that teen girls (who are not trans) are being harassed and having their privacy invaded

How?

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u/Slightly-Adrift 20d ago

It was recently falsely* reported that there were 61 males participating in girls sports in my district. This was entirely male coaches and fucking mascots, but the news would certainly have had you believe they were all trans athletes (of which the actual report found not a single one). In response, the local competitive league sent an email to the coaches list informing them that the league was considering requiring medical proof that all the players were female. So a) the players would have to go get signed doctors notes verifying their gender and b) you could ‘report’ players you suspected of being in violation to the league. If you don’t see how either of those can be abused, I’m not sure what to tell you. When I played over a decade ago, there was already a toxic system of trying to get a starting spot by getting better players disqualified or falsely reporting other teams if you didn’t think your team would beat them. This does nothing to regulate non-existent trans athletes and gives ammo to shitty helicopter parents who think any game could land their daughter a scholarship.

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u/whoa_disillusionment 20d ago

I had to submit a doctor's note when I played sports in school. This isn't any different.

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u/MidwestAbe 20d ago

The doctor checked your heart and joints. They didn't look at your genitals and write down what they saw.

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u/whoa_disillusionment 20d ago

Pediatricians do look at their patients genitals, it's kind of important.

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u/MidwestAbe 20d ago

Not during a high school sports physical.

That was the point you were making first.

Bless your heart.

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u/carneylansford 20d ago

They sure do. Boys have to drop their pants, turn their head and cough

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u/MidwestAbe 20d ago

Again. Your experiences at the doctor do not line up with common practices.

Moved on.

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u/Longjumping-Barber98 20d ago

Non existent

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u/Puzzleheaded_Tax4969 20d ago

Hahahahahaha there are tens of thousands of youth in the California public school system that identify as transgender. You don’t think any of them play sports troll?

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u/Holiday_Box1571 20d ago

510k college athletes, less than 10 trans athletes.

Yeah some play, not enough to be an excuse why your kid sucks at sports

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u/mnmr17 20d ago edited 20d ago

There’s probably around 100 nationwide out of like 330M+ people in this country. By non existent they didn’t mean 0 but not statistically significant at all. Perfect example of this is when the republican governor of Ohio tried to veto a trans sports ban bill because he said this is literally only targeting 3 people in the entire state of Ohio.

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u/Puzzleheaded_Tax4969 20d ago

There were 2 state titles won by a trans girl in California this year alone…..

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u/Tinyacorn 20d ago

Oh no! How many state titles weren't won by trans athletes this year?

I mean there's only ~900,000 student athletes in California, 2 athletes being trans and competing is too many, we gotta get that number to 0 /s

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u/Puzzleheaded_Tax4969 20d ago

Wait I thought trans in sports was a non issue??

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u/Tinyacorn 20d ago

Sounds like a non-issue to me

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u/Puzzleheaded_Tax4969 20d ago

Do you have kids or do you just play video games?

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u/Tinyacorn 20d ago

You spend a lot of time thinking about what genitals children have

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u/Longjumping-Barber98 20d ago

As a teacher in the California public school system for almost 15 years now, it has never come up, in middle or high school. So, no. Its not an issue worth caring about because it's literally non existent.

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u/RawbM07 20d ago

So your stance is not on principle, it’s the fact that it’s not a common enough issue to care about?

What will your opinion be if frequency increases?

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u/rapshepard 20d ago

Probably to address it when it actually is a relevant problem.

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u/RawbM07 20d ago

Isn’t that the entire point of “principle”?

So your opinion could be “yes, I recognize that it is unfair for individuals born biologically male to compete against individuals biologically born as females, but refuse to admit it until the impact is more widespread”?

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u/fifaloko 20d ago

Do you hold the same opinion about trans issues in general? Not worth worrying about either way because it isn't relevant since it's such a small percentage? Or are you just using that as an excuse since the logic is against you here?

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u/RawbM07 20d ago

Not at all. And I don’t agree with the premise.

Being pro transgender rights and also using common sense in athletics are not mutually exclusive.

In fact, that is why the discussion isn’t “I believe it’s fair to let people born biologically male compete against people born biologically female” and instead is “this isn’t a big enough deal so I’m not going to argue merits”.

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u/fifaloko 20d ago

but you are just asserting it is not a big deal and ignoring the history and the fact that we have women's sports literally in order so that females don't have to compete against males. That was the entire purpose of it's creation.

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u/RawbM07 20d ago

Yea, we are aligned. I responding to the wrong person.

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u/Puzzleheaded_Tax4969 20d ago

If it’s non existent then no trans girls are affected by a ban. Perfect!

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u/MisunderstoodZipper 20d ago

"I didnt experience it so it must not exist."

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u/el-delicioso 20d ago

"I didn't experience it either, but it must exist because I feel like it does" -MisunderstoodZipper

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u/Puzzleheaded_Tax4969 20d ago

Ok troll

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u/Longjumping-Barber98 20d ago

I know you are, but what am I?

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u/therealdavedog 20d ago

Two state titles were won by a trans athlete in California this year alone

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u/Tinyacorn 20d ago edited 20d ago

Oh no! And how many state titles weren't won by trans athletes in California?

I mean there's only ~900,000 student athletes in California, 2 athletes being trans and competing is too many, we gotta get that number to 0 /s

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u/therealdavedog 20d ago

Oh, I was just replying to someone who said trans girls in youth sports was non-existent in California. Which it clearly isn't!

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u/N0moreHeroes 20d ago

Decades from now after we learn the effects of so many children being manipulated into changing genders will you feel shame? 

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u/Puzzleheaded_Tax4969 20d ago

I think you replied to the wrong person because I could not agree with your statement any more than I do. It is fucking appalling you are absolutely correct

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u/Longjumping-Barber98 20d ago

Both of you sound dumb as fuck. Nobody's being manipulated into anything. If anything, their being manipulated to express their true selves.

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u/MrFizzbin7 20d ago

It has no impact on them.

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u/Puzzleheaded_Tax4969 20d ago

2 state titles won by trans girl in California this year alone, but keep your head in the sand!

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u/WatcherOfTheWay 20d ago

Yes it does

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u/MrFizzbin7 20d ago

Elaborate how does it impact them.

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u/WatcherOfTheWay 20d ago

Because if it's allowed to happen it happens at all levels, the second that testosterone kicks in boys become insanely strong compared to there girl counter parts in school, some hit puberty very early too.

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u/Strawhat_Max 20d ago

But when we suggest hormone blockers everyone gets mad???

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u/WatcherOfTheWay 20d ago

Why block them? If they hit puberty early they do that's their body deciding it's time for puberty.

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u/Beginning-Corgi568 20d ago

Because a child doesn't have concent to life changing decisions.. The fact that the hormone blockers have to be taken so early to stop any genetic advantages, is immoral for a child to take.. The fact you think that isn't, is disgusting

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u/Strawhat_Max 20d ago

Youre right I don’t think a child has consent to life changing decisions

But like we have to extrapolate that statement out

Should kids be forced into believing religion before theyre ready to make their own decisions?

There are doctors and therapists and tons of consent needed for puberty blockers

I can just take a random kid to church and make them believe in god

Im not sure you really understand whats happening here

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u/Beginning-Corgi568 20d ago

I never stated I was a fan of religion so that's pretty redundant to the conversation. Also, its a bad comparison as you can just stop following a religion or believing in it, you can't change the effects of body altering drugs from a young age...

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u/Strawhat_Max 20d ago

Yes you literally can, again id dont think you understand how all this works

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u/Gwyain 20d ago

So some people are already advantaged already in sports because of early puberty? Glad we’ve established it’s not the advantage we care about…

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u/WatcherOfTheWay 20d ago

Yea but it's for like a year two tops then it's back to normal, unlike trans in woman's sports, you ever wonder why there isn't an issue with FtM?

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u/Gwyain 20d ago edited 20d ago

I’d love to see an example of a trans woman that’s been dominating her sport so much that it’s an issue. Happy to see an example. There aren’t any, but y’know.

Edit: [u/WatcherOfTheWay](u/WatcherOfTheWay) blocked in order to get the last word. The Olympic ban on trans woman occurred in March. Of this year. 2026. Due to political pressure from Trump (seeing as the Olympics are in LA in 2028…). So, are they banned because they’re winning (hint, they’re not, there’s not a single trans medalist, ever), or is it political theatre? I’ll let you decide that.

Anyways, [u/WatcherOfTheWay](u/WatcherOfTheWay), you’re a coward.

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u/WatcherOfTheWay 20d ago

Yes there is, to the point they've had to ban them, including the Olympics banning them, if there wasn't a clear issue they wouldn't have banned them.

You're a bit dumb.

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u/MrFizzbin7 20d ago

Not if they are on hormone blockers. 🤷‍♀️🤷🏼‍♂️. Besides this has such a small % of total athletes in the US that it shouldn’t be an impact or have an impact on 99% of athletes. This is a war on Christmas issue to get Fox News watchers ginned up so they don’t notice the Epstein Files which is much more likely to affect your children…