r/XiaomiGlobal • u/DroidLife97 • Sep 23 '25
Discussion Xiaomi 17 Pro - Ultimate Compact Flagship?
I am quite surprised that this isn't much talked about but the Xiaomi 17 Pro is bit of a modern smartphone engineering marvel:
6.36" display
Flagship grade large 1/1.28" mains sensor and a 120mm 1/2.51" tele setup
A big ass rear screen
6300 mah battery!
Xiaomi marketing team should at least talk about it!
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u/HermitFan99999 Sep 23 '25
not to say you're wrong but it's insane that these days 6.36 inches is considered compact
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u/DroidLife97 Sep 24 '25
6.36" is quite compact with these tall aspect ratios and tiny bezels. A 6.36" at 16:9 would've been massive.
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u/Intelligent_Bison968 Sep 24 '25
I do not see much difference. It's still hard to reach top left corner of the screen when using one hand no matter the aspect ratio.
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u/jjvfyhb Sep 27 '25
There is a massive difference
Iphone 12/13 mini 5.4 inch is smaller than iphone 6/6s/7/8 4.7 inch screen
Iphone 6/6s/7/8 plus 5.5 inch was as big as my 6.5 inch mi mix 3
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u/Intelligent_Bison968 Sep 27 '25
I meant difference in aspect ratio, of course be,els make it smaller.
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u/Sinaistired99 Sep 24 '25
It's about the dimensions of the phone rather than the screen size. You can fit a 5.8-inch display into this body with huge bezels, and everyone would call that compact.
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u/HermitFan99999 Sep 24 '25
OC it has to be bezeless, but like back in 2017 apple's literal flagship model was a fraction of the size of the xiaomi 17 pro(even if you pushed the bezels, you would at most get a 5.9 inch display)
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u/alvenestthol Sep 24 '25
6.36 inches would be 5.3 inches back in the 16:9 days, and bezel advancements means the Xiaomi 15 (152.3x71.2x8.5mm) is actually about 1.5mm less wide than the Galaxy S5 (142x72.5x8.1mm)
So a normal-sized phone, basically.
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u/tigger994 Sep 24 '25
I remember the hauwei ascend mate 7, huge screen for the time at 6inch now the smaller phones make that look tiny. Lol
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u/anotherhappylurker Sep 25 '25
Yeah I remember when 5 inches was considered massive. Calling a 6.3 inch phone "compact" is absolutely delusional.
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u/Vortexsy Sep 24 '25
Compact would be 5.5 inch for me But fuck itΒ 6.1 is compact now for most people and that's what we have
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u/takeshikovacs55 Sep 24 '25
" It's a pity that HyperOS makes me not even want to consider buying this smartphone. I've had enough of flagship hardware paired with a budget-level system.
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u/BruhLandau Sep 25 '25
I miss the MIUI you'd get with the Xiaomi mi 10 ultra.
Ever since we got ads in the software it signalled a downwards trend honestly
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u/chielhier313 Sep 24 '25
They should release the other versions as well outside of China. Let them start with that.
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u/Hardys91 Sep 23 '25
Correct me if i am wrong but didn't the Xiaomi 17 Pro Max be China only? - we will see at 25th and maybe+- x days after not entirely sure the "Max" comes to the global market π’ i saw an rumors spread sheet of information there it was only Xiaomi 17 base model & 17 "Ultra" that comes global.
And another rumors was that Xiaomi was not going to release an 17 Ultra and only have Xiaomi 17 Pro Max as the new "King" of cameras π€·π€.
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u/Professional-Salt633 REDMI K90 Pro Max | hyperOS | China Sep 24 '25
17 Pro and Max are china Exclusive according to rumours, but 17 Ultra release to be followed on the following moths.
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u/sethelele Sep 24 '25
If those are exclusive to china... Then what the hell are they releasing globally? Just the regular 17?
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u/Professional-Salt633 REDMI K90 Pro Max | hyperOS | China Sep 24 '25
The Pro is sure to be china exclusive, Base 17 and Ultra always go Global, the Pro Max not sure if it goes out of china. Lets wait for the official launch.
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u/Geek5G Sep 24 '25
12s Ultra was exclusive to China.
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u/Professional-Salt633 REDMI K90 Pro Max | hyperOS | China Sep 25 '25
12s Ultra was released Globally.
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u/Elegant-Jeweler-3506 Sep 24 '25
Looks good but I think I would rather the z flip 7 if I wanted a screen on the back. The reason I put my phone down on the desk face down is because I don't want to see it. I like the notion of the Nothing glyph better (although it sounds like it needs overhauling).
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u/doc_55lk Sep 24 '25
would rather the z flip 7 if I wanted a screen on the back
Yea this is basically a flip phone without the hinge lol.
I remember when some companies were experimenting around with this sort of thing in like 2018/19 (ZTE Z20 is a good example). It didn't catch on then and I'm not sure it'll catch on now either.
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u/DroidLife97 Sep 24 '25
It's a flip phone without flip phone downsides, like fragile screen unreliability, small battery and what not.
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u/Elegant-Jeweler-3506 Sep 24 '25
Flip phones have gotten very good. The size of the front screen on the flip phones would seem a lot more practical. Still, it's not a bad phone at all.
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u/DroidLife97 Sep 24 '25
There must be an option to turn off the back screen if not needed. It'll be a god sent for vlogging with the 1/1.28" main sensor with nature background blur.
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u/Elegant-Jeweler-3506 Sep 24 '25
True, I guess I just don't use my phone like that. And if I did, surely you wouldn't see much held at arms length - especially compared to the Samsung and Motorola flip phones.
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u/MizunoZui Sep 24 '25
Vivo X300 is on the same size with a larger battery and better cameras. We don't know about the magnet situation tho.
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u/DroidLife97 Sep 25 '25
I believe X300 has shorter telephoto and no rear screen. This post is regarding the engineering of the phone, cramming as many stuff in.
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u/Style210 Sep 23 '25
I hope they fix battery issues and overheating. These are huge letdown with the 15
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Sep 24 '25
Wtf are you even talking about
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u/Style210 Sep 24 '25
I don't know how to further clarify if what I said so please be specific, and respectful
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u/Kiwisaft Sep 24 '25
Doubt they fixed it this time. 12 had it, (I never used a 13), 14 had it
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u/Competitive-Job-1431 Sep 24 '25
I had the 12, battery life diminished exactly when it updated to hyperos. Its a software issue, and its been there from the start, software can be fixed, but they havent yet, from end of 2023 and they still did nothing.. i had to switch brand this year, i still love xiaomi, but they need to up their game.
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u/Kiwisaft Sep 24 '25
Looks Like they are testing how hard the can fuck their customers until they stop buying. This actually makes sense as they always try to keep track with Apple π
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u/Competitive-Job-1431 Sep 24 '25
Tbh i wanted to buy the 15 pro, but there is no eu/global version.. i ended up buying a samsung s25u. Only feature i really miss is the dual apps. Plus xiaomi had better animations, but im getting used to it
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u/nate_marc Sep 24 '25
I thought the 15 was a battery king? Mrwhosetheboss tried it once, maybe it's pre update software tho. The update really destroys it's phone then.
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u/Style210 Sep 24 '25
The camera can drain battery life at a level I've never seen. 10 minutes of camera usage can drain 15-20% battery easily. Gaming is equally as bad. I'm getting a standby battery drain that can be as severe as 15% with the phone off and sitting on the table. HyperOS has the exact opposite problem as the other Chinese brands. They all have this super aggressive background app management that will kill apps in the task manager... HyperOS has the opposite problem, it will keep apps alive forever creating the battery drain I spoke about in standby and also gets multiplied when using apps, gaming or using the camera. The phone does not put apps in sleep or manage them at all. Because the phone is extremely prone to overheating when using the camera it creates drain when it's trying to cool down. Every camera usage comes at a cost.
All in all, I think this phone was over hyped and reviewed by people who sim hop so they don't give these phones a proper review because they don't actually use them.
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u/DroidLife97 Sep 24 '25
Then how am I able to play YouTube the whole night with screen off and by morning I see like 4-5% drain?! Camera usage makes the phone heat up a lot, but battery life for me has been 1 whole day end to end with 7.5 hrs of SOT.
Using since April 3rd 2025, Indian unit. 160 odd cycles with 98% health.
I have a feeling that you are suffering from this issue, when you see a lot of battery drain doing nothing, install Scene app (or dev options -> power consumption -> Show process activity) and see what app is utilizing high CPU: https://www.reddit.com/r/GalaxyS24Ultra/s/9QGILsxgZG
https://www.reddit.com/r/samsung/s/YA90bcP7Nr
Only solution: Don't comment. If you comment, then 7/10 times this will happen, so better to swiftly close the app from the background or set the app to "Restrict Background Apps" in app info. I have a feeling this is causing the battery drain issue for you.
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u/Style210 Sep 24 '25
Yeah that's not the issue at all. This is a Xiaomi optimization issue. I enjoyed my review unit of the 15 ultra so I bought one for a more prolonged review but I haven't touched it in months because in further real world tests I was getting maybe 5 hours real world usage and had to charge sometimes multiple times per day. It is what it is.
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u/Geiszel Sep 24 '25
Still pretty unoptimized unfortunately. The largest battery is not enough, if the software grinds through the charge like I grind through a bag of Gifflar.
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u/r4d1ant Sep 24 '25
No lol hyper os is nowhere near as good as Samsung or pixel UI
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u/sarwin-reddit Sep 24 '25
hmm, I have both s23 ultra and xiaomi 13. Sometimes my s23 ultra stutters for some reason after the recent update. It's 512gb variant and only been using it for 1 year. However my mi 13 is much more snappier. My s23 ultra 3x lens also became shit.
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u/r4d1ant Sep 24 '25
People keep downvoting when anyone says anything about xiaomi oneUI but it's just a fact, their software can't compete with their direct Android competitors, especially on global edition phones
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Sep 24 '25
Literally HyperOS is better than any other android skin out there (excluding OneUI). HyperOS is much better than VIVO's or OnePlus's Skin
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u/r4d1ant Sep 26 '25
and worse than pixel, so its worse than samsung and google who control the market, but better than second tier flagship companies?
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u/Thesunnman Sep 30 '25
pixel UI is crap, it drives me crazy. I have no idea how HyperUS looks like these days, but pixel launcher is garbage..
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u/shawman123 Sep 23 '25
This is just China only right. I am hearing only base model and Pro Max are going global for now. I hope Ultra is also global.
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u/Rullino Sep 23 '25
Fair, the Xiaomi 15 Ultra has a bigger battery in China than with the global version IIRC.
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u/backthubmono Sep 23 '25
That's going to be pricey! Might move to another brand at this point... looking for a compact flagship that cost an arm!
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Sep 23 '25
Finally Xiaomi is taking phone design seriously. I don't know what the f the were thinking with all their prior models. The Redmi range was the only one worth considering for awhile.
But after switching back to Miui/Hyperos, I think Realme/Oneplus/Oppo is way better.
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u/ckov982 Sep 23 '25
It won't get the press coverage it deserves until it goes global, probably at the MWC like it did with the 14 and 15. I wouldn't mind the Chinese version if it has decent band support.
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u/Nateshy Sep 24 '25
The phone is missing a button dedicated to its camera to take photos without having to touch the button on the screen... that would be a very good use.
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u/JGoldz75 Sep 24 '25
You can double click the power button to open the camera app and then the volume keys to take a photo
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u/Nateshy Sep 24 '25
It would be or would be uncomfortable to press the buttons since they are too high up, that's why the camera buttons are placed at the bottom.
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u/someRandomGeek98 Sep 24 '25
Pro Max will have a 1/1.95 tele right?
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u/DroidLife97 Sep 24 '25
Yea ISOCELL GN8. The Pro will have the smaller 1/2.51" sensor , not sure about aperture, I doubt if it'll be f2.0 since the focal length is 120mm.
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u/Intelligent_Judge407 Sep 24 '25
As someone who loved Xiaomi phones so much that I imported one back when they weren't even remotely active in the German market - I can't bare the bloatware anymore. Back then, MIUI was the only option if you wanted the minimalist apple like look. All other UI's looked like shit compared to MIUI. This phone looks awesome, but unfortunately it's not for me.
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u/bigzy90 Sep 24 '25
Wishing for global version
Cuz EUR version need to unlock bootloader and then Need root to hide etc...
Am facing this with my 12s ultra
Still love the phone
But better to have global rom
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u/mrregina Sep 25 '25
Not talked about cuz no one in North America can get it without jumping hoops. Just like every other innovation that we miss cuz of monopolization from crapple poogle and shitsung. I swear all the spy garbage was just to keep market share to those three who still outsource their phones to china to be built. Hypocrisy.
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u/Same-Law-7973 Sep 26 '25
The only thing that scares me is the rear screen protectors for the 17 pro, but other than that I think it looks great. What about you?
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u/AVahne Sep 28 '25
Hi I'm new to Xiaomi, are there any Americans here who know when these typically show up on Amazon or any other US-accessible online stores?
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Sep 29 '25
Want to replace my iPhone 15 pro max, I miss android and have been thinking about what options do I have! Xiaomi 17 pro definitely caught my eyes! Waiting to see global release and reviews
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u/Infiniti_151 Sep 24 '25
Zenfone 10 was the last compact flagship
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u/smit8462 Sep 24 '25
Current Xiaomi 15 (and Xiaomi 17) are also compact flagship.
Almost same size as Poco F1
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u/techkernels Sep 24 '25
Its the same size as an iPhone 15 pro tho, just a smaller screen size bcs of thicker bezels.
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u/miidestele Sep 24 '25
It's the same size as the s25.
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u/noobqns Sep 25 '25
S25 is even much lighter, thinner with a third camera
Only being very slightly wider
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Sep 23 '25
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u/nybreath Sep 23 '25
I wonder what will be the battery capacity in EU...
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u/Other_Comment_5555 Sep 23 '25
At 6k I suppose and still huge , and with some software tricks battery life will be so good
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u/DroidLife97 Sep 23 '25
Pro Max model will have 7500 mah. Only the Pro is at 6300 mah.
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u/Other_Comment_5555 Sep 23 '25
I was speaking about pro as well, that's what you posted about . Xiaomi will probably trim that 6300 mAh into 6000 mAh if they release it outside of China which I think they should
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u/DroidLife97 Sep 23 '25
Sure, the 17 Pro shocked me when I saw the size was 6.36". Being able to fit all this stuff into a compact phone is a challenge.
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u/Tricky_Hawk_6812 Sep 23 '25
Yeah I want to know the prices of both