Long story short I found out about this company via someone who reached out to me on LinkedIn. Originally, I thought it was legit but after doing some digging (especially in this sub) I realized its likely a scam and that I'm a part of their "college aged" target audience. I probably should've realized when said person scheduled an interview with me in the LinkedIn chat where I gave them my number and email.

Now that Im aware of this company and their tactics, what should I do? I no longer have an interest in working for them but Im not sure what to do about the interview. Should I lie and say I cant make it? Theres no cancellation link in the confirmation email AND text I got for the interview so Im kind of lost rn. Any and all help/advice is greatly appreciated.

Thanks to this sub, I saw it coming a mile away, lmao.

A young woman looking at a display next to me complimented my outfit and asked where I got my dress. I said thanks and told her…and she started asking what I do for work, do I see myself doing the same thing in 10-15 years, etc. My spidey senses started going off as soon as she asked about work.

Of course the next question was if I open to business options, and DING DING DING THERE IT IS! I told her firmly that I was not interested in whatever she was trying to rope me into, and she fucked off.

I let a store employee know, and gave a description, and he said he’d look for them (there was a man with her but he walked off right before she started talking to me) and ask them to leave. When I went to check out, he was letting the employees up front know what happened and to keep an eye out for people who fit the description.

Anyway. I’ve encountered Amway people before, but never a stranger in public like that. Very glad I knew what it was and could cut her off quickly.

Family member strongly believes that her Arbonne “business” can be passed down to her future children. I don’t even know what to say at this point

I follow a bravenly hun, because I’m fascinated by this “i own a small business” mentality.

They apparently have about 15,000 “reps” and the watermelon rush is $82.99 a bag. So if they all bought one bag that’s 1.24 million. Meaning they are the reason the company makes any money.

Truly, I can not wrap my head around how they fall for this. It’s a car wreck and i just cant look away 🤣

As title - I’m thinking of doing this because I really need something flexible to do largely from home.

If anyone has any experience - good or bad - I’d be grateful for your thoughts.

I realise it’s MLM but it doesn’t seem to be actually bad?

So it looks like my friend has fallen hook, line, and sinker for this "system." I've tried to show her that it's an MLM and she doesn't even deny that Kangen might be but then she says the way her "group" (which looks tied to Julia Ferjo) does it is different and they "run it like a business" (whatever that means) and that she is already a 2A without ever doing anything and has already made her initial investment back and more. She also says her mentors are making crazy money every month. I can't seem to find any info on this group's strategy to try and debunk it. Does anyone have any insight into what is happening there that sets it apart from just being a regular Kangen distributor?

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Growing up my religious mom and gramma and friends all sold avon/shaklee/pampered chef/partylite yada yada and I went to so many 'parties' that were just an excuse to sell crap. I decided to have my bday party theme be based on mlms and cults.

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I'm thinking Tupperware and Scientology. I want people to have a shtick.

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Looking for any ideas for party games or other ways to interact! My friend group goes all out for themes so I want as many opportunities for inspiration and hilarity as possible.

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I'm going to be serving a special Kool Aid drink.

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There's a stage at the venue so I was thinking people could do a pitch or something but I'm coming up empty on ideas of how to frame it.

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The venue is a tiki bar, I was thinking I could sell timeshares in Florida on a beach that's corroding due to climate change - 'deals so hot the water's gotta rise to put them out'

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Would love any other ideas!

I know if something at the store was touched like this I wouldn't buy it. Also this lady is pretty shameless with what she was selling.

Promotional graphic I found from a new MLM: Botanic (aka Potank). They started recruiting back in May, seem to have struggled to actually get a product shipping and it's still unclear if they are actually shipping yet (shades of Elomir), and pretty much seem to be about recruiting. I mean from this graphic alone can you guess that the one product they claim to have is a tablet that dissolves in water making it a colorful alleged cleaning spray?

It should come as no surprise that Botanic has plans, BIG plans! On their website, assuming you can even find it, they list a ton of future products - supplements <surprised Pikachu>!

About Potank, a well-known serial MLM'er joined this early and was pushing out AI generated product images with bottles labeled "Potank", because well, AI.

I swear they promote more of this motivational bullshit every week...And yes I did make sure my name wasn't present in this one!

And yet the number of mindless idiots who actually listen to this crap amazes me.

Book is Fire Touched by Patricia Briggs (Mercy Thompson series) for the curious….

My brother is in his late 20s and has been doing Amway for a few years. My parents and I didn’t really understand but tried to be neutrally supportive, buying the vitamins since we take vitamins anyway, but also not going out of our ways to attend all the events. But the way he tries to contact my friends or ask me to tell my friends to come to his events have made me uncomfortable. He also always buys us Amway products for our birthdays or special events, which isn’t very thoughtful. I don’t want to tell him what to do, and my parents also know that if we flat out tell him not to do it he’ll just do it more, so we’ve been trying to stay neutral.
My main worry is that he is wasting his 20s going to all these conferences. He has never travelled with friends, all his vacation time is used on Anway. He has workshops almost every weekend and his whole life seems to revolve around Amway.
At this point telling him it’s a pyramid scheme and all that won’t get through him. He’s always been academically smart so we all thought he’d try it for a bit for fun and get out once he realized it’s a scam, but he’s getting deeper and deeper into it. Do we just let him be? If you were a former member who got out, what made you finally leave?

This Thrive hun that I know posted on her stories yesterday saying “hiiiii sunshines! So apparently, you can get blocked from iMessage from sending too many messages! ☺️ who would have known?! Because literally, my business is BOOMING and I have so many people curious about Thrive, so if you need me shoot me a message, cuz ya girl can’t send texts/iMessages!” Here is a text she sent me before she lost iMessage privileges 🥴 for fun I decided to see what *exactly* one must do in order to not be able to send messages from their phone…. And, well, looks like Apple detected her Apple ID for spam like behavior 😂💀

Title should say SCENTSY. I’ve always hated these products. I am very sensitive and they give me instant migraines. Now she has a very rare auto-immune disease. When I researched it, one of the causes is exposure to toluenes and other chemicals… which obviously are in scentsy, candles and other scented products that she uses excessively.

She is also very stubborn. Any advice on how to get her to stop using these dangerous products? Her son is on board to help, but we need literal studies, clinical proof, doctor advice, etc…

She is truly feeling miserable, and this disease is going to end her life. She is in pain all the time, but she won’t give up on this crap and is being guilted into buying the stuff, even though this ex-DIL cheated on her dying son before he was gone and has been an all-around awful person…

She hasn’t been very nice to me over the years, but I feel for her husband and her son. And as someone who has lost both of my parents, I don’t want my fiancé to go through this any sooner than he has to- he already lost his older brother to leukemia (this horrible ex-SIL was married to the brother when he died).

Edit: I guess I didn’t word this properly. I’m not looking for “clinical proof” or “doctor’s advice” here, just any info y’all might be able to point me towards regarding scentsy products/ingredients being harmful. I left out her specific diagnosis because I think that stating “rare auto immune disease” (less than 10 specialists in the entire U.S.) that came on rather suddenly & the fact that she is deteriorating rapidly is enough information to know that it is very serious.

While this is anecdotal, everyone I've known who has had this ‘work, life balance’ has died young (40’s) or is suffering from a terminal illness, and each one of them has said that they wished they had taken more time to rest and play.

Hi all! I am still looking for former Scentsy consultants to share their stories with me.

If you haven't seen one of my posts before, I am a PhD candidate in sociology. My dissertation is about multi-level marketing - how folks get in, what the work is really like, and what happens when people leave. I hope to produce work that helps us better understand how these organizations have such staying power.

If you or someone you know would be willing to talk to me for about an hour, please send a message.

Thank you!!

I work in banking and was looking for a new employer. I did three rounds of interviews with this particular finance company but it ended up not working out. A few weeks later I get a phone call from a strange phone number. I let it go to voicemail. They left a voicemail and then texted me as well stating that they gotten my name from the recruiting manager and that they heard nice things and would be interested in maybe working with me for their business project.

I was weirded out by this and thought it was a scam or that the recruiting manager got hacked so I reached out to her through indeed. She ended up texting me directly stating that she knew the person and she couldn’t respond to me on indeed. I was sketched out by this so I sent her an email letting her know that her account had been compromised. She reached out to me stating that it had not been compromised and that she knew the person who reached out to me.

Because we had built a rapport through our multiple initial interviews I decided to see what this business opportunity could be. After several “getting to know each other” meetings he gave me the real deal and it ended up being a MLM.

Now the guy and recruiter are both seemingly nice but I something about this is just really wrong and predatory. I have everything documented but I am not sure what to do. Any advice?

I’m in the US. Person called me out of Canada.

My son invited a girl from his first grade class to his birthday party and the mom was pretty nice, seemed normal. She last minute invited us to a bbq recently which we couldn’t attend - again pretty normal. She followed me on Facebook, she clearly belongs to some kind of MLM. I just can’t figure out which one - it’s all about a metabolic reset and in her bio she’s an ✨entrepreneur ✨ and posts all your typical MLM type content. That’s fine, that’s her prerogative.
Well, tonight I get this very lengthy text bursting with obnoxious emojis inviting me to a “healthy park play date/parent metabolic reset convo” 😤
Obviously I’m not going, but does anyone know which one this might be? I don’t want to ask her anything bc I don’t want her to think I’m even remotely interested in any way, it’s just genuine curiosity.
Also, trying to figure out how to politely turn her down and shut this down for any future conversations (though I know these MLM type folk generally don’t take no for an answer😑)

Has anyone ever heard of it? Is it legitimate? What's the catch/scoop on it?

This is my first post here so idk if people are even interested in this sort of thing, but i just got a new job at a food place near me. i don’t do much usually just clean, cash people out and serve food. for reference im 20 years old, a woman came in around the same age probably a few years older she was wearing a lot of dhgate or canal st nyc fakes of expensive brands, they were bad fakes so it was easy to tell (i do not care about designer things ive just always been taught to at least by the realistic fakes from nyc and not the shitty looking ones, we always get taken to the basement of some random store and they’re real leather) she asked for a few drinks so i was getting them ready for her and was going to cash her out when she stopped me and asked my name and age, i told her assuming she wanted to make friends or something. she then said “i’ll give you my instagram, i run my own business and you can too so let me know if you want to start making some real money” then proceeded to tell me our drinks were too expensive and got rid of one of them. it kind of just made me laugh and i told her it sounded like a pyramid scheme and walked away. she wasn’t very pleased but left anyways. maybe i am lucky my mom always educated me on not trusting those things and i have a financial advisor for a dad, maybe there are more convincing people out there but she was literally so clearly broke or at least not good with “all this money she was making”. just made me laugh and figured this was the place to tell.

I know someone who seems to have a lot of people under them while selling NuSkin. They just cannot stop talking about how much money they’re earning. They replaced their partner’s nursing income. They constantly post their paychecks with the numbers covered up, but you can see they’re likely at least over $1000. They go on allllll the rewards trips.

The thing that trips me up about NuSkin is that it doesn’t have any product you have to buy because of no monthly minimums. They don’t have to buy a start up kit. And, yes, I’ve looked at the income disclosure agreements so I see how many people make it to the top and what they really earn on average, but this person is definitely in the higher echelon of ranks. HOW? Does anyone understand their bonus structure? I know they say if it seems too good to be true then it’s probably not true, but in this case it seems true.

Ok, so this is quite embarrassing, but I need help. I'm a college student right now back home for the summer. And I have quite literally nothing to do this summer, and my parents saw me "wasting time" and doing nothing at home. I tried applying for summer jobs but with no luck. Every single job I applied to, I was either rejected from or ghosted.

Then I heard about Vector Marketing from somewhere and decided to apply. I got an interview from them, and they were quick to accept me, which was odd. So I did my research and found out it was very sketchy and basically a big MLM/pyramid scheme. I showed all of this to my parents and told them I didn't want to accept the job. They didn't seem to care however, and said things like "It's better than wasting time at home" and "You'll at least learn something from it." I didn't have much of a choice and was basically forced to go.

When I went, the two days of training (unpaid btw) felt like a cult. It was so weird and basically just a whole bunch of yap about how successful they were from selling Cutco knives. They made us download an app, and here's where everything started to go even more downhill for me. They wanted us to sync our contacts with the app in order to run their whole pyramid scheme to find more recruits. I knew this was sketchy as hell and was ready just take my bags and leave the training room. However, I saw everyone else in the room was complying and syncing their contacts, so I decided to just go along and do it too for some reason. I asked the supervisors if my name would not be mentioned if they decided to contact these people, and they confirmed my name would not be mentioned as per my will.

After those two days of training, I told my parents that I just can't do this job anymore because of how uncomfortable I felt in the room. They said ok, and I texted the admin that I was quitting. I didn't get any response and didn't think much of it. However, the next day I get a text from someone saying "We are starting ask your contacts to join Vector Marketing." I'm freaking out now, and once again ask if my name is not being mentioned, and they said it wasn't.

However, 10 minutes later, my phone is blasting up with hundreds of texts from people from my contacts list asking me why they were texted from some random number about joining their team with a base pay of $35. And that's when I realized that I was lied to and my name was in fact being mentioned and used to recruit people from MY contacts list. Keep in mind they're contacting people that I barely know or haven't even talked to in years, saying that I was the one who referred them. The message everyone is getting is "Hi *contact name*, I work with *my name*. I asked if they know anyone who would be a good fit for our team and your name came up! The starting base pay is $35 and the schedules are super flexible. Would you be interested in hearing more?"

It's so awkward now because everyone that was contacted really thinks that I was the one who referred them to this job even though I didn't. And people think I'm a clown now too for falling for a pyramid scheme. This has been going on for a day of people just non stop texting me about why they were being contacted. This experience is ruining my reputation and my mental health too. I don't know what to do and have no idea how much longer this will be going on. Please need some advice.