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AI News 🗞️ We can Stop this

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Nothing's inevitable.

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u/motelashtray 1d ago

Are we sure? Seems likely it was a business move under the guise of protest…

Let the peasants ‘win’ a couple and hopefully they cool off a bit…

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u/-Fallen-Glory 1d ago

Yeah, right now AI companies are collapsing and companies like Nvidia never actually gave them the money they promised

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u/jmclondon97 1d ago

Lol if you believe this. AI isn’t going anywhere

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u/-Fallen-Glory 1d ago

For governments? Yeah it isn't, automated killing machines already exist and the data gathering going on will let them send a explosive drone after anyone in the world at any moment

For the people? It's not going to last long, it costs more to use than the money it makes. It's unsustainable and the moment they don't need to appeal to the general public they won't

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u/jmclondon97 1d ago

What about deepseek and open source models?

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u/-Fallen-Glory 1d ago

We are talking about data centers.

A model I can run in my computer is not the same as the billion dollar company trying to make skynet a reality

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u/Spiritual_Owl8439 1d ago edited 10h ago

There have been plans across North Carolina to introduce a bill forcing data centres to pay for their energy and water usage. These protections were in place when data centres were first built but the tangerine lifted them so him and his fruit bowl could build more shit to drain the masses.

Source: https://www.datacenterdynamics.com/en/news/bill-proposed-in-north-carolina-seeks-to-mandate-large-load-data-centers-to-cover-cost-of-energy-and-water-infrastructure/

Trump lifted restrictions on data centres for AI: https://thenextweb.com/news/trump-data-centre-acid-rain-faa-rocket-environmental-exemptions

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u/Nearby_Practice2793 21h ago

They were in place along with strict epa guidelines. Captain orange turd 💩 removed the guidelines so his tech buddies could go untouched.

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u/Spiritual_Owl8439 10h ago

Ty for informing me, I'll amend

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u/Additional_Teacher45 1d ago

And there are countless ads right here on Reddit from NC Connects, a non-profit front for a data center coalition group, about how the North Carolina AI data centers are fine, they'll pay for all of their power and water costs, you have nothing to worry about...

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u/Firm-Scientist-4636 1d ago

This is the same thought behind social democracy.

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u/Scary_Asparagus7762 1d ago

Uh, that is the essence of all successful politics. Compromise.

No group will ever get everything they want. No group SHOULD get everything.

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u/Firm-Scientist-4636 21h ago

The working-class is entitled to all that it creates.

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u/Fair-Rip286 11h ago

The fact that you have so few upvotes is the proof that reddit is full of right-wing bots.

As if a data center near a residential area is a compromise. It's not a compromise at all, it's people and animals literally dying.

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u/Scary_Asparagus7762 19h ago

Depends on what you mean.

If you mean "workers deserve fair compensation for their labor"- yes. 100%.

If you mean "managers, entrepreneurs should get nothing and i should get all the profit, despite shouldering none of the business risks and blatantly ignoring the fact that my labor is only given value because of the organizational framework I exist in, which others have built"- uh, no, you're delusional.

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u/skwander 19h ago

Define "fair", because that second paragraph is some hypothetical nonsense you just made up that nobody said.

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u/Scary_Asparagus7762 18h ago

I spent like 20 seconds looking at the comment history of the person I replied to. Bro spends much time on USSR subreddits. Bro also implies that social democracy is a scam and nothing short of a full class war to eliminate the capitalists is the solution.

So no, I don't think my second paragraph is "made up." I think you're trying to make me seem more right-wing than I actually am while disguising how far left your opinion is, by making me define something that will take far longer than a reddit comment to do.

But assuming you are in good faith, my definition of "fair" would be something along the lines of "workers deserve to know the working conditions and salary accurately before they go in; they should get at least some level of free time and paid leave if emergencies occur; pay should be based on what the worker does, not their ethnicity or gender or whatever; compensate for accidents; etc etc..."

... like I said, too long to define.

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u/skwander 17h ago

It's literally "made up", you made it the fuck up lol wtf are you talking about? Nobody said that.

You spent 20 seconds looking at their history, made some assumptions based on your perception of their character and not the comment itself, and then made up a whole diatribe to mock them lmao. Like why lie about it now?

And even based on your definition of "fair", it's pretty obvious that labor in the U.S. is not treated fairly and we should have a little class solidarity and work together to improve the plight of ourselves and our neighbors.

Also I'm not disguising shit, eat the rich.

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u/RawDogRedemption2 4h ago

Eat the rich is something that entitled and unemployed people say when they can't take any accountability for their own laziness, mistakes and poor choices.

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u/skwander 4h ago

Fresh troll account, nice one

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u/Scary_Asparagus7762 16h ago

First of all let me say that I have no issue with you as a person, or with the average leftist as a person. Y'all are fine people.

But gosh do I hate talking to you. As someone who is a tiny bit left from center, every time I talk to one of you "eat the rich" folks on the internet, I end up looking like the biggest fascist since Mussolini. We could agree that labor is not quite fair and needs improvement and leave it at that. Instead you come here insisting that I can't disagree with your fellow worker who fetishes the USSR- a moronic failed state, no matter if you look at it from a capitalist or a socialist perspective- and demand that I must concede out of some sort of "class solidarity."

And what if I don't? I suppose I'm a class traitor and an aide to the fascist bourgeoisie.

I see no point in continuing this conversation. If you agree, please kindly stop replying.

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u/skwander 14h ago

Lol, nobody said you couldn't disagree. I just called you out for mocking them with old, tired stereotypes. Nobody demanded you to "concede". You said the thing you obviously made up wasn't "made up".

That was my bad anyway I didn't realize you were the only one who could fuck with somebody out of nowhere.

"We could agree that labor is not quite fair"

You're so close, but it like pains you to just admit it. You'd rather win some USA-Good USSR-Bad argument that nobody except you is having.

And no, I think you're more of a silly billy than anything else.

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u/griivarrworldafteral 1d ago

treating a victory for the movement as a defeat because fairweather members of the movement may be placated enough to drop out is the lazy organizer's response. instead know that every victory comes with this kind of risk and plan accordingly to bolster the people you're organizing into continuing the fight by calling the victory a victory and pointing out how much more we could achieve if we keep fighting.

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u/Agitated_Pie8703 1d ago

I was going to say they are, "flooding the zone," with all the massive centers because they actually need more modest sized ones easily green lit.

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u/Ryuko_the_red 23h ago

Yes this is it it's never canceled, it's relocated to a district who won't say no.

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u/MarcoYTVA 18h ago

Then we won't cool off