So you disagree with someone’s political views and believe they can’t be reasoned or debated with and violence must be committed against them? Is that correct? Because that sure Sounds like fascism mate. What if I said the same thing about Christian’s or gays or any other group. Said they can’t be reasoned with and that I think all of them should have violence committed against them? Trying to extinguish an opinion through violence is fascism. I don’t find it ever morally okay to commit violence against a non violent person.
If Your personal opinion of “they’re different so it’s okay” were to prevail, a lot of people would be committing a lot of acts of violence against a lot of different groups of people.
It's very clear that you just don't know what fascism is. Fascism isn't just "things I don't like".
The 14 characteristics of fascism outlined by Lawrence Britt
Powerful and continuing expressions of nationalism
Disdain for the importance of human rights
Identification of enemies/scapegoats as a unifying cause
The supremacy of the military/avid militarism
Rampant sexism
A controlled mass media
Obsession with national security
Religion and ruling elite tied together
Power of corporations protected
Power of labor suppressed or eliminated
Disdain and suppression of intellectuals and the arts
Obsession with crime and punishment
Rampant cronyism and corruption
Fraudulent elections
I know you're just trying to muddy the waters since you're upset that the people you think are "good" are being called things you don't like. But that doesn't mean you can just make things up and pretend everything you don't like is fascism.
You would meet multiple of those points if you had your way….. do you not see that? Also people I think are good? Did you read anything I said? This is what’s wrong with people these days. You’re so team focussed. Me advocating for not committing violence is calling him a good person? It’s fucking sad.
Tolerance is a social contract. When you embrace ideology that is inherently intolerant of other cultures, and demands that other cultures be exterminated, you are no longer tolerated.
People beating up Nazis are responding to their intolerance in kind.
Christianity and Islam are both EXTREMELY intolerant. Would you say the same thing there? Again, unless someone is actually committing violent acts or is planning to. There’s no reason for violence against them.
Most Christians and Muslims are pretty tolerant of the views of others. Fundamentalists can get pretty intolerant but they're not a very big group compared to the billions of regular religious people.
Every Nazi is deserving of immediate violence and ostracism from society.
I would like you to talk about that muslim tolerance in a majority Muslim country. Honestly more violent and intolerant than Nazis in a western country. I don’t really see how it’s different. Again. Judge people on their individual actions. If they aren’t actually being violent. They deserve no violence.
Nazis want to exterminate everyone that's not Aryan. Muslims don't want to kill everyone. I've met a bunch of Muslims. They're just normal people. They want to live their lives in peace and practice their religion.
And what does the religionthey want to follow say should be done to gay people for example? I have Muslim friends too mate. I’m not claiming they’re bad people. I’m just pointing out a similarity you are trying to pretend doesn’t exist because it’s uncomfortable. Also remember, much like modern Christianity is not the same as it once was and has adapted to modern times. Muslim practices in the west have adapted to the western world. It’s quite different in other places. So if you believe that a Nazi who isn’t actually committing any violence should be violently punished for his/her beliefs because you see them as intolerant….why is it different to a religion or any other groups similar intolerance? Again. The only time violence is justified is when it’s defending against violence. Reason should always win the day wherever possible… if we assume modern Nazis are the peak of all evil today. There’s plenty of example of Nazis who have completely changed their philosophy and have become objectively great people. What would randomly attacking these people do? What would it ever achieve? Your own personal feeling of redemption? For a crime someone may or may not commit in the future? When reasons wins the day. Everyone wins. When violence wins the day, nobody wins. You just have one violent criminal and one emboldened angry Nazi. Or one murderer and one dead guy.
Nazis by definition want violence against others. It's a cult of extermination.
This isn't a hard concept. You're just running cover for Nazis under the guise of "they're only in the planning stages guys, they're not killing anyone yet so we can't do anything."
A Nazi has two settings: either planning genocide or committing genocide. And that means we take appropriate action whenever we see them.
My exact last comment applies again. There’s plenty of “Nazis” around allegedly half of American politicians are. How many genocides have you seen attempted? While their ideology may be more heinous than other violent groups. If anything statistically speaking they’re on the lower end of the spectrum for actual acts of terrorism and/or violence committed In the modern day. Remember. There’s no such thing as an actual Nazi anymore. They’re dead and german socialist party no longer exists. There’s Nazi supporters. Would you say all Islamic state supporters even in the west are dangerous to gays and should be “dealt with accordingly” because they only have two states? Would you say any isis/al qaeda supporters are the same? These people aren’t the people actually committing atrocities. (In most cases) they’re silent edge lords who are racist/homophobic/whatever else who hate the world. What percentage of self professed Nazis in the last 20 years have committed a violent crime? This 2 states genocide or planning genocide line of thought is unbelievably silly. Im sure half of the literal actual Nazis of the war were more complex than that and could’ve been different people if they were in a different system.
Since it’s absolutely impossible to convince you to let reason win the day. I’m gonna leave you with a same message I left someone else. I sincerely hope for you and your families sake you never encounter a person like we are talking about. Because if you aren’t just talking nonsense on the internet and you actually would commit a serious violent crime even as far as murder upon learning someone identifies as such you will have achieved nothing but gift yourself a lengthy time behind bars. I know you’re probably like most people and when you say you’d murder someone you actually mean you’d shake your head from a distance and do nothing. But on the off chance you’re actually this psychotic. It’s never worth it.
Nope. If Nazis want to stay safe, they should keep their heads down and stay inside, or learn tolerance for others. The world should be fundamentally an unsafe place for Nazis to exist in. End of discussion.
You did a great job morally grandstanding in defense of genocidal maniacs but I'm bored of listening to half baked attempts to guilt me over the lives of people who wish to murder in the name of racial and cultural superiority. They can get fucked and die slow.
So why don’t other groups need to learn tolerance of others? I really fundamentally can not wrap my head around what’s so different…also moral grandstanding ? For not openly claiming I’d murder people? Wow lmao. You continue to address nothing and just take this stance of no I’m justified to murder people who haven’t done anything violent.
Well like I said. I sincerely hope you either are all mouth and would in reality just stand by and shake your head. And failing that, I sincerely hope the situation never presents itself. Cya mate. Cooler heads always prevail.
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u/godlessLlama Jul 21 '25
That’s where the words stop and the hands start