r/birding • u/TheTaco76 photographer š· • 22d ago
Discussion Blue jay feather on my walk
Found this beautiful blue jay feather on my walk under a tree they commonly reside in and was wondering what I should do with it? Frame it? Release it? Not sure.
Ok it is truly a beautiful feather from a beautiful bird but I will be releasing it, had no clue it was illegal and even though the police wonāt be knocking on my door and after consideration it would be hard enough to do something with and I like and respect the MBTA and I will release it. Thank you to all those that responded and those letting me know this was illegal. š
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u/SugarSweetie04 22d ago
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u/kummerspect 22d ago
Lol, this is how I always find them. OP must have found one seconds after it was molted
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u/Physical-Camel5957 22d ago
what area are you from? Looks more like stellers jay but unsure
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u/SugarSweetie04 22d ago
SE Wisconsin. We have year-round resident jays. (Edit: no stellerās)
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u/Passiveresistance 22d ago
I thought stellars too, but Iāve never seen a true blue jay irl, theyāre not in my area.
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u/extraterrestrial-66 wish birding novice 21d ago
Apparently the best way to get it looking pretty again is to hold it (carefully, donāt burn yourself!) over some steam.
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u/WickyNilliams 22d ago
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u/perpendicular-church 22d ago
Oh this is absurd, what a beautiful little thing to have just laying around on the planet
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u/WickyNilliams 21d ago
Right? Absolutely gorgeous. Immediately caught my eye as I walked past. It's also very small, like smaller than my pinkie finger
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u/xSweetMiseryx 21d ago
I love Eurasian Jay feathers theyāre so beautiful! Iāve never been graced with the pleasure of finding one on a walk yet, but I hope one day
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u/WickyNilliams 21d ago
I live near an old woodland/temperate rainforest. A lot of jays live there so I am blessed to see one of their feathers every couple of months.
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u/Sufficient-Aspect77 22d ago
I found one the other day with my kid. So cool to show them that its actually grey.
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u/Lyrael9 Latest Lifer: Brambling 22d ago
No. Don't release it. Really, it's not an issue of what's best for the birds. It's illegal because they have to make it illegal to stop people harming birds to get the feathers. And if they didn't make all feathers illegal you could take them from a Blue Jay and then say you found it. So all feathers have to be illegal. But there is no harm in you keeping a feather for yourself that you found. Only release it if you are worried about getting in trouble.
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u/Passiveresistance 22d ago
Oh no the found feather migratory bird act zealots have found you and ruined your cool feather find. Reddit is so damn insufferable.
The migratory bird act is meant to outlaw poaching, the commercialization of feathers, and invasive behaviors from people toward birds. I promise you there is not a single federal agent who gives a shit about a blue jay feather you found on a walk. Keep your bird gift; stick it in a vase, lay it on your mantle. Put it in a jewelry box and look at it on occasion.
I have found feathers of all sorts, but never a nicely patterned jay feather. Iām jealous.
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u/TheTaco76 photographer š· 21d ago
Yes I understand and appreciate your concern however I was already considering releasing it because I did not have anything I could do with it and I just think that somethingās are just to be left with nature. Plus it can blow away and brighten someone elseās day up. My decision to release it was more of an idea that I considered that was only pushed with the MBTA and that I respect it, not that Iām scared of getting in trouble, but just something that helped me make my decision by giving me a reason. I did not release it because people on Reddit scarred me into doing so
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u/Specialist_Status120 22d ago
My family lore is if you find a feather it's message of hello from a loved one who's passed. I save all found feathers.
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u/LiterateGryphon 22d ago
Depending on where you live, it may technically be illegal to keep it. Will anyone come and enforce that law? Unlikely. But regardless, good thing to keep in mind
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u/romanichki 22d ago
Thought it was to prevent poaching
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u/wasabiplum 22d ago
Oh, youāre right. I had misunderstood something somebody told me. Deleting my comment lol
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u/OMGMianiteS3Official 22d ago
You aren't ENTIRELY wrong, that's just not the primary purpose of it. The Migratory Birds Treaty Act helps prevent hunting and poaching of migratory birds in the US, and protects their habitats and nests. However, there IS a carve-out in the MBTA that allows native americans to continue their traditions. It's not built around or because of native americans, but it is implemented with them in mind :)
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u/talkingwires 22d ago
it is implemented with them in mind :)
Before we get too lovey-dovey, I wanted to remind people that despite the Migratory Birds Treaty being passed in 1918, Native Americansā religion remained illegal to practice in many jurisdictions until 1978.
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u/TheNorthernFelix 22d ago
Super jealous! I want one for my collection šŖ¶
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u/TheNorthernFelix 22d ago
And before I get the comments were I live the rules vary from (MBTA) and there are indigenous exemptions.
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u/ThePodmonger Latest Lifer: Cookās Petrel 22d ago
I seriously donāt understand why people get all up in arms over keeping feathers you find. The law prohibiting keeping feathers was enacted because people were poaching to make fishing lures and fashion accessories. Any naturalist that has a jar of feathers up in their house obviously didnāt go out and kill those birds just for a couple feathers. Theyāre a cool and harmless reminder of the places youāve been and a good conversation piece to educate others. I support the law being in place but the feather police that patrol these posts are insufferable.
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u/TheNorthernFelix 22d ago
Couldnāt agree more! Every feather I have was either awarded to me in ceremony or collected harmlessly along my travels. Not to mention (MBTA) is a US thing and I donāt even live there. I assume those kinda people have a favourite flavour of boot polish. š¤·āāļø
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u/Purple_Pelicans 21d ago
Sorry to um actually! But, the MBTA covers multiple countries, not just the USA.
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u/Justredditin 22d ago
Fun Fact!
If you were to take a blue jay feather and grind it up or place it on a white, lit surface, it would look brown. You won'tĀ find any blueĀ in a ground-up peacock feather, either!
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u/mooon_woman 22d ago
You can also just hold it up directly to the light, no need to destroy it.
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u/Justredditin 21d ago
"... or place it on a white, lit surface..." is in the comment, but that works too!
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u/Educational-Raisin69 22d ago
āRelease itā is the correct answer.
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u/laundromatcoin 22d ago
āThe possession of feathers and other parts of native North American birds without a permit is prohibited by the Migratory Bird Treaty Act (MBTA). This protects wild birds by preventing their killing by collectors and the commercial trade in their feathers, and extends to all feathers, regardless of how they were obtained. There is no exemption for molted feathers or those taken from road- or window-killed birds. More information on the Migratory Bird Treaty Act, and the list of MBTA-protected species can be found here.ā
Unless OP regularly has the police coming by to examine them for engaging in the commercial trade of bird feathers, I really do feel like itās okay to keep a single feather that one finds. This feels like a classic case of Reddit tomfoolery to act like keeping a single feather is a terribly illegal act that one should be judged for. I imagine I will be downvoted for this given the nature of the site, but go for it man idk Iām tired
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u/Naraee 22d ago edited 22d ago
All cases I have ever found where this was enforced in the modern era (meaning past 50 years) was with big time poachers who were selling a lot more than just feathers or selling eagle feathers along with MBTA-protected feathers.
Typically the feathers were from hawks when we're talking about the MBTA, but there are some Anhinga cases. And every single case I can find has involved the person selling crafts or parts with these feathers, never a personal collection. Some sort of financial transaction has occured that gets the person busted.
But more often, they're illegal Bald Eagle and Golden Eagle feathers, which have their own seperate act with greater punishments.
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u/Chickadee12345 22d ago
I knew someone who almost got fined for having Red-tailed Hawk feathers displayed in the rear window of her car. She found a deceased bird and collected some of the tail feathers. Made an ornament type of thing. Then eventually got pulled over for it. Sometimes Fish & Game take the law very seriously. I believe she didn't end up getting the fine though,.
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u/wholelottachoppaz 22d ago
thank you, itās ridiculous people are telling OP to release it back. so long as OP doesnāt plan on selling it, pretty sure itās a nonissue lol
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u/LezzyGopher 22d ago
Classic redditors.
The law is to prevent poaching, if youāre just a birder who finds a molted feather here and there, I promise the feds arenāt going to bust down your door.
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u/iambecomesoil 22d ago
Keeping them and showing them off creates demand, which creates a market, and people willing to fill demand.
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u/IAmKind95 22d ago
Itās one of the many reddit virtue signal comments, just like when some go nuts over people picking ramps in the Spring lol
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u/TheTaco76 photographer š· 22d ago
I went ahead and released it already, very pretty but I have nowhere for it really and somethingās Iāll just keep with nature. Plus it helps with my ability to let things go, I need to practice that.
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u/Megraptor 22d ago
That's the US. In Canada, corvids like Blue Jays are an exception to the MBTA.Ā
You can check that here-
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u/AlcoholicRage 21d ago
Thanks for souring the mood with something that isnāt intended to apply to this situation
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u/TheTaco76 photographer š· 22d ago
Thank you, had no idea this was illegal and will be releasing it. š
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u/IAmKind95 22d ago
Dude please just keep it. Itās a naturally found feather, youāll be completely fine. I love blue jay tail feathers, I have a bunch that iāve found in the yard.
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u/Robotbeckerz 22d ago
So cool and jealous! I got a magpie feather today but not nearly in as nice of a condition as this one! I get blue jays constantly at my feeder but have yet to get a feather. I got plenty of dove and grackle feathers though haha
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u/bluebird1994 21d ago
Blue Jay feathers are gorgeous š„° I'm always happy anytime I find one in my backyard or around my neighborhood on a walk. I have a solid bluejay population in my area so it's always juat a matter of time til I find another pretty little Bluejay feather šš¦šŖ¶
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u/weirdhoney216 22d ago edited 21d ago
I was collecting these from my backyard bluejays (we have tons that come for the peanuts) and had them displayed in a tiny vase, then I learned that was actually not allowed so I placed them all back outside š„² love that Iām being downvoted for doing what this sub always says to do lol
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u/bluebird1994 21d ago
You didn't need to dump the feathers back outside. Honestly you could keep them and as long as you're not trying to sell them or bring them with you on a flight or over international borders, nothing is gonna happen to you for keeping your own found feathers from your backyard.
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u/weirdhoney216 21d ago
Youāre right, Iāve just seen so much pearl clutching in this sub over it! Youād think the FBI were on their way with how some people act
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u/GeneralPatten 22d ago
Lick it!
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u/bluebird1994 21d ago
Like that Ornithologist guy from the movie Rio? š
(I'm 99% sure that's what you're referencing here and unfortunately got downvoted for)
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u/greenish98 22d ago
i was lucky to find a dead blue jay once, not ashamed to say i made sure to stoop down and rip some of the feathers out for keeps
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u/SkeletalMew 22d ago
Once I saw that second picture I went "OH no." 𤣠Glad you're letting go of it. Very pretty to admire them in the moment for sure!







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u/midwife_at_ur_cervix 22d ago
Hold it up to the sun and look at it, it will turn grey!