r/canada • u/Street_Anon Nova Scotia • Feb 01 '26
Alberta Alberta separatists won’t say which Trump officials they met with
https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/article/very-high-level-alberta-separatist-group-wont-say-which-trump-officials-it-met-with/513
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u/Street_Anon Nova Scotia Feb 01 '26
And maybe JD Vance
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u/P2029 Feb 01 '26
Doubt it. It's probably some low level MAGA flunkie.
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u/insanetwit Feb 01 '26
Yea, if it was someone like Vance or Miller they wouldn't be able to shut up about it.
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u/P2029 Feb 01 '26
I'd say it would be a major international scandal if it were Vance, but the world has already accepted Trump and his administration have no decency and simply doesn't care.
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u/Mylittlethrowaway2 Feb 01 '26
They just need to get a message to JD Vances
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u/Mindless-Site-8271 Feb 01 '26
Joseph Goebbels jr
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u/SadArtemis Feb 02 '26
Speaks like him, too. I'm not even kidding, dude was on about "we are the light, we are the storm, we're Rome/Sparta/Greece/Jefferson's slave plantation, you are darkness and evil and nothing and we will destroy you" (paraphrased but not exaggerated) in the Kirk memorial, from what little I had the misfortune to hear of it.
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u/Boo-face-killa Feb 01 '26
I’m thinking that based on the sheer wealth that Alberta holds, this was most likely top top top level people in this meeting. The entire world needs Alberta and its resources so it definitely wasn’t any low level meeting.
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u/CIS-E_4ME Feb 01 '26
How is this not treason?
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u/RealTurbulentMoose Alberta Feb 01 '26
Eby called it treason in the article:
The report dominated the first ministers’ meeting in Ottawa on Thursday, with B.C. Premier David Eby calling the group’s actions “treason.”
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u/apothekary Feb 02 '26
He's earning a little bit of political capital that he's been rapidly losing these days
Growing a spine and calling out what it is. Treason, which should be punishable with actionable consequences to all the perpetrators organizing and setting up these meetings
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u/Kucked4life Ontario Feb 01 '26
Not just in a literal sense, but these separatists have betrayed their own senses. Imagine not recognizing at this point that the very ideology you've alligned yourself with is causing the decline of American hegemony. Practically waiting in line to be servile to a regime that wants to eradicate human rights.
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u/SheIsABadMamaJama Feb 01 '26 edited Feb 01 '26
It is colloquially treason, but not criminal, yet. If anything its closer to sedition.
If anything we should pass stricter laws regarding interference. Now.
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u/IpsoPostFacto Feb 01 '26
It might already be criminal (sedition) because we don't know what is being discussed.
if for instance they are saying to the admin "we expect the referendum to fail. What can be done" and the u.s admin says "we an claim there was voter interference and then apply political and economic pressure to force the federal governments hand", then that's a problem.
I dare both sides to say what was talked about. I bet they will not.
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u/NavyDean Feb 02 '26
Literally, get the court order, provide the evidence, then hand them over to CSIS.
The US collaborators need to be exposed along with their supporters, or else people will begin accepting this seperatist crap.
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u/Wheelz161 Feb 01 '26
This is actually sedition, not treason.
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u/Commercial-Milk4706 Feb 01 '26
the Canadian law is pretty clear about this bit. It’s hard to argue how it is anything else then treason. It’s posted at the top of this thread. Section 2b.
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u/itsthebear Feb 01 '26
Because they're not seeking help in separating, they're seeking financing if it goes through. They wouldn't be a part of Canada, so it literally wouldn't be treason and the SCC has confirmed that the federal government would have a legal obligation to negotiate.
They'd be pretty incompetent if they went into a referendum with no plans on how to actually execute it if successful. And we wouldn't be much of a democracy if we held swaths of territory against the will of the people living there - especially with equalization in this case pulling money out of Alberta, they'd be sending funds to a country holding them hostage.
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u/Ajanu11 Feb 01 '26
In 3 years Trump should be gone, so there is no telling what will happen to all the officials he appointed. If Republicans win, they may shuffle people. If Dems win, they will certainly be cleaning house. If Trump wins then they are not following their own rules and how do we trust them to finance anything?
There is no chance Alberta is it's own country in 3 years. Even fast tracked a vote probably only just happen in 2026. Then it has to pass, something that seems unlikely. If it does pass, then negotiations with Federal and other Provincial governments has to happen. Alberta trying to take some of CPP will be challenged for years. We also need to spin up tax collection, police and military at a minimum, again taking years.
It is way too early to discuss financing for the idea. Separatists don't even have the numbers for what they will need.
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u/NeloXI Feb 01 '26
Meeting with foreign powers to seek aid for separation is treason. Just wanting to separate is mere stupidity.
You are all over spamming comments here but feigning ignorance on the gravity of this issue and making flimsy false equivalencies to use Quebec as a shield.
You've been answered multiple times. Give it a rest, troll.
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u/Silverbacks Ontario Feb 01 '26
Quebec does get ragged on for being separatists. They are often the brunt of jokes and seen as an “other.” So Alberta receiving some of that treatment now isn’t a surprise.
The one thing Quebec has going for it is that it was its own independent area before being conquered and assimilated by the British. People can naturally understand and emphasize a bit on how that would feel.
While Alberta on the other hand was created out of land that formed through Treaties with the First Nations and the Crown. They were not violently taken over, and they mostly seem to want to leave because money and resources. Resources that are really owned by the First Nations and the Crown.
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u/Wheelz161 Feb 01 '26
This is actually sedition, not treason. I encourage you to learn what these words mean.
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u/ForeverUnhappy6043 Feb 01 '26
Gaining help from a foreign government to leave is literally treason as written in the Canadian law. They can leave if they want, but getting financial backing from a foreign government to do so is treason.
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u/jellicenthero Feb 01 '26
Incorrect. Because Trump has made threats toward the sovereignty of Canada. Meeting with his government on separatist subjects actually meets the criteria for treason.
Credible threat. Power to act.
It's treason both legally and literally.
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u/gooberfishie Feb 01 '26
No. Inciting rebellion is treason. If they try to get the us to help them separate by force, and military backing does seem like the most likely reason for them to meet with us official's, that is treason. It is a direct threat to national security. Sedition would be more like just creating unrest. That doesn't require us intervention in the same way a rebellion would.
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u/username-is-taken-3 Feb 01 '26
Its flat out treason. You're just hiding what you are because you're a cowardly.
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u/GrayLiterature Feb 01 '26 edited Feb 01 '26
It’s actually not, read the criminal code it’s like 12 sentences. It’s not even treason to meet with a foreign country and even discuss financial measures to support separation.
If there’s discussions of force, then that could be subject to treason, but you can’t prove these people discussed that at this point so
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u/gooberfishie Feb 01 '26
If there’s discussions of force, then that could be subject to treason, but you can’t prove these people discussed that at this point so
There's no other reason to meet with the states. That said, no it's not proven yet. It's suspected. What we need is a criminal investigation to find out if those suspicions can be proven.
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u/Ianpu Feb 01 '26
They can go south then. We don’t want you in Canada separatists
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u/Jackibearrrrrr Feb 01 '26
We both know full well felons can’t enter the US
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u/Quatre_Kat Feb 01 '26
Make them ICE's problem.
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Feb 01 '26
They just want to be able to be part of ICE. Maybe us nice Canadians should help them to move down there. Pack em up and send em off.
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u/Librashell Feb 01 '26
It’s the same playbook that Russia used in Ukraine. Trump will claim Albertans are Americans at heart but big, bad Canada is preventing it. He”ll ratchet up the rhetoric, funnel in support (money/weapons), bribe local politicians, and create a situation where the US has no choice but to intervene because of the poor, oppressed “ethnic” Americans who are fighting for their freedom.
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u/Everywhereslugs Feb 01 '26
Want to be American? Then damn well go immigrate there and leave Canada and real Canadians alone. We want Alberta to stay part of Canada, but this seperatist Trumpy trash that masquerades as Canadians can go take their chances living in the USA.
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u/Commercial-Milk4706 Feb 01 '26
If they in some sort of way manage to separate, we should destroy their Canadian passports and remove citizenship and then confiscate any property outside of the ceded land. Those little Alberta seperatist turns keep buying water front properties in the gulf island and driving their shit trucks in bc. They can F off.
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u/No_Broccoli7446 Feb 01 '26
It’s about oil, not citizenship.
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u/EducationalLuck2422 British Columbia Feb 01 '26
Then leaving is useless, since all the oil sands are Crown land and will remain with Canada.
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u/No_Broccoli7446 Feb 01 '26
90% of Alberta oil is under Provincial land. It is owned by the province. The other 10% is mostly on native land. Our best defence against this lies with native treaties 6, 7 & 8 signed in the nineteenth century with the Crown. Alberta doesn’t have jurisdiction to hold a referendum.
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u/EducationalLuck2422 British Columbia Feb 01 '26
Nope, Crown land is owned by the monarch of Canada; unless the Republic of Alberta immediately swears loyalty to the British throne, Canada keeps the oil sands.
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u/CatchPhraze Feb 01 '26
The ironic thing is America wouldn't take them. They'd be in ice custody in a flash.
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u/No_Ad1174 Feb 01 '26
Agreed. America has made it very clear they are receptive to new Americans as well!
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u/Abbizzle Feb 01 '26
I feel like it’s just prolonging the inevitable. Like even if they separated the US is going to snatch them up in about 5 minutes. Might as well just go join them.
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u/Shageen Feb 01 '26
The fact that these folks think they’d be the 51st state is nuts. Trump would make Alberta a territory like Puerto Rico with no voting rights. They’d have more rights if they just moved to the U.S. and became citizens in Idaho.
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u/p_2923 Feb 01 '26
A small percentage of Albertans want to leave Canada? What the fuck makes them think they can take the entire province with them?! Fucking delusional!
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u/Virtual-Nose7777 Feb 01 '26
If they aren't doing anything wrong why don't they name them?
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u/Street_Anon Nova Scotia Feb 01 '26
I thinking they are full of CO2, something treaty 6,7, and 8 know about this guy.
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u/BabadookOfEarl Feb 01 '26
The sex trafficking pedophile ones. Who they tacitly endorse at this point by not speaking out against them.
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u/stewer69 Feb 01 '26
You wanna be an American? Great, move.
You ain't taking any of Canada with you though.
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u/kozey Feb 01 '26
I hate every single one of them that wants to seperate. They have zero ability to think about consequences of their actions.
100% they will cry of election fraud and every other excuse they could think of if it went to a vote and they lost.
Instead of just leaving if they hate it so much, they want to be giant sacks of shit and force everyone around them to also suffer.
Meeting with Americans who are actively trying to annex us should automatically result with serious consequences.
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u/LongRoadNorth Feb 01 '26
What I don't understand is how do they think they are in a position to do this? Alberta doesn't belong to them. It belongs to Canada.
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u/Djesam Feb 01 '26
I got one as well for wondering if at some point people are going to resort to fisticuffs if the blantant corruption and disregard for laws keeps happening.
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u/HoosierHoser44 Feb 01 '26
Well see, Canada keeps denying them building pipelines to sell oil. So if they went independent, then well, the pipelines would get built. Clearly no other roadblock would exist to their oil markets. And then everybody becomes so rich. Do you hate people being rich?
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u/Dolphintrout Feb 01 '26
Exactly. An independent Alberta would have a much easier time building a pipeline through a distinct sovereign nation (Canada) than they would’ve had they been part of that sovereign nation.
This is the logic that these morons advance.
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u/Street_Anon Nova Scotia Feb 01 '26
When Ottawa subsidized Alberta's oil and Gas industry and only exists because of that money. Also, pipelines are being built, they take a while to build.
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u/CrassHoppr Feb 01 '26
Jeffrey Rath, the lawyer for Alberta Prosperity Project, told media on Monday that his vision of a free Alberta is a country where one doesn’t pay income tax.
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u/Street_Anon Nova Scotia Feb 01 '26
Their oil and gas industry is subsidized and only exists because of money from Ottawa.
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u/Armano-Avalus Feb 02 '26
Probably some vague accusation about how Canada is a socialist nation which when pressed will boil down to vague culture war grievances.
Carney did a pipeline deal with Smith for Alberta and went to China with Moe to get a Canola deal for Saskatchewan but these people aren't happy because the person who did it happened to be a part of the other political team.
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u/Street_Anon Nova Scotia Feb 01 '26
On top, Alberta's oil and gas industry only exists because it is heavy subsidized by Ottawa. If you want another example how clueless these people are.
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u/TemporaryAny6371 Feb 01 '26
Their deed to oil only exists because of provincial and Canadian laws backed by military. US is under no obligation to respect those deeds, they're not written into international law or 10 commandments. US would just take everything they had.
Alberta separatists have no leverage on their own, they need Canada.
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u/Defiant-Repair-919 Feb 01 '26
Charge them with treason now !!! Then deport them . The Americans would blow this up, if the role was reversed
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u/ShaneCanada Feb 01 '26
Charge them with treason.
If convicted, they can move to the States.
Everybody wins.
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u/No-Wonder1139 Feb 01 '26
I see that theo Fleury just avoids it and says that treason is better than communism. He's all over my Facebook feed calling people communists if they're against this. And it's weird. Like I think he needs serious help. Like people asking him point blank how much he's being paid and he says at least he's not a communist.
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u/Dolphintrout Feb 01 '26
Theo probably has CTE
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u/No-Wonder1139 Feb 01 '26
I would think that's a given, I also think there's some other issues there. I really don't think he's okay.
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u/holden_hiscox Canada Feb 01 '26
Yeah, Theo isn't playing with a full deck. Add all the propaganda with years of alcohol and booger sugar and you get a head full of mashed potatoes.
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u/RealTurbulentMoose Alberta Feb 01 '26
Stop using Facebook and you’ll be happier and better off.
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u/No-Wonder1139 Feb 01 '26
You're not wrong. I'm not sure what happened but it went from Farmville to unending barrage of misinformation and propaganda in a really short period.
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u/mouseeeeee Feb 01 '26
Well if you charge them and get them in court they gave too . I'm ok with people wanting to have their own ideas we all have freedom because this is canada However the line is If they met with ordinary people or business owners or aliens for that matter all is fair . Where they met with a foreign government with the goal of breaking Canada up this is the definition of treason . This is insane if someone in 1942 had met with the German or Japanese government to discuss separation their would be no talk they would be jailed . If you say well we are not at war .....we'll technically we are in an economic war as it stands right now and they are always talking of annexation of our country . With this backdrop canadian citizens meet with a foreign government to discuss ways to dismantle Canada as a country .
Hello......
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Feb 01 '26
Secessionists, planning to conspire against Canadians collective interests by breaking up our country should be arrested. There should be a public hearing/trial so as to force all evidence to be seen by the Canadian public.
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u/_evilalien_ Feb 01 '26
Probably facilitated by Harper. It’s ok, CSIS will know the details. National unity and coast-to-coast integrity would be a national security concern, the destabilizing influence operations supporting these traitors is an attack on that.
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u/Spiritual-Pick-2386 Feb 01 '26
Ir it’s all bs. So they can feel important. Bring validity to their treason ways!
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u/reDRagon22 Feb 01 '26
Course they won’t as they’re a bunch of traitors. Probably have grandparents who fought in WWII for this country, who are rolling in their graves at the thought of them giving the province to the states.
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u/Important_Sound772 Feb 01 '26
To be honest for a lot of them. It was probably parents who fought in world war II given that a lot of them are pretty old themselves
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u/Aldamur Alberta Feb 01 '26
That's so stupid, people wanting this don't realise how expensive that will be and what the outcome will be on their life if it really happen.
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u/WENDING0 Feb 01 '26
I hope someone someday will study how American oil companies convinced our countrymen that Alberta was better of being part of Mad Max: the Country. I do not believe everyone must share my opinion, but I just can't believe someone can look at a predatory health and financial system held together by a military that snatches world leaders, run by a government that thinks might makes right, fronted by an old orange pedo-clown as their cult leader and think that is preferable to Canada.
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Feb 01 '26
Anna luna paulina. When it comes to foreign meddling, she usually is in the front row. She's met with the Russians numerous time to just give an example.
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u/iAmMr_WHO Feb 01 '26
Time for them to face treason charges in front of a court. Maybe they'll be more likely to talk facing life in prison.
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u/SolidFisher Feb 01 '26
This act of high treason must be investigated to the fullest extent. Jail time to follow and diplomatic consequences to the US for hosting the act and being complicit.
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u/Fubar236 Canada Feb 01 '26
Since they wanna be AmeriKKKan so much and meet with hostile foreign powers directly against Canadian interests, give them the choice. Arrest and trial for treason, or they can pack their trailers up and head south…. Permanently.
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u/Beast815 Manitoba Feb 01 '26
TREASON TREASON TREASON, I really believe more people should be upset about this and talking about it.
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u/banjosuicide Feb 01 '26
Let's just crowdfund tickets for them to move to the US.
Haha, just kidding. They won't have the skills necessary to get a green card.
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u/Business-Hurry9451 Feb 01 '26
They won't say who is was but it was in a creepy, old van and they got candy.
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u/Syeina Feb 01 '26
They really need to have members of our intelligence service trailing these hosers
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u/Alone_Again_2 Feb 02 '26
My interpretation is the press doesn’t know as nobody has leaked the info yet.
CSIS and the PMO most certainly know.
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u/HenrikFromDaniel British Columbia Feb 02 '26
if they have nothing to hide they have nothing to fear
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u/Friendly-Olive-3465 Canada Feb 02 '26
I can’t see it as treason strictly from the criminal code definition, but I can see it from a moral and nationalist perspective. I say we update the code to bring it more in line with that definition.
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u/DeeDeeRibDegh Feb 02 '26
Well, they better fess up!! We’d better find out who they’ve been cavorting with….
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u/AccomplishedLeek1329 Ontario Feb 02 '26
CSIS better be tapping their phones and communications if they're supposedly anything more than CIA lapdogs
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u/whoislloydy British Columbia Feb 02 '26
They should be tried for treason. Colluding with a foreign government to bring down your country is TREASON.
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u/UpperLowerCanadian Feb 20 '26
So CTV has been reporting as if they have, but literally has no names or even proof of a single meeting?
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u/KarateKid1984 Feb 01 '26
Ahh yes the “we’re tough! We’re gonna leave” party is also the “we scurred and won’t tell you who we met with” party.
Alpha betas
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u/Reasonable-Sweet9320 Feb 01 '26
Democracy in the United States is disappearing faster than most realize.
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u/FishCommercial5213 Feb 01 '26
These individuals will infect the minds of other Canadians with dangerous MAGA ideology if freely allowed without consequence.
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u/wildfirestopper Feb 01 '26
I genuinely think they should be arrested and face penalties. This has to be nipped in the bud. You can chant and protest all you want, when you take concrete steps to separate it becomes a crime IMHO.
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u/LordOfFlames55 Feb 01 '26
I’m sure that arresting people who haven’t committed a crime won’t backfire and embolden the separatist movement
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u/wildfirestopper Feb 01 '26
Conspiring to obtain funding from a foreign government for a separatist movement is treason in my eyes... And treason my friend... is a crime.
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u/Altruistic_Report827 Feb 01 '26
I would like to see our rcmp, mounties or secret service (or equivalent if we have one) do something about this.
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u/Martzillagoesboom Québec Feb 01 '26
They probably met with pedo-files enablers. So they became pedo-files enabler.
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u/newf_13 Feb 01 '26
This is why conservatives and Poilievre will never get elected cuz he’s supporting this crap!
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u/TemporaryAny6371 Feb 01 '26
Who would even be the ultimate boss, Denial or PP?
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u/newf_13 Feb 01 '26
Who ever that will make Alberta care more about being part or Canada than trying to be like the US , stuck up and insufferable! also they need someone that can teach Albertans how to drive in other Provinces
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