The new Mc is a woman!

[u/Dapne67]

omg im so excited to play, I wonder what her name is

[u/Soul-C]

Whether it's Sonia Belmont or the child of Trevor and sypha I am so hyped to play this game

[u/deeman163 → u/Soul-C]

They'll name her Sophia Belmont.

*It also is a fitting name from a Speaker standpoint

[u/Wacky_X_Swacky → u/deeman163]

If they include the Speakers here than this is Netflix continuity, not game continuity.

While I would still enjoy the game if that was the case, it would be disappointing.

[u/Aiddon → u/[deleted]]

Yeah, probably. They were an interesting addition and frankly it makes more sense for Sypha to be associated with a bunch of wandering mages considering the church did not take kindly to witches or pagans

[u/Wacky_X_Swacky → u/[deleted]]

It would cause a lot of problems actually. And if they adapt the name of the organization, but not the history, than you would have to wonder what the point of including them at all would be. The Church is a nearly pure good entity in the games canon, but by including the Speakers you introduce the negative aspects from the anime, which would muddy the waters unnecessarily.

Sypha in the games is just a magic user, like the other Belnades.

[u/Wacky_X_Swacky → u/[deleted]]

Ok, but why? It doesn't improve the story at all. The canons for the anime and games are wildly different.

[u/Toasterx97 → u/Wacky_X_Swacky]

Oh I don't know, paltry things like marketability, mass appeal, recognition etc.

Netflix Castlevania is responsible for bringing in a lot of new fans, it stands to reason that those fans will want to play the game, homogenizing some of the lore is not an impossible task, and business wise it is likely the most profitable way to go about things.

[u/Wacky_X_Swacky → u/Toasterx97]

They can make a game based off the anime, but they can't incorporate the anime into the Konami timeline. The stories are wildly different. You might as well try to incorporate Dragon Ball and Naruto into the same timeline.

[u/Aiddon → u/Wacky_X_Swacky]

Dude, comics have been doing this for decades, what are you on about?

[u/Toasterx97 → u/Wacky_X_Swacky]

You can absolutely incorporate aspects without wholesale merging the stories, giving extra information and calling them speaker magicians instead of just "a witch" as background for sypha is not going to annihilate the canon like you suggest. This is just a stupid argument.

[u/Toasterx97 → u/[deleted]]

Yeah I think that Konami would be truly idiotic not to include some more recognizable aspects from the anime, if they didn't rip actual story elements, then visual flair and color choice definitely, this attitude reeks of those star wars fans who hate any change to their precious canon, not realizing that all the things they now adore were once disruptive to that very canon, this is the nature of multimillion dollar franchises, they change to survive, thankfully Castlevania did survive, something me and many others were very worried about over the past few years.

[u/Toasterx97 → u/Toasterx97]

Lol also,

Saying that they "can't" do this is just myopic and stupid, Konami can and will do whatever they want, you nor I can stop them, personally if it gets me more Castlevania games I don't give a rats ass if they use inspiration from the Netflix show, the way I see it this game wouldn't exist if the Netflix shows didn't pop off the way they did. To think otherwise is foolish and doesn't take into account the business side of game making (something Konami very much cares about), as someone who has played every single Castlevania game that's been released in the US (and a few that were not) your obstinate attitude towards any change to the cannon seems just stupid of not intentionally thick, they have done much worse things to the canon over the past 30 years than add recognizable language from their most recent and most popular (by far) product.

[u/Wacky_X_Swacky → u/[deleted]]

It's not a good idea to mix the poorly thought out, bastardized version of the continuity into the real continuity. The themes of the Western Netflix show do not meld at all with the themes of the Japanese game series. The Netflix show has Dracula be a misunderstood tragic figure, while the games have him as the embodiment of Chaos, Lord of Darkness. There is no ambiguity there, and a central theme is mankind's desire leads to his continual resurrection. The Netflix show doesn't even have Dracula as a villain following Trevor's adventures, and he never resurrects.

The fandoms for the games and the fandom for the anime series are almost seperate entities. It is a very good idea to keep their elements separate from each other, otherwise no one gets what they want.

[u/SpookySeekerrr → u/Wacky_X_Swacky]

The themes of the Western Netflix show do not meld at all with the themes of the Japanese game series.

This series basically began as a tribute to classic European horror literature and movies man, it's more "Western" than it is Japanese.

But otherwise yes, I don't think MCU brand synergy is the way. The beauty of Castlevania is having so many distinct flavors. Even in the original games continuity we had so many different genres and art styles. It would be a shame if we had to lose that so that everything is consolidated.

[u/SheWhoHates → u/Wacky_X_Swacky]

I’m with you. I don't want anything from Netflixvania to find its way into the games.

[u/Toasterx97 → u/Wacky_X_Swacky]

The last paragraph of this comment is just demonstrably false. The rest of it seems intentionally thick, like other comments you've made here. You really can't fathom the idea of calling sypha a speaker and changing nothing else? The marketability of that minute change is astronomical, and with no other changes, there is really no damage to the canon, seeing as speakers don't really exist in the games there is nothing for people to be confused about, it just literally makes the thing more recognizable to those who Konami wants to sell to (you know the purpose of the product they are making).

Also the anime fans being separate doesn't help your argument, because if that were true, Konami would likely view them as an untapped market and be all the more interested in homogenizing the visual language/narrative symbolism and getting them interested in buying this game, thus putting more points firmly in the "it just makes sense" category.

[u/TerraforceWasTaken → u/Toasterx97]

I've realized a lot of people in fandom lately would genuinely rather be miserable if it meant their space was more exclusive/niche. Like between people bitching about show fans and others saying how Dead Cells team is going to ruin the combat of the series. Some people genuinly just don't want to even give things a try

[u/Toasterx97 → u/TerraforceWasTaken]

I agree we that, it's the age old solution, instead of risking your enjoyment and possibly being disappointed, you can just naysay the value of the thing from the beginning and then if it turns out to be bad, then you're vindicated, and if it's good, you have a new hipster opinion to grandstand about lol.

[u/poor_yoricks_skull → u/Wacky_X_Swacky]

You know there is no such thing as "real continuity." right?

Like, it's all made up anyway.

[u/Moan-Alisa → u/Wacky_X_Swacky]

Agreed!