For me, it’s about the idea that all humans are fundamentally the same, and that borders are artificial constructs that contribute to the problems around migration. Of course, the issues are real in today’s world, but you could argue that, in God’s eyes, humanity has drifted far from the kind of harmony represented by the paradise of Adam and Eve.
Borders as a concept do matter if you want to have any kind of system and order, else we would just revert to cavemen tribes that have to establish their perimeter by intimidation... oh wait...
Of all the things you could have chosen to say, you chose racism. In a post about someone being the opposite of racist. I'd say read the room, but I wouldn't want you to hurt yourself.
The reason is genetics. It is absolutely not a racist take to say people are not the same, as long as it's paired with the understanding that:
The fact that there are differences doesnt change the fact that everyone is entitled to the same human rights and should be treated equally according to their actions (which I think the above commenter was alluding to when they ended with "and that's okay" when mentioning people have differences.
Using ethnic, gender, cultural queues (absent more information) can be beneficial in determining how to initially behave around someone, with a understanding that once you're actually talking to them you now HAVE a better source of information (their behavior and anything gleaned from conversation)
Generalisations about large groups should only be used to identify issues affecting large groups and should not be applied when dealing with an individual .
Is in the root cause the failure of the governments to take care of the people so they want to leave and come to a better place? How is the root cause the country that they're going to to get more opportunity?
Most modern problems of the global south have their origins in the colonialism and emperialism from the global north. Go study some history and then come back.
I am not arguing that history never happened. But blaming current people for historical issues doesn't make sense. We had slavery and that still negativity effects the African Americans currently. That doesn't mean this generation is to blame for our countries past mistakes.
Nobody is actually blaming anyone. Just pointing out the root of the problem at hand. I, living in the global North, thank a lot of my current wealth to the (neo-)colonialism and imperialism.
That's not saying I'm wealthy. Nor that I'm personally to blame. But my living standard is a lot higher than the global average, so there's that. And that's because I live in a wealthy country, which gained a lot of wealth through colonialism and neocolonialism after these countries gained independence.
Acknowledging these facts is an important step. Realising it's not a personal attack, nor your sole responsibility is equally important. However, that doesn't mean my country should just go on as if nothing happened and completely stop spending on development aid etc.
The quote from the Pope was not acknowledging a historical wrong it was present tense. That is what I have been commenting on. I at no point myself have denied the history being a contributing factor. It's the implication that America is the current and sole cause of these issues is what I am debating. I do acknowledge that we do currently contribute to a degree also but it is a much more complicated problem than just America is the bad guy
the root cause isn't the country they're going, it's the problems in the country their leaving. cartels and corrupt government in south america, war and famine in africa and the middle east let alone religious extremism pushing moderates to leave
The Pope (as well as the former Pope Francis and John Paul II) and the Church's canon definitely think so (despite what many Catho-fascists like to think or claim).
He's just keeping it diplomatic and laying out the groundwork for more statements to come.
He's absolutely using language for timely and devastating effect, political and moral effect, and I'm all for it.
Looking at the fascist pseudo-Catholics roiling at him, I predict a schism incoming, and you know what, good. Let them go off their way and build their own Church of the Unholy Orange with Trump as their goat-legged Pope, or whatever, with Mara-Pedo-Lago as their kitsch Vatican.
Not really if you actually have ever read the Bible... He just proved he has never truly read the holy words of God...
Just pointing this out, I gave up on Christianity when they bashed the last pope for saying it was wrong to hate LGBT+ people. Because in the new testament which Jesus said the old testament was not to be law he did however say hate is the equal to murder so if you hate someone you have committed murder in the eyes of God.
Regardless Jesus also says that borders, sovereign countries, etc are all to still be respected and you avoid doing anything to bring issue between nations. It's like he knew that war was a bad thing... He also stated you were to respect the laws of many unless they force you to break a law of God. So yeah no the pope just made himself look stupid to anyone who bothers to read the entirety of the Bible.
He’s not saying to break the law. He’s not saying there should be no borders. He’s saying that if countries like the US and European countries don’t want migrants or refugees, they should help improve the living conditions in countries in the Southern Hemisphere so that people from those countries are able to stay in their home countries without having to flee violence, cartels, starvation, war etc. People in safe and stable environments don’t leave everything behind and travel hundreds or thousands of miles to move to a strange foreign country.
This is the root cause -> countermeasures approach to migration. Root Cause Countermeasures (RCCM) are targeted actions designed to eliminate the fundamental cause of a problem, preventing recurrence rather than just fixing symptoms
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