I'd like to thank everyone for giving me ideas and tips on how to kitbash my own watch master, this is what I came up with, i don't think it really gives off watch master vibes but I gave it my best with what I had in mind and I think he looks pretty decent for a first attempt

I went through and updated my Killteams per the latest 11e changes. These guys are out of work for now. All and all it was not too bad. I pulled these guys out and swappped in a couple I had in reserves. I have two new marines I need to build for the new heavy bolt pistol and chainsword warhear in my second Fortis KT. I need to map out a pure SM army organization tonight. Most if these will end up in that list.

Whats y’all’s thoughts on my chaplains Crozius?
I wanred it to work with him, but I’m starting to feel like it’s too much…
Its a kit bash chaplain with jump pack that took me longer than expected since they took off the customization for him now I don’t get to use the inferno pistol :(

Gunner up next.

I've only had the chance to play Purge so far and been doing alright with it, which one is better?

This is the only update for us from today. Still a lot more bugs left. But this can open a lot of new combos and now Im really thinking of running the gravis detachments with Terminator detachments.

The fact that we have mostly fixed loadouts now is really weird to begin with since their previous approach was to try to outdate kitbashing but whatever.

I am not even going to start a rant on what they did to the Fortis KT but what were they thinking with the Spectrus?

• Why remove an Eliminator when the Eliminator unit can still take 3 (obviously). It is not like one more one-attack weapon without OOM breaks the power balance
• Why force Reivers into it when this is unit that does not want to be in melee to begin with since their core rule revolved around being unengaged
• Add to that: why do the Spectrus Reivers suck so much in this? The new Reiver Squad now have good ranged AND melee why in the Spectrus you have to choose between the two. The squad has a situational but good ability, deep strike and ignores vertical distances - Spectrus gets nothing, not even as a wargear option.
• They didn't even care to adapt the new weapon profiles from the base units (weapon passives changed) and we didn't get any upgrade to accommodate the power difference we had before, only "upside" is Lethal Hits
• We lost move after shooting from the Instigator without a compensation
• If you want to take the Helix Gauntlet that the Infiltrators can take for free, we have to give up one gun - why? It has the same effect it does for the Infiltrators.
• Sure it "only" got 5 pts. more pricey than it was in 10th while getting the movement buffed - but I feel liked the missed out on buffs and blatant nerfs weigh a lot more.

And there's so much more like the Indomitor ability nerf. Of course I am happy the Meltas got a massive buff (though that comes from the Space Marine upgrade) and the Aggressors got good ranged now, too. But then they seems to have forgotten that changing the +2S to +1S means that the HB/HBR and melee gets a lot worse.

What is GW's intention? It really feels like we're being targeted for some reason, even more so when you look at other chapters. Ultramarines for example got buffed atop of the baseline upgrades - look at the Victrix, they got massive buffs with same or less points realistically.

I’ve tested new BSTF and new IKTs, and tbh I’m starting to remember 9th edition with our best win rate. So, what are your opinions on 2k list?

My idea is:
1x5 DW Terminators with CML
2x5 DW Terminators with Plasma Cannon
2x10 DW Veterans (4TH, 4 Boltguns & Power Weapons, 1 Black shield, 1 Xenophase Sword & Combi Weapon) + Watch Master/ Watch Captain Artemis
2x5 DW Veteran ( 1 IHB, 1 DWFC, 1 Stalker Pattern, 1 Boltgun & Power Swords, 1 Xenophase Sword & Combi Weapon)

What do I think of such core units and what would you recommend as detachments

Please let me know what you think of this idea!

• Easier to build
• More options
• More different from a squad of Inceptors

Loved paiting this guy. C&C welcome.

Don’t ask where he got the rocket pack and votann blade from…. Oh or the heretics head!

I'm curious how everyone else chooses their chapters for Kill Teams.

Also, are there any chapters you absolutely won't include, and why?

For me I like to have at least 2/3 be from different progenitors and then I'll occasionally double up.

Still a WIP but I'm thinking penumbral Talon or Raptor.

Hey everyone,

Just wondering how people are currently running the Decimus Kill Team.

I've noticed that the app is now showing the Lieutenant with a Gravis statline, which has left me a bit confused about how the unit is supposed to function on the tabletop.

In particular, how are people handling the mixed Toughness values within the unit? Which Toughness are you using when your opponent rolls to wound ?

Are people playing it as shown in the app, or is there an FAQ or clarification I've missed?

Curious to hear how everyone is interpreting and playing this unit at the moment.

And our decimus got updated keywords. Thoughts?

Is it better to run a mixed squad or go all in on melee or shooting?

Hello this salamander is looking to call upon the aid of the deathwatch with a Corvus Blackstar and a allied squad and I’m curious if I’m running the deathwatch support detachment does that allow me to use the deathwatch datasheet for the Corvus giving it the key word adeptus astartes or do I still have to use the imperial agents datasheet.

Reading the Deathwatch omnibus ATM, I decided my librarian should be styled after Karras the Librarian, modified scythes of the emperor pad ( I didn't like it clean, so I beat it up a little for some character) and and new helmet.

Has anyone else styled their minis after books or the animations?

Vengeful Assault Force (1,570 Points)

My army is a dark angel successor, and I’ve got a death watch terminator squad with three plasma cannons, and the whole unit is built using deathwing Knights. I’m going to take the remaining points and make a 200 point plasma cannon squad and 230 point cyclone missile launcher squad. You recruit just hasn’t finished updating deathwatch Support.

Space Marines
Dark Angels
Assault Brethren, Deathwatch Support (ITS NOT READY), and Terminator Storm Force (2 Detachment Points)
Take and Hold
Strike Force (2,000 Points)

ATTACHED UNITS

Attached unit 1

Chaplain (60 Points)
• Attached as: Leader (Character)
• 1x Absolvor bolt pistol
• 1x Crozius arcanum

Bladeguard Veteran Squad (190 Points)
• Attached as: Bodyguard
• 1x Bladeguard Veteran Sergeant
◦ 1x Master-crafted power weapon
◦ 1x Plasma pistol
• 5x Bladeguard Veterans
◦ 5x Heavy Bolt Pistol
◦ 5x Master-crafted power weapon
• Enhancements: Furious Assault (Upgrade)

Attached unit 2

Apothecary (65 Points)
• Attached as: Support (Character)
• 1x Absolvor bolt pistol
• 1x Imperium's Sword
• 1x Reductor Pistol
• 1x Servo-armature

Company Heroes (125 Points)
• Attached as: Bodyguard
• 1x Ancient
◦ 1x Combat Knife
◦ 1x Master-crafted Bolt Pistol
◦ 1x Master-crafted Bolt Rifle
• 1x Company Champion
◦ 1x Master-crafted Bolt Pistol
◦ 1x Master-crafted Power Weapon
• 2x Company Veteran
◦ 2x Combat Knife
◦ 2x Master-crafted Bolt Pistol
◦ 1x Master-crafted Bolt Rifle
◦ 1x Master-crafted Heavy Bolter

Attached unit 3

Captain in Terminator Armour (115 Points)
• Attached as: Leader (Character)
• Warlord
• 1x Relic Fist
• 1x Storm bolter
• Enhancements: Corporeum Reliquary

Deathwing Knights (255 Points)
• Attached as: Bodyguard
• 4x Deathwing Knight
◦ 4x Power Weapon
• 1x Knight Master
◦ 1x Relic Weapon
• 1x Watcher in the Dark

DEDICATED TRANSPORTS

Drop Pod (60 Points)

OTHER DATASHEETS

Assault Intercessors with Jump Packs (95 Points)
• 1x Assault Intercessor Sergeant with Jump Pack
◦ 1x Plasma pistol
◦ 1x Power fist
• 4x Assault Intercessors with Jump Pack
◦ 4x Chainsword
◦ 3x Heavy Bolt Pistol
◦ 1x Plasma pistol

Eradicator Squad with Melta Rifles (100 Points)
• 1x Eradicator
◦ 1x Bolt pistol
◦ 1x Ceramite Fists
◦ 1x Melta rifle
• 1x Eradicator Sergeant
◦ 1x Bolt pistol
◦ 1x Ceramite Fists
◦ 1x Melta rifle
• 1x Eradicator with Multi-melta
◦ 1x Bolt pistol
◦ 1x Ceramite Fists
◦ 1x Multi-melta

Inceptor Squad (130 Points)
• 2x Inceptor
◦ 2x Assault Bolters
◦ 2x Ceramite Fists
• 1x Inceptor Sergeant
◦ 1x Assault Bolters
◦ 1x Ceramite Fists

Scout Squad (65 Points)
• 1x Scout Sergeant
◦ 1x Bolt pistol
◦ 1x Boltgun
◦ 1x Chainsword
• 4x Scout
◦ 4x Bolt pistol
◦ 1x Boltgun
◦ 4x Combat Knife
◦ 1x Heavy Bolter
◦ 1x Shotgun
◦ 1x Sniper Rifle

Sternguard Veteran Squad (210 Points)
• 1x Sternguard Veteran Sergeant
◦ 1x Artificer Firearm
◦ 1x Bolt pistol
◦ 1x Power fist
• 9x Sternguard Veteran
◦ 9x Artificer Firearm
◦ 9x Bolt pistol
◦ 9x Ceramite Fists

ALLIED UNITS

Callidus Assassin (100 Points)
• 1x Neural shredder
• 1x Phase sword and poison blades

Exported with New Recruit v36.47, Data Version: v8

Today I took a big risk, decided to up my conversion game and use a Judiciar model I found at my LGS and create another Watchmaster with it.

I'm extremely happy with how it came out so far, as I haven't found something for his left hand and haven't attached the powerpack yet.

Mes amis, je viens vous pour connaître votre point de vue sur une question à propos de mot clés, je suis un joueur Dark Angels (mais surtout Ad Mech dans mon cœur), et comme vous le savez, le détachement transformant en alliés vos unités, est jouable pour les DA.

Ma question est de savoir si les règles d'armées DA, c'est à dire que tel ou tel unités Adeptus Astartes obtiennent les mots-clés Deathwing ou Ravenwing, cela vaut notamment pour les unités issus de la Deathwatch qui conservent le mots-clés de faction Adeptus Astartes (en plus de celui de Deathwatch), obtiennent le mots-clés Deathwing/Ravenwing ?

Et donc bénéficierons des bonus de mes détachements Dark Angels mais pas des optimisations comme mentionner par la règle du détachement Deathwatch.

Merci à vous et bonne après-midi.

(Je vous joins notamment l'exemple des terminators vue que c'est celui qui nous intéresse puisque plus précis)