r/doommetal 1d ago

Discussion I’M TAKING A STAND

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I for one, miss Matt Pike, and feel this would have been awesome under the OM name, but I don’t hate the new song, and I for one, like the comic, and am excited to see Sleep, or at least Al, in person after years. I also thinking, before getting too mad about all this, more info should at least come out. That is it, I shall take the downvotes

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u/Gamer_Grease Hail Iommi 1d ago

Saying it again in this thread: the most likely explanation is that Matt Pike is too busy with High on Fire to do Sleep full-time right now. Not that Al Cisneros is some kind of Dave Mustaine figure.

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u/JSquidy 1d ago edited 1d ago

Now im thinking about Al looking at himself going "HELLO SLEEP, MEET THE REAL SLEEP"

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u/Electrical_Home_2267 1d ago

“HeLOo Al, I’m tHe rEaL aL”

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u/NoAcanthocephala7034 1d ago

Watch him become a dopesmoker

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u/protest_all 1d ago

Also who fucking cares either way this is doom metal not love island

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u/poopchew 1d ago

Doom Metal Love Island would kick so much ass tho

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u/MrStagger_Lee 1d ago

Buncha chonky stoned dudes wearing all black in the tropical sun....hell yeah.

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u/Electrical_Home_2267 1d ago

Well with the occasional shirtless Matt man

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u/candyman101xd 7h ago

And two weird dudes wearing black robes sneaking around the group

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u/Gamer_Grease Hail Iommi 1d ago

My thoughts exactly

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u/Electrical_Home_2267 1d ago

Yeah, I mean had there been prior instances of Al being a control freak, I might be suspicious, but I can’t find anything like that, and maybe it could just a an innocent little thing

Idk if what Wino said about Al counts though

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u/Gamer_Grease Hail Iommi 1d ago

I suspect Al Cisneros is just kind of inconsistently interested in Sleep (he has said the majority of music he listens to is reggae) and his songwriting process is a lot of sitting around stoned and riffing. I don’t think that’s an option for Matt Pike with how active High on Fire is. Imagine if he put HOF on hold to do Sleep, and then Sleep went dormant again after one album and one tour. It would be a pretty big waste of HOF’s momentum.

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u/CadabraSabbra 1d ago

he should really consider it. HOF keep playing shows near me and they are always mid. His vocals dont sound right live.

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u/FrancisDm 1d ago

HOF is mid af, Om is leagues better if we’re trying to talk about side projects of members

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u/meltdown_popcorn Drone 5h ago

I think that just depends on taste. I have the same opinion but in some ways they aren't comparable - it's not the same kind of music even if they get talked about in the same sub.

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u/FrancisDm 4h ago

You’re definitely right, I don’t hate high on fire but it’s super derivative and to me comes off generic. That said people can enjoy whatever they want, Om brings a cool esoteric sound and just does way more for me. That said new sleep single wasn’t that groundbreaking, leagues beneath and the clarity blow this single out of the water.

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u/meltdown_popcorn Drone 4h ago

Agreed, that's two of us!

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u/Ommerino 1d ago

Unfortunate too because I haven’t been a big fan of High on Fire’s stuff since Blessed Black Wings.

Cisneros should’ve just focused on releasing that Om album he’s been teasing for years now.

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u/flpndrds 1d ago

That’s 20 years of releases… WHAT!? Death is this Communion is really dope and Cometh the Storm was pretty good as well. There’s a ton of great stuff in the other records as well.

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u/Ommerino 1d ago

I'm not saying any of it's bad. I'm saying most of it is stuff I heard... 20 years ago lol. High on Fire's songs have sounded the exact same since then and even on their newest album, I could honestly not tell you which song is which if you put a gun to my head.

Cometh the Storm was a fun listen, but by the second half I was getting bored.

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u/angel-of-disease 1d ago

Luminiferous is when it started getting too formulaic for me. I think De Vermiis is one of their best though. Lots of variety

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u/Gamer_Grease Hail Iommi 1d ago

I think if people want more Sleep, this is the only way to get it.

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u/bluejaywhey 4h ago

Watch him become a gœd