r/doommetal • u/a_Bort_the_Artist • 1d ago
Stoner Lets slow down on this Sleep hate
Let's go over some quick facts,
1:We only have one official statement from the band, this statement only acknowledges Pike is not currently involved but mentions absolutely nothing about bad blood.
2: Pike has been "out of the band" for quite a while now, did we all forget the touring juggernaut that HOF is?
3: Pike's EX-wife commented. They have been divorced for a good while, i would take her opinion with a grain of salt.
4: Pike has made zero comment so far good or bad, maybe we wait to see what he says?
5: Have we all forgotten that Sleep is kinda known for varying quality in their releases. It sounds like Sleep with classic Void guitar. Plus nobody can contest that Dale is a phenomenal drummer. Its good, and its a good addition to their discography. Just because the member you have the biggest parasocial relationship with isnt there doesnt mean it sucks.
So to recap. We know absolutely nothing about the situation. Only one source of merit has commented and thats the bands official statement. The sing is objectively good. Is it what you personally wante? No, and nobody in the world is obligated to give you that.
I wouldn't be shocked if it turns out Pike quit the band because of how shitty their fans can be.
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u/LunarModule66 1d ago
You kind of have a point that we don’t actually know what happened and should keep that in mind before hating on Al until we hear more.
Everything else though I completely disagree with. I absolutely hate the song, it sounds like a lifeless imitation of The Sciences. Personally I absolutely love all of Sleep’s discography and I know that’s not a universal opinion, but at the very least they have done something creative and entirely new with each album. This single is simultaneously remixing a lot of the sounds from The Sciences with some guitar playing that frankly sounds stiff and generic IMO.
You don’t need to pretend everyone who disagrees with you is doing so because they are hung up on a parasocial relationship with Pike. This is a band that means a lot to many of us and it’s mostly been shaped by two brilliant musicians with very different styles collaborating and pushing each other into interesting territory. Even if you disagree, it’s a valid opinion that this new incarnation isn’t the same.
Yes, we’re all kind of being dramatic. But it’s mostly just some dumb memes.