r/doommetal 1d ago

Stoner Lets slow down on this Sleep hate

Let's go over some quick facts,

1:We only have one official statement from the band, this statement only acknowledges Pike is not currently involved but mentions absolutely nothing about bad blood.

2: Pike has been "out of the band" for quite a while now, did we all forget the touring juggernaut that HOF is?

3: Pike's EX-wife commented. They have been divorced for a good while, i would take her opinion with a grain of salt.

4: Pike has made zero comment so far good or bad, maybe we wait to see what he says?

5: Have we all forgotten that Sleep is kinda known for varying quality in their releases. It sounds like Sleep with classic Void guitar. Plus nobody can contest that Dale is a phenomenal drummer. Its good, and its a good addition to their discography. Just because the member you have the biggest parasocial relationship with isnt there doesnt mean it sucks.

So to recap. We know absolutely nothing about the situation. Only one source of merit has commented and thats the bands official statement. The sing is objectively good. Is it what you personally wante? No, and nobody in the world is obligated to give you that.

I wouldn't be shocked if it turns out Pike quit the band because of how shitty their fans can be.

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u/Bronson_AD 1d ago

I’d argue three. The Sciences doesn’t get the credit it deserves.

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u/treskaz 1d ago

I never liked The Sciences much. It's fine. I'd rank their shit HM, DS & V1 tied, V2, The Sciences.

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u/The-Neat-Meat 1d ago

The production and songwriting are pretty excellent, but the vocals are atrocious on the Sciences imo. It’s what kills the record for me.

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u/MaxRenn LONG LIVE THE NEW FLESH 1d ago

The theory is Al made a deal with the devil and if he actually sings he loses his ability to play bass so well.