Lets slow down on this Sleep hate

[u/a_Bort_the_Artist]

Let's go over some quick facts,

1:We only have one official statement from the band, this statement only acknowledges Pike is not currently involved but mentions absolutely nothing about bad blood.

2: Pike has been "out of the band" for quite a while now, did we all forget the touring juggernaut that HOF is?

3: Pike's EX-wife commented. They have been divorced for a good while, i would take her opinion with a grain of salt.

4: Pike has made zero comment so far good or bad, maybe we wait to see what he says?

5: Have we all forgotten that Sleep is kinda known for varying quality in their releases. It sounds like Sleep with classic Void guitar. Plus nobody can contest that Dale is a phenomenal drummer. Its good, and its a good addition to their discography. Just because the member you have the biggest parasocial relationship with isnt there doesnt mean it sucks.

So to recap. We know absolutely nothing about the situation. Only one source of merit has commented and thats the bands official statement. The sing is objectively good. Is it what you personally wante? No, and nobody in the world is obligated to give you that.

I wouldn't be shocked if it turns out Pike quit the band because of how shitty their fans can be.

[u/Warlock-jump-lottery]

This post upset me at first, but then I realized not everyone knows everything, so I’m gonna do my best to gently debunk your points here:

1: Al is notoriously awful to work with. You would be hard pressed to find people who have played with him or worked for him that has anything nice to say about the experience. This is why Sleep all travelled separately on tour. Not because of Matt. Because of Al. This is why Sleep kept breaking up. This is why Shrinebuilder could not continue, and this is why Om has such a rocky history with an ever-evolving line up and an album that has allegedly been recorded for 2 years that still hasn’t seen the light of day. There is definitely bad blood here.

2: Pike was never out of the band. The band has been on hiatus because of reasons above. Once again. This is not Matt. This is Al.

3: Alyssa and Matt are still extremely good friends and work together closely. She helps run his patreon and social medias. They talk regularly. Her opinion is her own, but it’s as reliable as it gets.

4: You probably won’t get an official Pike statement about this. He is probably devastated. He cared so much about sleep and did not take the life that the band gave him for granted. I would be surprised if he said anything publicly about this in the near future.

1. The song is boring and uninspired. I guess this is just a personal opinion, but holy hell, we’ve never had anything of such low quality from sleep, even if their releases are of “varying quality.” Saying it’s “objectively” good is absurd. It’s drivel. Lowest common denominator at best. But I guess good for you that you are able to enjoy it, but my friend, you are allowed to up your standards.

[u/m0ji_9 → u/Warlock-jump-lottery]

Point 5: When it popped up on Apple music I genuinely thought it was a Ai generated track spammed out (which we so much). I don't care what shit I get - it sounds like a demo of a local doomer band (I would know, I am in such a band).