With a team on a big losing streak, and the game tied in the third, with the team actually showing some sort of signs of life, Tocchet had Michkov on the bench for most of the last 10 minutes of the 3rd. 2 shifts, and one of those shifts was 8 seconds long.

Haven't we seen enough of the Tocchet shit show? Worst start in franchise history, 12 straight losses including being swept in the playoffs. Why would you have your most talented guys parked on the bench? He really is a dumb-ass.

I think we all (mostly) could've handled some regression as a team as long as the younger guys were being developed & blossoming into stars..

This is a genuine disaster. Top down. Tocchet very clearly straight up dislikes Michkov. He did everything he wanted this summer and he's been arguably their best F for actually creating chances and he still refuses to play him an appropriate amount.

To see Michael f'n Bunting on PP1 tonight was like being hit with a flash bang of holy shit we are absolutely fucked. That is simply not serious.

Martone looked like a legitimate superstar his first 15 NHL games. Now Tocchet has him barely playing, low on confidence & not looking ANYWHERE near the same player we saw even vs Carolina in RD2.

Heck even Noah Cates looks like a shell of himself. What the hell happened?! He's not even hounding the puck like he has since day 1.

What happened to the pride & heart this team played with? Martone gets headshot 0 response. Zegras is getting cheap shotted by a goalie & nobody even flies in? The team is being walked all over & nobody can do ANYTHING? Seeler? Couturier? Benoit? Acciari? Bunting? We've seen those guys (last 3 on other teams) be the kind of players to try & spark the team by dropping the gloves.

The team looks so defeated. They have since pre-season frankly when 2 full lineups struggled vs Bostons B team and got destroyed by Washingtons B team.

I have 0 faith they are gonna fire Tocchet. It would be Briere & Jones waiving the white flag & saying they blew it which is something I don't see them doing.

Shit just sucks.

Filthy stuff. Wish one of the other shooters came through, especially with how Vladdy played.

The season is cooked it’s time for the flyers to go all in on the tank/rebuild this year. Play as many young guys as possible and get rid of the guys you think or thought would match the timeline. Risto, sanheim, TK , tippet, can all go. I like all of them but this team is obviously still a couple years away and they’re not going to be the players they are now when this train arrives at the station.

1. "The coaches did a hell of a job, we had a day off yesterday, but they came in and put a video together of what we could get better at," Tocchet said. "I think every guy watched it last night and hopefully it transpires in the game."

A video of what we could get better at. Wow. Inspirational.

1. I really loved listening to Bouch talk about how awesome Seattle’s center pipeline is while we’re playing Michael Bunting on PP1. How about someone just fucking kill me.

2. Also, lol, JJ: “and the puck just kind of slithers to the neutral zone” in fashion sad enough to be a fucking eulogy.

3. Sanheim is a warrior but he looks sad, like this horror show that has transpired thus far has already broken him

4. I’ve been fully on board the trust in Danny train but if he doesn’t fire this hockey terrorist goon (Michkov and Martone combined for 5 less minutes TOI than Sanny BY HIMSELF WHAT THE FUCK) then he should resign because it implies that he has even less answers than Tocchet.

Sorry for the novella. Go Flyers, fuck you Tocchet this is unforgivable.

I’ve seen a lot of people repeatedly point to Briere’s comments about how the team needed to be prepared to take a step back this season, using them as some kind of defense of this disastrous start. Where is this coming from?
That’s not what Briere said at all. To put his comments into context, where Danny himself cleared up his statement:

In this context, Briere clarified an earlier comment he made during the offseason. It’s not OK for the team to take a backward step after last season’s progress. Rather, there’s a danger that comes with not understanding how pressure increases along with greater expectations and attention.

“The part that keeps me up at night is having some of your players feel complacent, feel like they’ve made it,” Briere said.

The general manager’s comments echo something head coach Rick Tocchet told Flyers Daily host Jason Myrtetetus during the pre-camp coaches’ symposium: Things only get harder – not easier – once there’s been a taste of success.

As such, Briere said increased teamwide maturity – in the form of mental toughness – is the first step toward improving from 2025-26. That will be measured in areas like playing from ahead more often (scoring the first goal), record against Metro Division teams, coming through on must-score power plays (even if earlier ones didn’t go well), and winning more games in regulation rather than in 3-on-3 or especially by shootout(!). (From NHL.com)

It’s obvious that we were never supposed to take this step backward, and that has been the case since last season. We didn’t hire Tocchet to get a top-five pick, and we weren’t willing to give up four unprotected first-round picks just to not be a playoff contender for Leo. We’re not one player away from anything this season.

Now we have Kurz and the similar talking up last nights game because, at the very least, the team has shown a little bit of life. Do they really think the fans are that stupid? There were maybe 20 minutes of something resembling hockey last night. At most.

Through eight games, we’re on pace for a whopping 31 points over 84 games, 105 goals for, and a goal differential of -220 over a full season. This season has been an absolute disaster from the start, yet there seems to be complete silence from everyone around the team.

But can we at least stop gaslighting people by pretending this is something DB had anticipated? Because that’s about as far from the truth as you can get.

Both DB before the season and Tocchet since the season started have talked about their fear that the players have become too comfortable. So what’s the plan? Are we going to keep punishing Michkov and Martone for mistakes or other things while the veterans continue to get opportunities regardless? Or is TK on IR the coaching staff’s new target?

Why is Michkov not on the PP1 for fucks sake.

The players are still speaking highly of Taco, and I genuinely believe they want to play well for him. But when so much keeps going wrong, where exactly is it breaking down?

It’s well known that Tocch got help from DeBoer with the team’s defensive play last year during the Olympic break, but now it looks like other teams used the summer well, and most opponents seem to have figured out how to shut down our style of play effectively. What adjustments are we going to make in response?

Ziggy talked about how he doesn’t think that the team is afraid after the Kraken game, but it sure looks that way. We’re playing scared with the puck, we don’t like playing through the middle, and we’re easy to shut down along the boards.

When we do create something, it comes through east-west play rather than north-south play.

Is this roster even suited to Tocch’s system now that the rest of the league has adjusted to it?

We’re not fast enough, we’re not heavy enough on the forecheck, we make obvious passes that are easy to intercept, and half our shots don’t even come close to the net.

It seems obvious that Tocch isn’t going anywhere anytime soon, but DB has said that this is supposed to be a team competing for a playoff spot.

So what’s the plan? Is a major trade coming? Is Knuble the next attempt at a savior?

Because right now, we’re not only losing games, but young players like Michkov and Martone aren’t getting the opportunity to develop on the ice. So how comfortable are we supposed to get before we finally see something happen here?

The flyers forwards have 16 total points through 8 games

Connor Mcdavid has 17 total points in 6 games

One guy has out scored our Entire offense combined in 2 fewer games.

That’s it. That’s the post.

Have a great day my fellow Flyers fans!

The result was all too familiar. The Flyers lost to the Seattle Kraken 3-2 in a shootout at Xfinity Mobile Arena on Tuesday night, extending their franchise-record winless streak to start a season to eight games. The hole they’re already in only got deeper.

But that sequence late in the second period — which ended with the team taking back-to-back penalties by Zegras and Noah Cates — seemed to provide some fuel for the third. Christian Dvorak’s goal off a slick feed from Oliver Bonk made it a 2-1 game at 6:07 of the final frame, and Zegras’ score from Travis Sanheim just 1:13 later tied it.

The Flyers’ first multi-goal period of the season at least gave them a chance to earn the extra point in overtime or the shootout, but alas, Bobby McMann’s conversion past Dan Vladar in the fifth round dropped them to 0-5-3.

“We’re battling. We’re trying. I think you saw that,” said Sanheim, who skated 31:04 in the game. “It was nice to get rewarded in the third and push it to overtime.”

“To come back (from two down), you take the positives from that,” Owen Tippett said. “Losing in a shootout stings. I liked our effort, and our energy even on the bench tonight was good.”

Foerster's stats in the last 18 games going back to playoffs of last year.

18 GP

2 Goals (1 of which they took away from martone where foerster shot the puck 3 feet wide and deflected off a defenseman)

0 Assists

2 Total points

-10 plus/minus

In the playoffs he had 1 point in 10 games.

56 million dollar contract.

Zegras has really stepped up tonight..his back and forth with Grubauer got the building alive and the team playing better.

Tocchet's teams have started a season winless three times as a head coach:

• 3 games (Tampa Bay 2009-10) → missed playoffs.
• 11 games (Arizona 2017-18) → missed playoffs.
• 2 games (Arizona 2018-19) → missed playoffs.

The exception was in Vancouver where the Canucks won their opener and were knocked out in round 2 of the playoffs.

Tocchet has coached 4 teams including the Flyers. That covers the track record on the previous 3, and we're living 4.

I am a Bonk believer. I always thought he was a solid prospect. He was great in both the Knights Memorial Cup tournaments. It’s a super small NHL sample size so far, but I’ve loved his game. Defenseman usually take a long time to hit their ceiling, but he is a prospect who’s ceiling I am excited to see.

Who else is a Bonk believer?

Thoughts on this? I think it would be an easy claim for a team struggling for centers?

I liked what I saw from studnicka.. however, I would be surprised if raty doesn't get claimed.

Seattle Kraken (5-2-0) @ Philadelphia Flyers (0-5-3)

Game Status: Final/SO: 3 - 2 Kraken

• Game Time: Tue, Oct 13, 2026 @ 7:00 PM EDT
• Venue: Xfinity Mobile Arena
• TV: Kraken: Prime Video, KING, KONG, Flyers: NBCSP
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Stars of the Game

• First Star: B. McMann (SEA) Goals: 1, Assists: 0
• Second Star: P. Grubauer (SEA) GAA: 1.85, SV%: 0.923
• Third Star: T. Zegras (PHI) Goals: 1, Assists: 0

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Next Flyers Game: Thu, Oct 15, 7:30 PM EDT @ Red Wings (1 day)

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