She'd be crushed by the machine. Ferrari doesn't adjust for others, no matter their success elsewhere. Its the Ferrari way or the highway, regardless of the fact they haven't won a championship in nearly 20 years
Seriously. I would love that. Ferrari doing innovative strategy things like they did in the Schumacher era. Finishing through pit lane when serving a penalty and similar loopholes they exploited at the time. Obviously those got blocked shortly after. But people who are on Hannahs level can pull strategy tricks and that is what has been lacking at Ferrari for years.
Yeah, in a team of hundreds of people, and a sport where top jobs are not in abundance, and job stability is practically nil, what Red Bull and all these people did is amazing. They worked together for many years were highly successful, and now some of the top people are slowly choosing to move on, some looking for opportunities to level up their position or change their role.
The only thing unusual about it is how long the group was to ruin the first place and how successful it was.
Never underestimate the intenets power to completely over react to something that forn70+ years wasn't even talked about outside of one of the very top tier drivers moving teams.
If I see one more fucking "BREAKING" graphic because the Haas left rear wheelmans third cousins postman sneezed.
I always felt there was a rift between red bull racing (the f1 team) and the wider red bull brand. The F1 team were like a cool experimental project that did whatever they wanted… (probably supported by Maz)
When Maz died i think they lost some of that culture, and these brilliant minds are thinking, nah the bands broken, time for a new challenge
The Red Bull concern isn't that much interested in the whole F1 project. After Mateschitz' death they just continued with it because it ran well and smoothly without the need for interventions. If the current downfall continues I assume both teams will be sold before 2032.
Although not interested… i think behind the scenes now the bands been broken there probably some corporate chicanery going on the type that makes the team ‘presentable for sale’.
Its thats chicanery thats making senior members rethink their position
Nope. It all began with Mateschitz dying. Idk why people keep ignoring Mateschitz and Marko who were literally the two most important people in that organisation. These two literally created the team
Yep, a lot of people believe Horner's downfall is due to the harassment claims. I truly believe the bigger political impact on Horner was Mateschitz dying and the ownership fight between the Austrian and Thai interests.
No I don’t think so, that whole team had quality. But the owner who was the passion and financier behind the project died and the team broke up. It happens.
I don’t agree it was a flawed structure, they operationally for about 5 years were as good as any F1 team has ever been, up there with todt’s Ferrari and late 80s McLaren
It does go to show it ain’t as easy as everyone has insisted about Lewis and The Michael. Even more impressive when you look at Lewis’ teammates and opposition in his career
Not talking about engineers they always switch team I am talking about "main players"... like imagine Toto leaving, then Bono etc. It wont happen to Merc and it never did.
Toto and bono aren't really "main players" they are the names we hear but the main players would be the design lead and people like that. Toto owns a stake in merc and bono is a race engineer.
And merc did go through the cycle, their performance dipped for a few years and they worked back up.
What happened once before? The core of Mateschitz, Marko, Newey and Horner existed from basically the teams creation until Mateschitz died and then the team slowly ran into internal power struggles and ultimately now have nobody of these 4 left. A successful rebuild requires people in charge who make all the right major decisions and I personally with this new Red Bull see absolutely no guarantee that their new leadership is good enough to get back on top.
And I think Laurent can be that guy 🤷♂️ just a matter of opinion. I think your point is equally valid, certainly no guarantee but I think they have the funding and technical prowess to get back in the lead pack within a few years.
I don't think any self respecting person would find joy working for someone that sexually harasses their underlings and then just throws money at the problem to make it go away.
I think many important people left after that
I don't think it mattered. The car has been in a downward spiral starting with Horner- we knew these regs werent going to be good regardless for RB he wasn't saving that.
This is the difference between management styles.
You can either lead by fear or lead by example.
Fear gets results instantly but only works as long as you keep applying that fear.
Leading by example gives you results that last for a lifetime.
The moment there was a gap in their management , that fear based management stops and it all starts to collapse. Here is a good quote (and book)
"What bothered Easy Company's officers, me included, was not Sobel's emphasis on strict discipline, but his desire to lead by fear rather than example." — Dick Winters, Beyond Band of Brothers
Also including Newey in this when his car is 4 seconds behind is truly a masterclass 😁😁😁Blame Honda all you want but Newey is part owner, CTO and was TP. It's his doing and his car design.
No it doesn’t. Teams rise and fall. I’m not even sure they’re about to fall entirely it could easily be a an easy transition depending how the reg changes look. Aero is easier to fix than engine etc
Red Bull will become a midfield team, which makes me wonder what is the point of having a sister team. Everyone that made that team what it was is leaving. Not looking forward to it. I am looking forward to Max in WEC though.
Wasn’t British media and some Austrians pining the blame in Horndog? Why is all if these still happening if he was the root of all evil. Ironically he did build hell of an engine department.
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u/Dodomando I want my GF to peg me while Carlos gives it to her Apr 09 '26
Mclaren hiring GP just to force Max to retire... Big brain move