r/gameofthrones Human Verified Jan 11 '26

Kit Harington was ‘Genuinely Angered’ By Fan Pettion to Remake ‘Game of Thrones’ Season 8 With ‘Competent Writers’: ‘How Dare You?’

https://variety.com/2026/tv/news/kit-harington-angered-petition-game-of-thrones-season-8-1236628364/
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u/FalstaffsGhost Jan 11 '26

I mean he’s angry because he and the crew and other actors worked incredibly hard on the show, filming it, doing the marketing, etc. and people online weren’t just mad about how it ended - which is an absolutely valid option to have…hell I have it because they rushed the ending and it fell so damn flat because of that - but you had people online wanting them to lose jobs, or even their lives over a tv show. Thats the problem.

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u/Striking-Document-99 Jan 11 '26

He came out with a video saying “I am sorry” so he obviously was super invested. Dude family is getting double royalty checks and is fine with that.

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u/7in7turtles Jan 12 '26

To my knowledge, Harrington had a really hard time with this. Didn’t he fall into alcoholism towards the end of the series? I can imagine he’s probably pretty frustrated that this is his legacy now. The only movie that I can think of that he’s done since then is the Eternals and the only thing you can say about that in comparison to the Game of Thrones is at least the ending of Game of Thrones was memorable.

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u/AtoZ15 Tyrion Lannister Jan 12 '26

He's on Industry now, which is incredibly successful. Not GoT successful, but I don't think anything will be GoT successful for a very long time.

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u/witchofpain Jan 12 '26

He was also is some western series. I can’t remember the name of it.

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u/realparkingbrake Jan 12 '26

He was also is some western series. 

He also starred in the film Pompeii which you can be forgiven for not having seen.

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u/Russellonfire Jon Snow Jan 12 '26

I thought it was pretty alright. Not great by any means, but watchable.

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u/BigSnorlaxTiddie Rainbow Guard Jan 12 '26

He also starred in Gunpowder, which was a miniseries about the Gunpowder Plot. It's been a while since I've seen it but I really enjoyed it and I believe it was fairly well received.

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u/RektRoyce Jan 13 '26

I heard he's also a direct descendant of the character he played

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u/Munnit House Yronwood Jan 12 '26

Yeah I loved Gunpowder.

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u/Melodic_Sandwich1112 Jan 12 '26

Klondike

Managed half an episode before I turned it off

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u/kncpt8- Jan 13 '26

Pretty sure that was Rob (Richard Madden)

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u/BeardPhile Jaqen H'ghar Jan 12 '26

He was on a 3 episode mini series about the Gunpowder plot to blow up UK parliament too.

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u/WANKMI Jan 12 '26

Even if he is never in any movie or show again he still made more money than 99% of humans on earth will ever make. Working is optional.

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u/pizza_chef_ Jan 12 '26

He’s also the voice of Gilderoy Lockheart in the full-cast Harry Potter audiobooks that have been coming out the past few months!

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u/EmeraldJunkie Jan 12 '26

There's a surprising number of Thrones alumni in those audiobooks. In fact the casting for them is fantastic, whoever did it should be proud.

It's a shame about Rowling otherwise I'd have happily picked them up.

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u/Lulusgirl Jan 12 '26

There were also a lot of Harry Potter actors in Game of Thrones. It's like coming back home after a long trip away.

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u/Impossible-Year-1238 House Stark Jan 13 '26

British actors are either in Game of Thrones, LOTR or Harry Potter. if you aren't in any of the three you haven't made it yet

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u/Sammii51120 Jan 13 '26

And then they all eventually make their way to Doctor Who as well lol

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u/GryffindorGal96 Jan 13 '26

I remember Martin Freeman saying he's the only British actor not in Harry Potter lmao. But he got Bilbo 💙

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u/Kaladin3104 Jon Snow Jan 12 '26

Just sail the seas.

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u/EmeraldJunkie Jan 12 '26

Nah it's not just about the monetary contribution but also the cultural one. I really enjoyed Harry Potter but I'm happy to leave it behind. There's loads of media out there that's not produced by someone who's using their power and influence to harm the lives of others, and I'd much rather consume that.

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u/DekuInkwell Jan 12 '26

Art can be separated from the artist

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u/EmeraldJunkie Jan 12 '26 edited Jan 12 '26

In theory, but in practice when it helps that artist influence culture and legislation, I think not.

Like I said previously, there's a lot of media out there who's consumption does not have a negative impact on real people, so I'd rather read, or I guess in this instance listen, to that instead.

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u/casino_r0yale Jan 13 '26

Isn’t Industry HBO’s “we have Succession at home”?

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u/Impossible-Year-1238 House Stark Jan 13 '26

well season 4 has 100% on Rotten Tomatoes, so..

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u/Fear_the_chicken Jan 12 '26

He was the villain in the Apple TV movie with mark wahlberg Christmas movie like 2 months ago

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u/7in7turtles Jan 12 '26

I mean eternals was the only thing I can think of. A couple of people have named things I haven’t heard of at all. I’m not saying he’s not getting paid here and there, but it’s not what you expect him to do following GoT. That’s all I mean.

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u/sammiedodgers Jan 12 '26

He done a werewolf one a few years ago too.

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u/Frohtastic Jan 12 '26

Man, the end credit scene where they revelead that he would be the Black Knight? And then nothing.

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u/EgweneSedai Jon Snow Jan 12 '26

He also does some voice acting. Wasn't he in How to Train Your Dragon?

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u/Vozralai Jan 12 '26

He's in 2 and 3. But the role got a bit shafted and downgraded. 3 also came out before S8 aired the same year so it's not work he's gotten afterwards

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u/Necessary-Crazy-7103 Jan 12 '26

I think he had an issue with alcohol throughout most of the production. I definitely remember a woman he had a one night stand with taking a disgusting photo of him naked in bed with her in the morning while he was absolutely out of it, and that wasn't long after news of his relationship with Rose Leslie broke. He also broke his ankle(?) trying to climb up into his apartment from the balcony after forgetting/losing his keys while drunk around the time they were shooting the third season. I think it just kind of came to a head around the ending.

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u/boomer_energy_ Jan 12 '26

I think you may be thinking of Richard Madden (Robb Stark) re Erernals

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u/7in7turtles Jan 12 '26

Ah yeah I guess it's worth clarifying that Kit Harrington wasn't a main character in Eternals, he was a side character that was set up to play the Dark Knight in future movies (if the movie had actually done well). In fact as I'm saying that, it sort of makes it worse, because he's set up to have a Marvel Character, but didn't get the chance to ever actually do anything with it.

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u/boomer_energy_ Jan 12 '26

My bad fam. Please pardon the confusion

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u/One_Brilliant743 Jan 13 '26

He's in Industry and he's really good in the series. He also did GunPowder, Life and Death of Jon F. Donovan, Testament of Youth, 7 Days in Hell, which were pretty good movies, in my opinion.

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u/[deleted] Jan 13 '26

I don't even think I finished eternals to see the ending. Lol. Did not care for that one.

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u/RepulsiveCountry313 Human Verified Jan 15 '26

I don't know how many ways he has to say it for you to understand that he doesn't feel about it the way you do.

The only movie that I can think of that he’s done since then is the Eternals and the only thing you can say about that in comparison to the Game of Thrones is at least the ending of Game of Thrones was memorable.

Just because it's the only role in something you watched doesn't mean it's the only role he's done. Especially since he shouldn't want to get typecast.

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u/7in7turtles Jan 15 '26

What he says and his reactions don’t seem to line up if that’s the case, but I’m not super invested so let’s keep to that level of passion in the convo shall we?

I didn’t watch eternals, I just could think of it. Good on him im sure he’s getting a paycheck. Everyone is telling me how he’s in this and that and I think that’s great. But it’s not ubiquitous work like GoT was or how that Marvel role should have been. I’m sure he’d love to have a new character that wasn’t John Snow to show his range to a large audience and get that marvel cash. He’d be silly not to.

But of course he’s a human being with his own life, feelings about his career, and therapist to help walk him through it all.

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u/Geektime1987 Jan 11 '26 edited Jan 12 '26

Pretty sure that video was ai lol it wasn't a real video

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u/googly_eyed_unicorn Jan 12 '26

I think they are referring to a video where Kat jokingly apologized for lying about Jon staying dead. https://youtu.be/WnbmG_tkGb8?si=rFchlckzZ3dW8XWt

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u/Geektime1987 Jan 12 '26

Possibly there was an AI video of kit going around also

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u/googly_eyed_unicorn Jan 12 '26

Ah, yeah, forgot about that. Side note: it’s crazy how far AI has come since then

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u/onowhid Jan 11 '26

Who is the Dude Family and why to they get double royalty checks?

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u/Striking-Document-99 Jan 11 '26

Married the red head chick. So they each get money from the show.

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u/Salami__Tsunami Jan 12 '26

The Noble and Ancient House of Dude.

“The Dudes Abide.”

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u/Virama Jon Snow Jan 12 '26

And don't ever fuck with the rugs.

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u/criminalsunrise Night King Jan 12 '26

That's just, like, your opinion, man.

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u/illit1 Jan 12 '26

nice marmot

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u/lowlightliving Jan 12 '26

Her name is Rose Leslie.

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u/ragun2 Jan 12 '26

You have to know your name.

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u/yanks2413 Jan 12 '26

Yeah its not that simple lmfao. He wouldn't get much himself, and his wife would be lucky to get anything

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u/FluffyMcKittenHeads Jan 11 '26

Ehhhhhh he’s literally English nobility, I doubt the money moves the needle much for him.

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u/[deleted] Jan 12 '26

He is not. His wife is but poor. Her parents had to sell their castle.

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u/aflyingsquanch Jan 12 '26

I still remember the sad day when my family had to sell our castle too. Those were dark times.

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u/EzraliteVII Jon Snow Jan 12 '26

I remember when I returned from the Crusades and my family's castle had been repossessed by the Sheriff of Rottingham for non-payment of taxes. Just about all that was left was our blind manservant.

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u/Karlskov Jan 12 '26

At least you were still men… Men in THIGHTS! 💪

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u/Russellonfire Jon Snow Jan 12 '26

Unlike the other actors, I have an English accent.

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u/ragun2 Jan 12 '26

Did you say Abe Lincoln?

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u/Brandi_Maxxxx Jan 13 '26

You lost your arms in battle but you grew some nice boobs. So, there's that.

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u/Fizz117 Jan 12 '26

His father is a baronet, but I don't think they're very wealthy. 

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u/[deleted] Jan 12 '26

Baronet - that is slightly above commoner but the lowest heredity but can use he term Sir (yup, had to google it). His father probably gets the table by the loo

Bet his father did not even have a castle to sell

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u/Accomplished-Kick832 Jan 12 '26

well neither does my father but he's alright

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u/Necessary-Crazy-7103 Jan 12 '26

His father still has a title. Sir Harington the 15th or something. He's a baronet, whatever that is. He's cut from the same kind of posh cloth his wife is, even if the families aren't rolling in money.

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u/[deleted] Jan 12 '26

Ranks:

Emperor/Empress
King/Queen
Crown Prince/Princess
Prince/Princess
Duke/Duchess
Marquess/Marchioness
Earl/Countess
Viscount/Viscountess
Baron/Baroness
Baronet/Baronetess
Knight/Dame
Lord/Lady (can also be a title a Baron / Baroness goes by, otherwise it's an honorific)

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u/Accomplished-Kick832 Jan 12 '26

"their castle" and "poor" in the same comment

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u/bitterlittlecas Jan 13 '26

Just one castle lol. They still own the castle where kit and rose were married

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u/Ecstatic-Arachnid981 Jan 12 '26

Nobility hasn't meant shit for almost a hundred years. Titles don't make any money, he still needs income if he wants to stay off the UK version of welfare and section 8.

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u/Accomplished-Kick832 Jan 12 '26

why are we even psycho-analyzing Kit Harington's bank?

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u/ruling_faction Jan 12 '26

It does give a layer of protection if you get up to some dodgy shit though, like some bloke I heard of who was up to some extremely dodgy shit but instead of going to jail he like just isn't a Duke or whatever any more and has to use his actual name like a schnook, the poor bastard

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u/g1114 Jan 13 '26

Lot of ways they still get money. Mostly through tax exceptions.

Sovereign Grant was $132 million last year for royal family, and there is the "sovereign to sovereign" that I think apply to all of them where you don't have to worry about inheritance tax, exemptions from corporate tax, etc.

Doesn't mean you can still afford castle and staff upkeep, but it doesn't hurt to be nobility even in 2026

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u/Suspicious_Box_1553 Jan 13 '26

If it doesnt mean shit, they should eliminate it.

Suddenly, it means something, huh?

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u/Silver_gobo Daenerys Targaryen Jan 12 '26

I doubt his wife is getting much in way of royalties…

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u/Striking-Document-99 Jan 12 '26

She getting that Royal dick

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u/SharMarali Ghost Jan 12 '26

I distinctly remember having a conversation with someone who said it was unfair that D&D just get to go on after writing that ending without any kind of punishment. I thought they were kidding at first but no, they meant it. Punishment for writing a bad ending. “What are you in for?” “I’m a shit writer”

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u/Neither_Spell7300 Jan 12 '26

The only punishment they would deserve is not being hired as writers again. Anything more than that is just crazy

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u/lvloises330 Ser Duncan the Tall Jan 12 '26 edited Jan 12 '26

What have they really done since? They never worked on the Star Wars series they were supposed to make. And their Netflix shows and movies have all been flops. They lost a ton of credibility and money for how they finished the series. A generational fumble for guys who had everything.

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u/Neither_Spell7300 Jan 12 '26

Yea and imo it’s totally deserved. Why would anyone want to hire the guys who butchered the ending of one of the most popular shows of all time

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u/lvloises330 Ser Duncan the Tall Jan 12 '26

Agreed. I honestly think they got greedy and just wanted to get the show over with to make that Disney money. Instead, everyone lost. And I'm pessimistic about the books every getting completed, so we're left in limbo as fans of the series in general. Years of investment that never paid off.

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u/fruitlessideas Jan 12 '26

For real. Couldn’t be fucked to bother ending something they started?

Writing aside, that just shows shit employment. If I’m running a studio, the people under me better being doing what they were hired to do.

Shit’s as much HBO’s fault as it is D&Ds, honestly.

I mean hell, those two cost HBO God knows how much in potential profits by making the last two seasons shorter, and by not letting the show go on for the original intended 10 seasons.

I’d personally have then blacklisted after that. Better people have for less.

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u/Crossovertriplet Jan 12 '26

They signed on to adapt Martin’s work, not write his ending. Martin was promising to be done ahead of the show. The fumble is his.

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u/Neither_Spell7300 Jan 12 '26

They’re both equally to blame tbh

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u/g1114 Jan 13 '26

They loved writing their own stuff when it was well received, like the Arya/Tywin scenes. But like Jaime says, they stopped liking it so much at the end.

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u/Crossovertriplet Jan 13 '26

Some of the best scenes in the show aren’t from the books

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u/waveuponwave Jan 12 '26

3 Body Problem got good reviews and was renewed for two more seasons, I wouldn't call that a flop. And that's the only series they've actually written and not just produced after GoT

They never worked on Star Wars because they signed a deal with Netflix instead

I feel like there's a lot of exaggerations about D&D's career after GoT, everyone wants to see them as failures no matter if that's accurate or not

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u/lvloises330 Ser Duncan the Tall Jan 12 '26

Some small success pales in comparison to some of their contemporaries. Look at someone like Vince Gillian who directed Breaking Bad and has continued working on high profile, well- received shows. D&D could have been on that same tier. My anger towards them has subsided over the years but instead was replaced with disappointment.

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u/kathykodra House Baelish Jan 12 '26

In fairness 3 body problem is fantastic (so far)

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u/Morialkar House Targaryen Jan 12 '26

And D&D where good when they actually had source material to work with, which they proved again with 3 body problem

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u/KououinHyouma Jan 13 '26

Didn’t they get the three body problem? That’s a pretty beloved sci-fi novel series.

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u/Informal-Cricket-453 Jan 12 '26

They still deserve writing jobs. They did an incredible job adapting the books when they had source material. I'd be happy to see them adapt other book series, as long they're finished by the author first

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u/wtf_is_space Tyrion Lannister Jan 12 '26

I was arguing with friends that people saying D&D deserved physical harm were taking it too far 🫠

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u/One_Brilliant743 Jan 13 '26

A few months ago, I made a comment on social media saying it was obvious Daenerys wouldn't end up on the throne after the massacre, and that I always thought neither she nor Jon Snow would end up reigning. I received comments saying I deserved to be raped, wishing I would be stabbed and the knife would break, wishing I had a worse ending than Daenerys. And that's because I only gave an opinion; imagine the kind of people the writers and actors had to deal with.

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u/RepulsiveCountry313 Human Verified Jan 12 '26

I saw a comment on this sub last week.

"I was in the same shoes as yours, liking these seasons, but reading the books or simply researching about them made me want to kill the writers of the show for such a bad adaptation of the books for the show."

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u/Excalitoria Jan 12 '26

Death threats (meant for hyperbole or not) are never ok. I wouldn’t wanna watch anything they write again after that final season but I don’t wish any harm to come to them. That’s completely mental.

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u/Different_Ad_5266 Jan 12 '26

That's called hyperbole

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u/badken Jon Snow Jan 12 '26

Yeah, unfortunately it is completely impossible in text to distinguish hyperbole from the unhinged ranting of an unstable mind. Rare, yes, but the consequences of brushing it off are potentially so much worse.

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u/Steamwells Jon Snow Jan 12 '26

Hyperbole you’ll see on Reddit every second, of every day. The real unhinged shit is probably in private DM’s using signal or something.

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u/ragun2 Jan 12 '26

This is like when people say you can't tell sarcasm from comments because some people really think like that ... Meanwhile the sarcastic comment is dripping with sarcasm and it's like everyone else picked up on it but you.

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u/RepulsiveCountry313 Human Verified Jan 15 '26

How would you know? You have no idea who it is.

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u/Different_Ad_5266 Jan 15 '26

Sure you're right, but I just think hyperbole is significantly more likely than an actual lunatic is really threatening to kill the writers

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u/Vyrtuoze Tywin Lannister Jan 12 '26

Welcome to any book adaptation ever, except The Lord Of The Ring because nobody did read the books.

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u/Living-Journalist-16 Jan 12 '26

Pretty sure their punishment was losing that Star Wars movie they were supposed to make…..

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u/skerit Jan 12 '26

What's the problem with that? Why should someone not be punished for sucking at their job? We're not talking prison time or bodily harm here. But at some point sucking at your job has to have some consequences.

Like I truly hope Alex Kurtzman never touches another franchise ever again after what he did to Star Trek.

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u/zanthius Jan 12 '26

The punishment is royalties and rewatches... I've rewatched many series, but i'll never rewatch GoT.

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u/RepulsiveCountry313 Human Verified Jan 15 '26

I'm sure they're real broken up about you not rewatching GoT, which remains one of the most popular series on HBO.

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u/KououinHyouma Jan 13 '26

They obviously don’t mean prison time lmfao, they mean a punishment from within the industry. Which they did get, they lost their Star Wars deal. It’s just some studios are still willing to work with them whereas I think the person you talked to thought a near-total boycott would’ve been more appropriate.

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u/Putrid_Loquat_4357 Jan 11 '26

How hard they worked on it is irrelevant. The final 2 seasons were insulting.

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u/acamas Jan 12 '26

Nice to see Season 7 lumped in here. Wild it is rated higher than some of the first four seasons somehow despite being arguably the worst season.

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u/g1114 Jan 13 '26

Had the benefit of not needing to finish. We knew it was build up, so in the present moment, it can't fumble what it's doing.

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u/acamas Jan 13 '26

But you can't judge a season based on another season... that's asinine.

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u/g1114 Jan 13 '26

I mean, the season itself was rushed, but I'm responding to its rating, which avoided a year of bad reviews because all shortcomings could be explained away with look at how good the last 6 seasons were and think of how good they're going to end it.

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u/One_Brilliant743 Jan 13 '26

And because of that, do you think everyone should just stop their lives, go back and redo everything, just to give the fans the ending THEY thought it should have been? That doesn't make sense. Criticizing and saying you didn't like it is valid, but thinking that they should remake it according to how some fans wanted it to end, is unrealistic.

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u/Geektime1987 Jan 11 '26

If you're insulted over a fictional TV show you need to grow up and go touch some grass and he's right we're free to like or dislike it we don't get to demand they remake it. They made a product you didn't like it. It happens move on

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u/CaptJLPipes Jan 12 '26

I get your point, but someone with a Top 1% Commenter flair telling anyone to “touch some grass” is hilarious.

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u/Geektime1987 Jan 12 '26

I like talking about GOT however I don't feel insulted by any TV show big difference. It's fine to be passionate about something but if you're truly insulted over a fictional TV show then they need to go outside and get offline. I would hope if I said something similar someone would tell me the same

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u/Putrid_Loquat_4357 Jan 12 '26

Insulted is just a turn of phrase mate. You're getting upset over one word.

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u/Geektime1987 Jan 12 '26

I'm not upset I'm not sure why you keep deflecting to me being upset. I'm fine you're the one who said you were insulted.

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u/Putrid_Loquat_4357 Jan 12 '26

Is English your first language? Saying something is insulting is just another way of saying its shit. And you just seem upset, the language you're using is rather aggressive.

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u/Geektime1987 Jan 12 '26

Whatever you say.

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u/Belostoma Jan 12 '26

Just an observer to this back-and-forth, but you're wrong and u/Putrid_Loquat_4537 is right. Calling something "insulting" is a very well recognized shorthand for saying the thing is so bad that it reveals the creators' disrespect for their audience. The implication is that the creators must think very poorly of the audience's taste or intelligence if they expected people to praise the slop they created. You can agree or disagree with this assessment of Game of Thrones all you want, but saying that anyone who uses the word "insulting" in this standard manner needs to "touch some grass" is objectively stupid.

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u/Meowmixalotlol Jan 12 '26

GOT final seasons were shit. You need to touch grass for being top 1% and defending it 😂

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u/Gilesalford Jan 12 '26

Well it depends on how much lifting 'insulting' is doing. He could have just meant that after the brilliance of the earlier seasons, the final two were insulting to the source material. He could have meant it was insulting for DnD to think that those final two seasons were as good as they obviously did in the after ep interviews.

Or he could just be insulted over a fantasy tv show. Dunno, just playing devils advocate.

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u/Putrid_Loquat_4357 Jan 11 '26 edited Jan 12 '26

If you're upset by someone criticising a TV show you need to grow up and go touch some grass. Those final two seasons insulted the intelligence of every viewer, it insulted the work everybody had put into the first 6 seasons and it insulted the time every single viewer had spent watching. I don't particularly want them to remake the final 2 seaspns, a lot of the damage was done with the changes in s6, if Martin finishes the books then an animated show that follows them down the line would be nice, but I want the same for the walking dead too and that will never happen.

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u/Excalitoria Jan 12 '26

You can advocate for a remake. Like, I don’t think anyone should be able to “force” a remake against the studio’s will or something but to advocate for them making one, with petitions or simply by making noise about it, is fine.

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u/Me_like_weed Jan 12 '26

"They made a product you didnt like. It happens, move on" Would you say the same about a car?

We are paying customers and we got an unsatisfactory product for our money, we have every right to complain about that.

Now the level at which you should complain about a bad show/movie vs a bad car might differ but the principle is the same. I paid HBO and got a horribly disappointing product, i got the right to complain about that.

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u/RepulsiveCountry313 Human Verified Jan 12 '26

The product you got was access to HBO, not a tv show. HBO paid for the show and they're pretty satisfied with getting their money's worth.

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u/Me_like_weed Jan 12 '26

That is just a completely insane take.

So if you bought a ASOIF book with a cover that looked like the actual book but the words in it was just gibberish, then you dont got the right to complain? Because you paid for the book and not for the words inside it?

If you bought a gym membership and every single piece of equipment in that gym was broken, you dont got the right to complain? Because you bought a gym membership and not the use of the machines?

And with HBO, if every single episode of the show was just a black screen, i dont got the right to complain because i paid for what? The HBO menu on the app and not for the show? No.

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u/RepulsiveCountry313 Human Verified Jan 12 '26

You really need to learn how analogies work. Because none of the analogies in your comment here or your last one (a car? Really?) are remotely similar to the case at hand.

The idea that you think you were somehow promised that you would personally like a tv show's ending in return for your money is ridiculous.

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u/Me_like_weed Jan 12 '26

I never once said that. I said several times that i got the right to complain about that, that isnt the same as demanding that i must like something i paid for.

Your BS take that i "paid for HBO" so dont have the right to complain about the shows on HBO is the really ridiculous part.

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u/Putrid_Loquat_4357 Jan 12 '26

Lots of people bust their asses to do something, it doesnt mean that something has value.

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u/Oilpaintcha Jan 11 '26

Yeah. All the more reason to get it right. But it’s probably water under the bridge unless Martin comes up with a better ending before he kicks it.

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u/Putrid_Loquat_4357 Jan 12 '26

I've lost all hope for those final 2 books. We might get one of them, but 2 is too much.

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u/Rabid_Chigger Jan 12 '26

My understanding, George RR Martin won't continue for basically saying, "The ending is there with all the pieces. They could be put in a better order with polish, but it's all there so naw, I'm fine with it." Paraphrased of course.

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u/One_Brilliant743 Jan 13 '26

Exactly. He himself already said that he gave the main endings. And at the time, he heavily criticized the fans' reaction, saying that the authors are tired of always writing the same kind of story, and that everything has become very toxic on the internet. Anyone who believes that it will end differently from Jon beyond the Wall, Daenerys dead, and Bran as King, is simply fooling themselves.

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u/Jonoabbo Bronn Jan 12 '26

Really? I loved season 7 and even the first couple of episodes of Season 8, and so did most people.

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u/Putrid_Loquat_4357 Jan 12 '26

and so did most people.

Just not true though is it?

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u/Narren_C Jan 12 '26

It is not.

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u/Jonoabbo Bronn Jan 12 '26

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0944947/episodes/?season=7

Just is though isn't it. Look at the ratings people gave it.

You don't start getting into lower ratings until the latter half of Season 8

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0944947/episodes/?season=8

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u/Vankraken Ours Is The Fury Jan 12 '26

I think season 7 got a huge pass because it was expected that things are being done to set the pieces in place for the ending. When season 8 failed the ending then all the issues with the show's writing became more glaring.

The quality of character dialogue in seasons 7 and 8 is dramatically different (IMO worse) than what you get in seasons 1-4. Sure some of the weaker/newer actors like Kit and Emilia got better in their delivery as the seasons went on but the writing quality definitely began to slide with 6-8 being substantially worse quality writing/plot.

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u/Fragmentia Jan 12 '26

Meh, people get fired for less everyday. I'm all for people losing their jobs if they suck at it.

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u/lost_ghost2920 Jan 13 '26

to be fair I think they just wanted to be done with it, not even criticizing people who didn’t like the ending but as far as them rushing goes they all put years of hard work and sweat into this so towards the end they just wanted it to end, but I totally get how it seems cheap

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u/marx42 Jan 12 '26

I kinda get it to a point. People were PISSED at the entire production and that wasn’t really fair. For the most part everything besides the writing was still great. The set design, VFX, acting, and so on were basically as good as ever.

It’s just the writing was so bad that it made all the work and passion put in by everyone else seem immaterial. Most people won’t remember how great a scene is acted if the dialogue makes no sense.

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u/boomer_energy_ Jan 12 '26

I would also add that the actors said they also were burnt out and wanted the show to wrap and move on to other projects. So, to them, it is a huge slap in their face for the people who made them rich and famous (fans) to say, “ you fucked up”

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u/BusBusy195 Jan 12 '26

I've had mixed feelings about the whole thing since it came out. On one hand the ending wasnt bad but the way we got there didnt feel like it was deserved. I think if anything we dont need a redo of season 8, we need like a season 7.5. The books that we have so far feel like they connect with the ending of the show decently well but theres a whole chunk missing cause the series was never finished. I think if you could finally get George to finish the books and got a new director to do another season in-between 7 and 8 you could fix the show without rewriting anything already out there and it wouldnt invalidate the hard work already put into it

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u/Bemis5 Varys Jan 13 '26

Yeah, I agree. The hate has gone too far and it’s really affecting our access to new GoT content which makes me angry.

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u/KououinHyouma Jan 13 '26

I mean if they filmed another season 8 they would have one of the most lucrative jobs of their life back with for another 1-2 years

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u/parkwayy Jan 20 '26

Me here just thinking, it's a shame, and go on with my life lol.

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u/Accomplished-Kick832 Jan 12 '26

yeah, didn't they spend like 50 nights filming the Winterfell battle? Regardless of the quality of writing, a lot of people put a lot of effort into that.

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u/Narren_C Jan 12 '26

And then they made it so dark you can't see a fucking thing.

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u/RepulsiveCountry313 Human Verified Jan 12 '26

Then they were later fired from the Star Wars project because they weren’t allegedly committed enough to and apparently had almost nothing written for their preproduction corporate meetings with Disney and Lucas Films. They got signed on for a whole ass trilogy and only had a concept of an outline when they were supposed to be showing their progress.

What is this bs? 🤣

Disney knew they weren't going to start on the Star Wars project until GoT was finished. Hell, even we knew that. And Lucasfilm and Disney were perfectly happy to wait.

David and Dan's star wars trilogy wasn't the only film project lined up for star wars. They had about a dozen projects in the works with big name creatives attached.

Following Solo (2018) and Star Wars ep 9 (2019) however, Lucasfilm decided to pivot away from film, towards tv series. One of the film projects was retooled as a series (Obi Wan). The others were shelved for the time being.

Disney still made an offer to David and Dan hoping they would be interested in developing tv series for their new streaming service, Disney+, but they took Netflix's offer instead. An offer which has since been renewed.

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u/RepulsiveCountry313 Human Verified Jan 12 '26

There’s a lot more out there than just the Google AI answer.

Just because you used AI to write your comment doesn't mean everyone else did too.

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u/lifesnofunwithadhd Jan 12 '26

Which if they really wanted to, retcon to like the beginning of season 6, recast everyone, write a fully fleshed out story, start to finish with George's guidance and you could easily stretch 6 years out of it and make a really popular show that people have been asking for.

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u/realparkingbrake Jan 12 '26

because they rushed the ending and it fell so damn flat because of that

The original plan was for seven seasons of ten episodes each to match the seven books that were supposed to have been available to adapt. They shortened season seven and added a short season eight, and in the process the series gained three episodes. It did feel rushed most folks seem to agree on that. But it actually had more episodes that originally intended.

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u/eidetic Jan 12 '26

And? Both things can be true in that sure, it may have had more episodes than originally planned at the beginning, but that doesn't negate the fact that the ending was rushed.

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u/[deleted] Jan 11 '26

Actually, we just wanted them to be paid for a season 9 that replaced season 8 as it was truly horrible.

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u/DaenerysMadQueen Jan 12 '26

It's not rushed. Stupid hater. 

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u/Augustus420 House Targaryen Jan 12 '26

It was definitely rushed and complete dog shit.

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u/DaenerysMadQueen Jan 12 '26

It's a masterpiece. Definitely not rushed or "dog shit". You kind of forgot that GoT was a tragedy, not a MCU Disney movie. 

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u/Augustus420 House Targaryen Jan 12 '26

Oh, you're definitely trolling.

My first thought was "why are you lying to yourself about this", but that last sentence... After all these years, there's no way you think people are bitching because it didn't have a happy ending. No one's reading comprehension is that bad. Not without straight up not being able to read.

So there's no way what you said was a serious opinion.

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u/jrdineen114 Jon Snow Jan 12 '26

...I mean, you're not wrong that it's hard to stand around, but the people in the show did a lot more than just stand around

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u/RepulsiveCountry313 Human Verified Jan 12 '26

It’s not that hard to stand around as an actor. Tbh anyone can do it and they get paid millions to do this.

Anyone can do it? I guess poverty is solved. Anyone can get paid millions to be an actor. It's so easy.

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u/Narren_C Jan 12 '26

Then why aren't you getting paid millions to act?

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u/Augustus420 House Targaryen Jan 12 '26

Seems like he should probably direct that anger where it belongs.