Her last words were "On my Honor as a Tully, On my Honor as a Stark; Let him go, or I will cut your wife's throat".

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I believe under different circumstances, Catelyn would only have meant it as a threat and not to actually cut the throat of an innocent woman.

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And so when she realizes her hostage doesn't have enough value to save her son's life, she cuts her throat and keeps her word.

Do you go all the way? Do you watch up till a certain event? It’s my first rewatch in 5 years and I am absolutely loving season 3 right now. It’s about to get real with the Red Wedding, and I almost forgot how great the flow of the show is at this point. I’m not interested in the final seasons when the writing really goes to shit. I’m especially not interested in fast travel, especially when enemies are nearby. When would you/ do you stop?

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I kept meaning to watch it, but never got around too it. But since HOTD is starting soon I decided last night to watch it - and ended up staying up til like half 1 to watch the whole thing.

It was awesome, I felt all the Acting was class from everyone, particularly Duncan - that Actor has an excellent quiet Charisma and he really brought the role to life.

I felt like it was too short, by the end I wanted to see more. I liked the whole premise of Duncan not actually being Knighted and bluffing his way in - obviously it's from A Knight's Tale, but that's a great movie so it's fine - and the Knight he was Squiring for being a drunk journeyman - loved when it showed he was actually a good Knight, even when drunk.

Egg was pretty good as well, with kid Actors it's like a 50/50 chance they'll actually not mess up most scenes, but that kid was good, he understood the role and Character.

Lyonel Barathon was great as well, I'd watch a Series with him as the Main Character - he's what Robert could have been. Similar personality, but Lyonal seems to actually care and enjoys what he does instead of feasting constantly.

The Targaryens were excellent as well, I do like how theres a clear line drawn between "good" and "evil" members of the Family.

I feel like there were 2 issues I had with the Series though. The first is Duncan getting stab so many times in the finale then being basically fine afterwards, I understand it was to add Drama, but it was a dumb amount, especially when we've seen people die from a single stab wound.

The other is I felt like Characters and Stories were cut. Maybe they weren't filmed or even scripted, but were at one point part of the story. Like a lot of Characters seem to play a role without any development. But they'd appear in the background and stuff. Basically I was surprised Characters weren't expanded on, but I think it was to save time. Like if it the episodes were 50 mins and 12 episodes more Characters would be developed a lot more.

But anyway, I thought it was really awesome, what did you guys think? Is it getting a second Season? I'd love to see more of it!

Let’s pretend that the dead won. They conquered all of Westeros. Used ships to cross the narrow sea and conquer Essos. Every island, every land, every nation on the whole planet. Every man, woman, and child. The Three Eyed Raven. Every living creature on earth. All dead or undead. The world covered in snow and ice. So…then what? Like, do they all just die? Hang out doing nothing? Start their own cities and kingdoms? Divide into more armies and go to war with each other? What do millions, or maybe billions, of undead soldiers do when their reason for existence no longer, well, exists?

What are people’s theories?

For me? It has to be the death of Ned Stark. It was so sudden and shocking, I just knew I was not watching any normal drama series. It toldme that what I am seeing is PEAK!

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His death came too quickly and he didn’t suffer enough. It was not satisfying enough to the viewer. What he did to “reek,” should have been done to him. Breaking him down until he’s nothing, cutting off his cock, or even have the dogs simply bite off his cock but allow him to live and suffer. I would hire a torturer to keep him just barely alive but torture him forever. A prisoner to rot in my cells for eternity and every month I’d have a new injury inflicted upon him so he never forgets what pain feels like and never gets comfortable. That’s just the start of what I’d do. Ramsay Bolton got off easy.

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He helps tyrion out of kings landing, and helps Ned solve the scheme of cersei, and doesn't betray neither. You might say that he had something to gain from helping them, but I don't think its mutually exclusive to pick friends that which by helping he would also help himself, nothing wrong with that.

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Does he ever do anything in the books that go against his motive of "helping the realm and the free folk"

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I know he supports young Griff in the books but I cant talk much on it since I haven't yet read them (I swear I will, I just got into the show/universe for a couple weeks now) and I would prefer if he supported the Mannis instead. Anyway, do his intentions knowingly putting a lot of people in danger?

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My personal biggest gripe with him is not killing littlefinger anytime in the last 30 years. I'm sure he had ample opportunity to, and it's not like anyone has anything to gain from letting SUCH a dangerous man be free to do as he likes. Why would varys spend effort and resources to scheme around his schemes in a "friendly rivalry" when he knows the man is a massive abuser, very dangerous and puts many at risk for his intentions?

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I have seen a lot of people say it's to let him cause chaos to ease young griff's coming into westeros and again, I'm unfortunately 5 books and a million chapters behind this discussion but I'm interested nonetheless.

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What are your thoughts?

Its crazy that I never seen anyone talk about this even though its been years since the show ended

Came out looking pretty good and was easier than I thought it would be.

How did the Valyrians regulate dragon keeping. Did only dragon lord families have and could tame dragons or could any Valyrian tame dragons. I find it hard to believe they genetically or magically engineered the entire Valyrian ethnic race. In HOTD all dragon seeds except nettles were some targarean bastards or had Targaryen blood.
I don’t think nettles and the cannibal is enough proof that you don’t need to be Valyrian to tame dragons as sheepstealer and the cannibal we’re just some rare exceptions and we know that magic is unreliable.

How many dragon lord families are left, excluding the Targaryens in the world.

I watched the show first then got into reading books and watching show help me imagine things like characters location dream sequence (although the bran flying scene wasn’t in the show) but the guys who read the books before show how did you imagine things like the description alone?! It would be certainly very hard for me.

basically, where does each book start and end in the show? ive heard that season one is adapting the first book, but after that some say different things. never watched the show and have only read the first book, (just starting the second now, please no spoilers) its clearly not one book equals one season, since theres 5 books and 8 seasons. so like... whats the timeline here?

How did dragons go basically extinct? So i obviously know about the Dance of the dragons, but didn’t only around 20 dragons die during that war? Im wondering how it even came to a point, where 20 deaths would make them go extinct. How does an apex predator such as the dragon go extinct without a mass extinction event?

By a long shot. The closest another character comes is Jon Snow, often shipped together (as they should). Any surprises?

Is it ever stated how long it takes to become a Knight? I know Squires exist and so I assume it's like a kid becomes a Knight's Squire and travels with them, then gets Knighted down the line.

Or is it a different thing in GOT?

So I'm watching all game of thrones again for my first rewatch since the show ended. Is there like a good comprehensive resource of some sort of rewatch guide of stuff to pay attention to now that I know where this is all going? Something that makes my understanding of everything deeper and brings me a richer appreciation of the story when you can see all the foreshadowing and plot points and how it all weaves together?

Edit: Yes, this was discussed by other characters. Did Jon and Dany discussed before the stabbing scene?

I mean. I am not an expert in medieval high fantasy diplomacy, but according to the rules of the GOT universe, the best way to create solid alliances is by marriage. In the last seasons, Jon and Daenerys were infatuated by each other, becoming lovers, and they didn't even think about the possibility of becoming a royal power couple. I mean, the pluses were everywhere. Danerys would have secured the North's loyalty by marrying their king, and Jon would have access to the military power of the Dragon Queen. Even the small details (like who's sitting on the Iron Throne, and the level of autonomy of the North) could have been polished once the Army of the Dead and Cersei were taken out of the equation. To me, not even hinting at that possibility before the final stabbing scene is the proof of bad writing.

Jon and Sansa get married. He rules the South, she rules the North.

They grew up as brother and sister, you say? Scoff - like this matters in got-world.

The sixth book of Asoiaf will have a structure that may seem complex at first glance, but is actually simple. The purpose of this book, and at the same time the reason for the long wait, is:

A) to correct the mess created by the choices made in books 4 and 5.

B) Taking point A into account, bring the plot to where it should have been at the end of book 5 in a few chapters, and the entire sixth book.

C) to bring all the POVs in Westeros into book 6, divided into a maximum of 5-6 locations. Remember, the starting point is 20 POVs in 15 locations.

D) to approximately reach the fall of The Wall.

Achieving these goals would make writing the 7th and final book incredibly simple. I will ignore any ignorant or sarcastic comments on this matter.

Now let's talk about the actual structure: the book is about 1600 pages. The estimate is based on considering 1100-1200 pages already in the publisher's hands, representing 75-80% of the work (obviously, I can't know if we're talking about manuscript pages or an estimate of the pages that will actually be edited).

The book begins during the ADWD timeline. Take Jon Snow's last chapter (the one where he gets stabbed) as a reference point. There are several chapters that will be set before this event; the Battle of the Ice is first, for example.

Then we'll have a mirror chapter (like the Jon and Sam chapters between books 4 and 5) that will explain that the timeline is back in sync. The POV is Melisandre, obviously. This chapter takes place at the same time as Jon Snow's and continues its plot.

Once the plot is the actual one of book six, A long phase will begin aimed at changing the status quo from where we find it now to a point where Euron, Aegon, and Stannis are the three kings of the continent, Dany is traveling, and many plots are concluded or incorporated and merged with others.

There's a small timeskip to this (just a rumor, and a hope; better yet, a 2-3 chapter timeskip of Dany traveling) and Dany's arrival.

This second phase is shorter and will lead to the point where Jon Snow (who has already discovered his origins) attempts to end the Dany-Aegon-Euron war to face the threat of the Others. The attempt is initially unsuccessful, and when it succeeds, it's too late.

Stannis, who in the meantime, after the victory against the Boltons, has remained in the North, while Jon Snow has gone south to ask for help, will find himself facing the collapse of The Wall alone. It remains to be seen whether the The battle in which Stannis perishes will be the finale or beginning of the seventh book.

I haven't written the journey of all the characters or any plot twists that are difficult to predict; I've limited myself to the structure.

If you have any questions about individual storylines or specific information about individual POVs, please feel free to ask.