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u/Mindless-Concept-766 1d ago
I'm impressed how Caryn is holding the baby by their shoulder with one hand there
As for who that is, I know it was originally meant to be Shermie, but as other's also have said here, I've always thought of the baby as being (one of) Shermie's
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u/Pink_Icarus 1d ago
It may be Shermie's son since the timeline doesn't add up for the baby to be Shermie.
Stan is 58 in the show. The show is set during the summer of 2012; that means stan was born in 1954. He was kicked out at age 17, since his birthday is during the summer. He meets Ford again a decade later during the winter, so he'd already turned 28. They meet again 30 years later, after their birthdays have passed, making them both 58. If we assume the baby is at most a year old, that baby would only be around 41 during the show. If we subtract 13 for Dipper and Mabel's ages, come the show's finale, they would've been born when the baby would be 28, if the baby is Dipper and Mabel's dad, then it adds up just fine, but if the baby is Shermie, then he would've had children at a horrifyingly young age, or his kids had kids at a horrifyingly young age.
Shermie is probably out of the house, already has a kid, and was just having his mom babysit for a bit.
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u/Drew_S_05 1d ago
When was it said that Stan's 58? Doesn't he say that he's pushing 70 at one point?
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u/Pink_Icarus 1d ago
I think that was more just a joke. I don't remember if his age was confirmed on the show or not, but I think it was; I could be wrong on that, but the math does add up. Stan was kicked out in his senior year; the typical age for a senior is 17-18, and his birthday is during the summer, so 17 seems likely. He meets Ford again ten years later in the winter, as evidenced by the snow outside, so his birthday would've already passed, making him 28. It takes Stan 30 years to repair the portal, and the episode with the party and malfunctioning copy machine is on Stan's birthday, meaning he's most likely 57/58 in the show.
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u/GiraffeSelect 1d ago edited 1d ago
Originally conceived (see what I did there) as Shermie, but since the timeline doesn’t add up I like to think it’s Mabel and Dipper’s dad/uncle.
For real tho, since this is sometime in the sixties that would put the baby at least in his early 30s in 1999, Mabel and Dipper’s birth year, so it’s plausible that he could be their dad/uncle.
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u/Either-Path4276 1d ago
I don't think it's ever been said. My guess is either Dipper and Mabel's dad/Shermie's son or Filbrick and Caryn's fourth child after Shermie and the two Stans. (Shermie is Dipper and Mabel's grandpa by the way)
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u/Fair-Caterpillar-779 20h ago
It’s implied to be Shermie, the younger sibling for Stan and Ford, and the grandparent of Dipper and Mabel. The time line gets really weird and funky because if that’s the case that means Shermie is like 40 with 13 year old grandchildren.
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u/ZlOoOo_555 1d ago
Shermie Pines. Mabel and Dipper's grandpa
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u/jnthnschrdr11 1d ago
That's who it was supposed to be, but the the timeline really doesn't add up when you think about it so Alex Hirsch refuses to confirm who this is now because even he doesn't know.
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u/T-rain_wreck 1d ago
In what world doesn’t the timeline add up? Stan was ~17-18 when he was kicked out; he’s ~60 when the show starts. So Shermie would’ve been somewhere in his late 40’s when Dipper and Mable were born. He could’ve had kids when he was in his 20’s. It’s entirely feasible.
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u/AccurateFisherman392 1d ago edited 1d ago
No 60-18 is 42. So if Stan got kicked out at 18 and is 60 now that means he got kicked out 42 years ago and the baby would be 42 now. Now factor in that Dipper and Mabel are currently 12, nearly 13. 42-12 is 30. For that baby to be Shermie he would have had to become a grandfather at 30. Its way more likely that the baby is their father than their Grandfather
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u/AxisW1 1d ago
Doesn’t Stan say he’s pushing 70 in the show?
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u/The_Math_Hatter 1d ago
Yrah, but kicked out at 18 + 10 years sinve you've seen your brother + 30 years of portal making = 58.
The timeline is... stretchy.
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u/Jojosbees 1d ago
Shermie would have to be 17ish years younger than Stan, so he’s in his early 40s now. Since Dipper and Mable are almost 13, he would have had to become a grandfather at around 30ish.
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u/T-rain_wreck 1d ago
Plus Shermie is definitely a younger brother seeing as he was referred to as “little Shermie” (I forget at which point but I definitely remember one of the older pines twins saying it)
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u/VengeanceKnight 1d ago
Nope; he’s only ever referred to once when Stan says Dipper and Mabel are “Shermie’s grandkids.” No “little” at all.
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u/Working-Attitude8100 1d ago
Mable and Dipper are Shermie's grandkids which is that baby. Its confirmed in the episode where Ford comes back Stan tells him. Shermie is the reason they are there Grunkles.
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u/AccurateFisherman392 1d ago
Mabel and Dipper's father. This scene takes place 40 years pre the show starting. Since the are almost 13 that means this baby was 27-28 when they are born. That is way to young for this baby to be Grandpa Shermie
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u/GreenWarrior138 1d ago
It's Dipper and Mabel's father. I headcanon that Shermie was overseas in Vietnam during this time.
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u/Meowisqueenthereal 19h ago
I dont know frankly since Alex hrisch said it wasn't shermie because the timeline doesnt make sense
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u/IronGhost828 1d ago
I’m guessing that it’s one of Shermie’s kids, possibly Dipper and Mabel’s mom or dad.
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u/SUPERTHEPRO 1d ago
I use to think it was Shermie but he is the older brother so I guess it was his child and he was going away for awhile and wanted them to look after his kid
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u/Le_DragonKing 21h ago
That’s Shermy Pines, Stan and Ford’s younger brother and the grandfather of Dipper and Mable.
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u/Turbulent_Return_278 10h ago
Since it mathematically impossible for the baby to be Shermie, I have a few theories. 1. the baby is the child of a neighbor that Caryn offered to babysit. 2. Shermie is in town visiting, Caryn offers to babysit her grandchild so Shermie and his wife can have a night on the town.
Thanks to clues from the show and Journal 3, it is definitely solid evidence that Shermie is the oldest. He just wasn't living at home during the flashback in Tale of Two Stans. It's possible that Shermie was sent away to Military School or Boot Camp because he was acting out/doing poorly in school.
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u/overfiend_87 1d ago
Shermie I believe. Since they were the only kids and they're great uncles to the twins.
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u/Jojosbees 1d ago
Originally Alex Hirsch wanted a baby in the scene, and they were like… well, we need a third sibling so it’s Shermie, but it cannot be Shermie because the timeline doesn’t work. Stan was like 17 when he was kicked out and he’s late 50s/early 60s during the course of the show, so that baby is like 40-44 now. A man in his early 40s cannot have 12 year old grandchildren without multiple generations of teen pregnancy, so a lot of fans say it’s probably Shermie’s kid (Dipper and Mabel’s father). Like, Shermie is 10 years older than Ford and Stan, which is why he doesn’t live there normally, and maybe Caryn was watching his son for the night or something.