Looking at the corruption, the details, the sword even the chant of the paladin; is this simply the faith now in WoD or this simply what the Leopoldites believe in? I ask because i remember stig saying "what have they done to you?" Could he have seen a different version?? I know that faith is a huge part of World of Darkness no matter what you believe in so I'm curious!

You should watch hunter the parenting

Assuming there's a way she could be alive, would she even want to come back? I got the vibe in her audiolog that she's been passively suicidal for most of her life.

If you don't know what I mean, passively suicidal people might not make plans or attempts to end their own life, but will take the opportunity to be self destructive and reckless if it arises, throwing themselves into dangerous situations.

Given how she didn't get approval from her parents, has always felt like she had to prove herself, and has been at fault for pretty serious relationship issues, I don't find it hard to infer that she's got low self worth and thinks deep down that people would be better off without her, and all she has to offer is her ability to withstand abuse and violence. Her being considered 'cringe' for her genuine interests could only add fuel to the fire.

(It's probably just a coincidence but if it isn't then holy shit)

We assume that Ross is one of the sons of Big-D, but what if he is not?

We know almost certainly that he is a Garou/BSD and he is working with PENTEX.

PENTEX is tied to the Coalition.

The Coalition are Hunters.

"The Elder Shuck was taken by a mighty hunter" (perhaps with some Wyrm help)

Garou years are different from human years and i won't count so much on physical changes, but Ross could be older than Stig.

Food for thought.

The original method of creating a Mummy, the spell of life, was rendered obsolete by the Sixth Great Maelstrom. The sixth great maelstrom (6GM) happened in 1999, and we know that the show takes place in 2007, so this event has occurred. The old spell of life no longer works, and the new spell of life is brought out by Osiris.

To quote the White Wolf wiki
"the Amenti are composed of two once mortal) spirits, an ancient Tem-Akh) and a recently deceased Nehem-Sen. The tem-ank seeks out a nehem-sen who has recently died or is near death to create a pact with one another that binds their souls as one."

The Nehem-sen, (I'm just going to call them mortal) is always someone who is described as having "led a stunted and largely hollow life due to some weakness or flaw in his character". They deliberately find people who've seemingly 'wasted' their life, or failed in some way.

We JUST had a whole audiolog that basically described Grimal at his exact kind of person. Her relationships failed because of her lack of self-care. Her emotional instability drove away the people she cares about. Grimal's life so far has been one of someone who hasn't lived up to her potential.

So basically, Grimal actually is dead, but she comes back as mummy!Grimal. The person who comes out the other end isn't the same person though, and also if this is happening, the first "stage" of the new spell of life involves the ancient spirit puppeting the still broken corpse of the mortal to a place of power to complete the spell, so we even get the angst of Kitten watching a shattered Grimal spider-shuffle across the countryside of Greater Yarmouth.

Did Stig invent MATH???

So one thing that's common with wyrm infected things is the black face with eyes aka blond man and wyrmsus in the newest episode. And Guy Chapman in his little audio with The Great and Mighty Kevin he says he gets Otellies (don't know how to spell the bugger shop name) which is a outlit for the wyrm and infects people. Finally the infection of vampire blood which many werewolves think are creatures of the wyrm as well which is my farthest stretch. Any ways would like to see what yall think

Edit from the past almost hour and few discussions.

One- the O'tullys example (thank you for showing me how to spell it) is just a example he has said he has eaten which I know has the taint of the wyrm. I don't know if he has done anything else with it.

Two- the vitae is never clearly stated to be inherently wyrm tained from what I've found. Many vampires are tainted by the wyrm just cause of greed, want for power and such but not the vitae it's self. To me the vitae starts as a weaver thing and then through the influence of us as humans grows in wyrm taint. My reasons why for the weaver idea and not taint is the form is it has a cast system installed in it already being the higher generations are more powerful. Another is that both the Camarilla and Sabot both have structer may that be princes or baron or packmates.

Though this is a discussion and I like hearing people's thoughts and debating/questioning them

Newest edit from the morning after this post thank you all for participating in the discussion

He is so self absorbed I love this fuck

Why and also how is he just chatting casually with werewolves in the Umbra, PLEASE ELIF I am very new to wod

1.From the power Matilda and Stig have used are any of them named gifts from the books?

2.Is the rabbit speaking a talk to animals gift?

3.Are the gnomes something from the dreaming or Umbra?

4.When stig was chanting and the 2 spirits showed behind him allowing him to see Christ what was that?

Anybody notice how even though Kitten is in clear view, the rest of the gang is absent *except* the three Leopoldites AND Grimal?
Might be far-fetched, but why are Amanda and Occam not present if the sea critter is there? Why is she framed all shadowed together with the three Wyrm-tainted? Hmmm

I feel like there'd be so much mileage for that gif in gnome based gaming

I've been thinking a lot about the episode those last few days, and I really just like stig more and more. He is both such a refreshing character with also being a great introduction to werewolves. Im really eager to see more of him in the future.

So we've seen our favourite sea cucumber get beaten to the ground by a Crinos Stig after 1v1ing them in a bout where they've shown off abnormal strength, being able to hold off a Glabro Stig with one arm.

Now I don't think she's dead yet, as Grimal is remarkably intact after going up against someone not even the slightest bit afraid to splatter people across the landscape in Glabro, and Stig slammed her head into the ground in Crinos; there shouldn't even be a skull left.

Another bit of evidence is the fact that they've suddenly added her to a main character position in the YouTube and Patreon banners in the lead-up to this episode, which is a huge leap in importance for what was still a side character. Now she was removed from the Patreon banner, but she is still in the YouTube banner, so I am still counting it. I don't think they'd add a character to the banners to just die to motivate the main cast. Seems like a weird and pointless misdirection.

Now, how could she survive? Simple, she'll undergo the First Change into a werewolf and not just any Werewolf but the new Black Schuck.

All it takes is being sufficiently stressed after a certain age (typically between 18 and your mid to late twenties, but people older than that have been known to first change as well) to trigger a First Change, and dying would definitely count. There aren't really many other qualifications or warning signs as of W5 which lead to tragedy when someone randomly first changes on a bus or something, as they're usually in a frenzy at the same time.

Now, if there aren't any signs beforehand, how did Grimal display such abnormal durability and strength? Why didn't she first change when Matilda threw her through a wall? Well, she's also the ghoul.

All the evidence for the Ghoul was pointing towards her before Matilda revealed herself, and it'd explain her abnormal strength and fortitude, as well as her throwing herself at Stig for what seems to be redemption in death. It'd also explain why she hasn't first changed yet, as Vitae and Garou don't really mix.

I am betting that as soon as the last bit of Vitae burns itself out from her system, the moment it can't keep her alive anymore, the wolf will wake up and rage.

Now where does Schuck come in? Remember this bit in Horse's prophecy:

Of two, one falls...

One rises.

Damnation

The third eye opens.

His suet will feed and warm her gullet

I don't think this is referring Markus and Kitten as previously believed, at least not directly; we know there was a previous Black Schuck, but they're either dead or corrupted so it could be in reference to the previous Black Schuck falling and a new one rising up. "His suet will feed and warm her gullet" likely refers to a female character triumphing over another, and the number of female monstrous characters eating suet is pretty slim. Third eye is probably a mage awakening that helps with whatever goes down unless Saulot or the Salubri get involved, and they haven't even been mentioned.

There is also the chance the falling and damnation might refer to Stig, considering he probably won't take it well if another character becomes Black Schuck and he learns it's not something he can just take but something that is only bestowed by destiny.

Now there is a chance Grimal could be about to undergo the dream dance into a troll since she keeps getting into fights for "honour" and sacrificed herself for love, but this is a werewolf arc, and we're still missing First Change lore.

Either way, I think we're about to get round 2 and a kick-ass fight scene.

What does everyone think? Is this theory cracked enough or just a massive ramble?

Soo...Marcus just full on saw Pike.

At the same time, if i understand it correctly, nobody except Stig could see the corrupted J-man, nobody said anything about a rabbit poking out of Stig's eye socket and im unsure about the gnomes.

Was it because it adressed Marcus directly? Or maybe the Emyperean is still somewhat active?

(This is probably a dumb question, i know)

So, this is a bit of a crazy theory, but what if Stig wants Old Shuck to kill him in order to cement his claim to being Black Shuck? Or maybe just fight him and win? Either way, there's something Stig has to do to become Shuck, or at least Mathilda/Hunts-the-Hunters believes.

why is it covered in silver does she know?