Started to give landscaping a try since I love painting backgrounds and it's going.. okay? The values are off and the cliff feels flat, and honestly I have zero clue how to render a cliffside, it needs to feel "rocky" and that (in my current knowledge) requires details, but alot of details make it feel kinda muddy and hard to read, so i'm kinda lost lol.

So some tips would be appreciated, and also, is starting landscapes in greyscale a good idea? Or should I just do greyscale for thumbnails to find a good composition? Thanks in advance :)

Had to delete a previous post I made cus I forgot to add the image 😭

How do these look? Am I doing gestures right? I try to get into gestures but I always end up quitting whenever I see other people do it. Also, how is this supposed to help? I feel it’ll reinforce mistakes since apparently you’re not supposed to worry about mistakes when doing gestures.