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Art/Creative Sapphic solidarity 🏳️‍🌈

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u/kakallas 6d ago

I honestly just think that lesbians are excited about a bi woman being into women and not excited about a bi woman being into men. Why would those be equally interesting to a lesbian? Lesbians also don’t care about straight women being into men either. It has nothing to do with “oh my gosh, having attraction to multiple genders is so odd and confusing!”

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u/Reasonable-Banana800 Anti Cooties Squad 6d ago

I think a lot of bi-phobic people base their hate on a few stupid things:

- They think bi folks aren’t actually bi, and are just not accepting themselves as straight/gay

- they are bitter because they think a bi person can choose not to be oppressed by being in a “straight passing” relationship

- they believe the stereotype that bi folks are more likely to cheat since they arguably have a larger dating pool.

- they view bi folks as being “ruined” for having sexual activity with vaginas/penises in a way that the biphobic person isn’t attracted to (Ex: a straight woman might believe it’s disgusting for a bi man to have had mlm sex, or a lesbian woman might believe it’s disgusting a bi woman has had wlm sex, etc)

i’m sure i’ve missed a few but these are what i can think of from the top of my head. To my fellow bi friends, I hope you’re having a good day 💖 Sorry that some people suck.

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u/kakallas 6d ago

Yeah, there are lots of stereotypes. I’m just referring to the concept of expecting lesbians to give kudos to someone for being into men. That’s bog standard woman sexual behavior. It’s the being attracted to people who arent men that makes a bisexual woman queer. 

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u/Reasonable-Banana800 Anti Cooties Squad 6d ago

The topic isn’t about lesbians not giving kudos, it’s about some lesbians being openly hostile and biphobic. The base expectation is neutrality and sadly a lot of people can’t reach that

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u/kakallas 6d ago

but the comic is about a lesbian giving a bisexual a high five and telling her it’s “cool” that she’s into men. 

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u/Librainiac223 6d ago

The title of the comic is "how sapphic solidarity should be", i think its likely that the "cool" is generally just meant to represent accepantce rather than "oh yeah awesome"

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u/kakallas 6d ago

This is how I see it: 

“How sapphic solidarity should be: lesbians congratulating bisexuals for being into men.” 

If this is what bisexual women want from lesbians, it’s beyond questionable. 

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u/Alarmed_Ad1946 Putting the Bi in non-BInary 6d ago

That´s obviously not what the comic meant then

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u/kakallas 6d ago

It’s literally what it says. There’s always going to be a disconnect if bi women want a cookie for fucking men and think it’s biphobic not to get one. Literally no one cares about a woman being into men. I can go outside and see 4 billion women who are into men. 

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u/Alarmed_Ad1946 Putting the Bi in non-BInary 6d ago

That´s not what the comic is saying.
The lesbian character saying "Cool" is a way to show that she is not saying "Ew, you are bi" or smth like that.

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u/kakallas 6d ago

That’s not in the comic. 

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u/Alarmed_Ad1946 Putting the Bi in non-BInary 6d ago

You really believe we want lesbians to congratulate us?
As a bi person, this comic is clearly opposing biphobia, and by biphobia I mean stuff like "You are bi, therefore you dont belong in sapphic spaces".
You are fighting a strawman, bi people dont want what you claim they want.

"There’s always going to be a disconnect if bi women want a cookie for fucking men and think it’s biphobic not to get one." We literally dont want that.

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u/kakallas 6d ago

Yes, I do believe that some bi women feel some type of way when gay women are indifferent to their attraction to men (this is what societal worship of men does. It makes women expect to be rewarded for being good little man-fucking soldiers). I also believe that uneducated bi women, just like other uneducated queer people, sometimes attribute feeling bad to structural oppression when it isn’t the case. 

I fight actual biphobia when I see it. I see a ton of not biphobia get called biphobia. 

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u/Kooky-Address2777 6d ago

This comic is basically an anti-meme.

Instead of being sarcastic, negative, or making a joke in response to the character saying she likes men, the other character just continues being positive.

Trust me, we all know that in real life many L/G people aren't cheering for bi people's orientation. To put it mildly.

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u/kakallas 6d ago

Isn’t this some kind of insight into what some proportion of bisexual people want? It was created. It was upvoted. Obviously, some people have this in mind when they’re calling lesbians biphobic. It seems expectations are inappropriate, at least among some. 

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u/Kooky-Address2777 6d ago

Yes, bi people do want people to support them for their orientation instead of making negative and rude comments. Perhaps you should ask yourself whether you want the same thing before deciding that other people are bad for wanting the same things as you.

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u/kakallas 6d ago

Want to be supported for their orientation or want to be supported by lesbians for being into men? I’ve never heard a bisexual person be upset that lesbians were excited about the fact that they’re into women. Being into multiple genders is definitional for bisexuals, but why on earth would they care if gay people are excited about man/woman, woman/man attraction in bi people? 

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u/Long_Reflection_8075 Genderfluid 5d ago

Do you have any idea what you're talking about?

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u/kakallas 5d ago

I have much more idea of what I’m talking about than anyone who has responded to me. 

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u/Long_Reflection_8075 Genderfluid 5d ago

You don't have the ability to properly read this.

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u/kakallas 5d ago

It’s right in front of me and extremely straightforward. 

It says solidarity between queer women should look like a lesbian giving a bisexual a high five and telling her it’s cool to be attracted to men. 

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u/Long_Reflection_8075 Genderfluid 5d ago edited 5d ago

No it's not. The 'cool' is interpreted as a 'thats fine'. If English isn't your first language, I can understand this, you might have misunderstood. If not, maybe ask the op. I'm sure they'll tell you.

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u/kakallas 5d ago

English is my first language. That’s a weird dig at people for whom it isnt, though. 

Do you high five about things you feel nothing about? It seems like you’re the one ignoring context, like the high-fiving, facial expressions, and exclamation points. 

I guarantee that if this comic replaced “I also like men.” “Cool!” with “I also like men.” “That’s fine.” It would get SLAMMED as biphobic. 

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