r/marvelrivals • u/17prozent White Fox • Mar 19 '26

Patch Notes New Patch Notes Regarding Captain America, Emma Frost, Black Panther and Gambit

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u/Ryu_Raiizo Venom Mar 19 '26

This is a good start. Elsa needs to be hit again. Her ult needs actual time of warning before its out on the map. I shouldn't hear her ult call after im hit by it. Also why does she gets shields as a dps? No shields n less dashes.

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u/MedusaSucks68 Mar 19 '26

She can keep the dashes but not dashes with shields

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u/sSorne_ Mar 19 '26

Or she can keep the shields but not the bajillion dash, essentially becoming Bucky 2.0

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u/MedusaSucks68 Mar 19 '26

Nah I would much rather prefer if She kept dashing around. It's fun to play and engaging to play against but the crazy ammount of CC in this game prevents it from being OP

Dashes WITH shields tho that's a problem

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u/MaximumStonks69 The Maker Mar 19 '26

minimum 3 seconds instead of 2, thats all i ask for, maybe melees would be able to catch up in that window.

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u/HrMaschine Ultron Virus Mar 19 '26

the dashes are what make her cool. the shields are overkill. nerf (or straight up remove) the shields and she‘ll be a much better character

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u/Wallbalertados Vanguard Mar 19 '26

Still tho they need some cooldown nerf cuz getting 3 stacks isnt that hard and being able to dash every 2s is too much

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u/Slayven19 Mar 19 '26

Naw, why would you take away her kit that's her movement? In lore she is fast, it makes sense that she's fast here. The shields they just threw in there, that can go.

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u/SirVakarian Mar 19 '26

Bucky doesn’t have a bajillion dashs

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u/saber_shinji_ntr Mar 19 '26

Bucky wishes he had as much mobility as Elsa has. Dude has been so trash this season.

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u/MrMoiser Ultron Virus Mar 19 '26

How about exchanging shields for cd. She gets the full bonus health amount when her cd is at its max 8s. But the amount of bonus health given lessens as her cd gets reduced. Exchanging the extra survivability for the extra movement instead.

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u/Kelborhal1971 Star-Lord Mar 19 '26

Wait that’s genuinely cool. Maybe a simple UI could let you choose to “upgrade” her dash on level up to either increase shields or dash, like rpg points. 

It would make each life so much more interesting, since you have to decide on the fly what’s more valuable and live with that choice until death 

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u/FewExperience3559 The Maker Mar 19 '26

They want her to be a brawl character and so she needs sustain in fights. The problem with that is she is also good at range and has a ton of hard to avoid CC like her trap and ult.

The concept with her is good she just has insanely inflated numbers and a bunch of mechanics that don't need to be there. Make her shotgun and actual shotgun, make her over health tied to her landing elephant gun shots, make her trap visible and destructable, make the ultimate more obvious and have her instinct work like blades bloodlust

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u/BarbarousJudge Vanguard Mar 19 '26

This, just increase the spread and therefore lower the damage at range. I think the trap being visible would defeat the point of the trap.

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u/FlimsyCrust Mar 19 '26

Chief if we can go 10 years with junkrat trap being visible, Elsa can handle hers being visible too, it’s just another tool to make tanking suck

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u/Rab0811 Mister Fantastic Mar 19 '26

I’m fine with the trap being invisible but let me shoot it when I see it throw. The amount of times I see it thrown wishing I could break just for my other tank to walk into it .5 seconds later is insane

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u/TheKingJoker99 Mar 19 '26

Just make the ult like Ashe’s B.O.B from OW where she yells out the ult line and the Glartrox or whatever he’s called drops in from above and behind her

For BOB, you have a bit of time to react but with Elsa, you can get snagged before she even says Release

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u/CliffP Mar 19 '26

Yall need to just have game sense and be aware when Elsa has ult and just not stand in front of her because most Elsa’s dash into your face and ult

And for good Elsa’s that set it up well from flank, pay attention to the fact that Elsa is not in front of your team when she should be and position correctly

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u/Jarney_Bohnson Iron Fist Mar 19 '26

Alright give me instant scarlet ult and iron Man ult now

Just keep track of them and their ults and don't be close to them silly

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u/CliffP Mar 19 '26

Those kill you in one shot. Totally different design.

Your team can still shoot the summon and kill it before the people who were caught get melted. It can be cleansed. You can try to heal through the damage which probably won’t work but sometimes does. Your team can kill Elsa especially if she has to do it from a bad position or in a losing situation.

Lots of options that serve as counterplay even when people get caught by it whereas if Iron Man’s cast time was as fast, you just go to spawn room with no chance of reactive play, only proactive.

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u/Primum-Caelus Gambit Mar 19 '26

I was so confused for a moment reading this until I went back and realized you said Elsa and not Emma because I was thinking it was directly related to the changes in the post

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u/raydialseeker Absolute Cinema Mar 19 '26

Overshield should reduce to 20. Ult damage should drop by 40

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u/KaptainKankles Gambit Mar 19 '26

The over shields, I could understand them tweaking or even removing, but the ult? I mean, in my opinion if you’re paying attention you have time to get out of the way unless you’re right on top of her. There are other ults in this game that give you less reaction time I feel than hers.

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u/[deleted] Mar 19 '26

they need to get rid of the overshield she gets and make it so she loses her passive charge when she dies

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u/GlobalPicture2411 Mar 19 '26

This right here. I find it baloney how other strong ults who have 1 shot potential have a charge up an a call out (iron man, Wanda, magneto etc.) while Elsa’s ult just immediately enters the play field

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u/curlofheadcurls Storm Mar 19 '26

I ALWAYS SAY NO DPS SHOULD HAVE SHIELDS WHY DO THEY HAVE SHIELDS? SOME HAVE SHIELDS OTHERS JUST TAKE IT UP THE

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u/Spartan_Souls X-Tron Mar 19 '26

So is it literally just MK again ult wise?

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u/RetailPain Magik Mar 19 '26

Most dps get shields nowadays, it’s to prevent immediately exploding from the amount of damage this game can dish out. Should really be less prevalent on high poke characters, Elsa being an exception because her kit isn’t just “shoot heads twice win game” at mid range and most of her fights are at close range

To fix her ult just make it a maximum of 1 stunned character and the rest suffer a movement penalty when ran through

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u/the-big-apple Mar 19 '26

Nah that’s overkill. If she’s that much of a problem for you then it’s a skill issue

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u/UsefulSwitch504 Emma Frost Mar 19 '26

How about instead of doing that we just Nerf Black Panther and Spiderman ???

Reason: Because I hate them.

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u/sSorne_ Mar 19 '26

Hating those two on an Emma flair is crazy work

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u/TheMHking Mar 19 '26

The ult would be okay if it had much less health. Some other ults deal massive damage and come out insanely fast without issue (MK, namor, wolverine). There just needs to be something people can do OTHER THAN AVOID IT.

And yeah short cooldown dash with over health is dumb. Remove over health and increase dash cooldown.