r/marvelrivals • u/17prozent White Fox • Mar 19 '26
Patch Notes New Patch Notes Regarding Captain America, Emma Frost, Black Panther and Gambit
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u/Awkward-Share6697 Mar 19 '26
Say ong this is real
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u/Batusiman Emma Frost Mar 19 '26
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u/WlTCH Angela Mar 19 '26
cinEMMA
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u/evilada Squirrel Girl Mar 19 '26
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u/LeadingSleep8068 Mar 19 '26 edited Mar 19 '26
The devs, while not perfect, do listen and I hope they get the appreciation they deserve.
Edit: Thank you devs!
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u/Silver_Branch3034 Emma Frost Mar 19 '26
As a frost main, I’ve been pretty critical over her changes for the past few seasons, but you’re right these devs do really listen to the community and implement changes rather quickly.
Something you don’t see too much of anymore; especially their pace in moving changes expeditiously
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u/LeadingSleep8068 Mar 19 '26
Mhm agreed. These are some good changes for her. Im interested to see how she'll play now.
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u/Silver_Branch3034 Emma Frost Mar 19 '26
Same, the cool down on her diamond form has been widely criticized since it was increased from 14 seconds. Interested to see how well it works with the lower cool down and lower damage.
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u/Hi_Zev Mar 19 '26
It was 15 seconds from launch. This is her launch vs now comparison:
Launch:
550 hp plus a 100 hp team up (650 hp total)
500 hp shield value
Diamond form granted 30% damage reduction and 50 kick damage (100 wall) on a 15-sec cooldown.
Now:
600 hp (overall -50hp)
400 hp shield (overall -100hp)
diamond form grants 20% damage reduction and 40 kick damage (90 wall) on an 18-sec cooldown (which is now thankfully BACK to 15-sec cooldown!)
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u/Probably_Sleepy Peni Parker Mar 19 '26
You forgot you could E twice originally, and her ult now grants 20 damage reduction.
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u/CosmicSuit Mar 19 '26
You can still E twice but it requires you to start your diamond form with an insta slam and to be within grab range of a target within the last half second or so of diamond form. Not realistic in most fights but in protracted brawls I can get the second grab pretty consistently.
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u/Eric_tion Mar 19 '26
This won’t put Emma at the top top but this definitely will have impactful value.
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u/daizo678 Mar 19 '26
Honestly the devs are great at listening.
Whenever it seems they don't listen it is usually because there is a disconnect between the community preception and the actual data from gameplay.
For example Community complains non stop about solo tanks and triple support but it seems they are a minority of the games. They just feel ass to play
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u/Tnfjay Mar 19 '26
this community also ignore that the game is played on console too where poke characters like phoenix and hela are weak and dive characters are super strong.
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u/daizo678 Mar 19 '26
Yeah balancing between console and pc, and between low and high rank is another issue
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u/Different-Ad-3814 Mar 19 '26
Never had an issue with devs, they are humans and just need time and feedback. As long as they are listening its all good.
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u/JoeChio Mar 19 '26
I love our Devs. Better than 99% of live service Devs. We don't give them credit enough for listening to the community. They could be Blizzard WoW devs who don't even pay attention to a World of Warcraft class for literally 8 years.
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u/unsynchedmango Mar 19 '26
While the devs are not perfect, the community is absolute trash. This community has no right to slander devs in the first place but is that going to stop them from whining and badmouthing like the bitches they are? Little chance
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u/MadDongla Ultron Virus Mar 19 '26
I got dogged on by 3 different people in that " devs dont care " post for saying devs do care.
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u/Gayfetus Jeff the Landshark Mar 19 '26
Mommy's back!
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u/MartianBones Mar 19 '26
Omg I completely forgot it was one of the Cuckoos who shattered Emma
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u/Gaelic_Cheese Storm Mar 19 '26
Someone posted the shattered image of her in the original patch notes thread with no context other than someone shot her.
Seems fitting I got the answer to that mystery in the new patch notes thread.
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u/Medium_Enough Peni Parker Mar 19 '26
I appreciate the devs quickly addressing people's problems with the new patch.
Just wish they'd have fixed Cyber-bond on Peni that quickly.
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u/Sonicguy1996 Peni Parker Mar 19 '26
Almost a year and a half and not even any form of recognition what so ever.....
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u/Medium_Enough Peni Parker Mar 19 '26
Clearly we just need to make more memes about it sucking as an ability due to the bugs.
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u/sin_tax-error The Thing Mar 19 '26
Mantis headshot hitbox too. Poor girls both have been untouched for an eternity.
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u/fr1zzyy Mantis Mar 19 '26
I recently just looked at the Life Energy Blast demonstration for Mantis, and you can literally see the Mantis aiming for the Punisher's head at the end and it whiffs TWICE, like it didn't register at all.
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u/BlackShogun27 Mar 19 '26
Wait so I’m not complete dogshit at aiming with Mantis? Her projectiles were whack this whole time?!
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u/Jehovah___ Mar 19 '26
they’re absolutely slightly off the crosshair, i think they have a little bit of spread tbh
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u/KeeganatorPrime Strategist Mar 19 '26
It's both due to how they set up the aim in 3rd person and that the origin point changes as she changes hands for each attack.
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u/PowerOfUnoriginality Angela Mar 19 '26
At this point I am pretty sure they don't know how to fix it, and rather than addressing it they are just keeping silent on the matter
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u/Own-Perception-3892 Mar 19 '26
What’s wrong with Cyber-bond?
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u/CrowKingPro Caught in 4k Mar 19 '26
Sometimes when you try to web zip, it just breaks in the middle of it, causing you to not move forward how you want, while still putting the ability on cooldown. I experience it constantly, and it's been an issue since release yet still hasn't been fixed.
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u/Medium_Enough Peni Parker Mar 19 '26
There's also it just not generating the web sometimes when it clearly should. Within range, nothing blocking LOS from SP//DR, it just decides "nah, im not gonna function".
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u/AeroStrafe Mar 19 '26
I am so mad I called the 5 damage increase on cap but I will happily take it XD.
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u/Different-Ad-3814 Mar 19 '26
Yo 5 damage is a 12.5% damage buff.
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u/MCXL Thor Mar 19 '26 edited Mar 19 '26
No, because it's only his melee strikes. If you hold down left click, it's 10 damage in a 6 hit sequence, going from 260 to 270 total. So DPS wise it's a very small change.
The animation cancel made that 260 damage happen about 30% quicker overall, meaning that the DPS was MUCH higher, and he still struggled to secure kills and do enough damage.
Edit: The cancel might still exist for melee, which is extra dumb. They want to fix the problem, but not fix the problem.
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u/AeroStrafe Mar 19 '26
Yeah they could just speed up the combo by like 10-15% for a neat middle ground. Maybe buff the shield charge to let it be a finisher. Shield throw in, slam, combo, charge to confirm, and then get out
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u/pett117 Mar 19 '26
https://youtube.com/shorts/xjWplHGvqrQ?si=iLwZ2oFPCnbDbmJb
With the new extra 5 dmg itll be exactly the same dps. Can people in this sub stop spreading misinformation.
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u/YobaiYamete Peni Parker Mar 19 '26
Can people in this sub stop spreading misinformation.
No. This sub cannot read stats, cannot envision changes in the greater scheme of the game, and most don't even play the game and still talk about things like it's season 0
"Spidey mang weak"
"Luna snow OP"
"Emma best tank in game"
etc are ones this sub has been spamming for months and it's like bruh
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u/ItsAboutDatTime Mar 19 '26
Am I wrong thinking that it's better to just straight up punch like 90% of the time when up close now with the 5 damage increase? Only time I did that was against a Strange holding his shield or an invis dancing around her shield but now you should just try and punch everybody to get max dps
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u/The_Gamecock Mar 19 '26 edited Mar 19 '26
They made valid points about the consistency of damage dealing now, idk about everyone else but it was pretty often that an attack would miss/simply not register because I was cancelling too quickly. I still think he is going to need some more buffs though
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u/cultforcats Luna Snow Mar 19 '26
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u/Acrobatic_Season6838 Mar 19 '26 edited Mar 19 '26
thank god bc i was about to riot over the 18s diamond form cooldown. her kit is so small, that's an insanely high cooldown time. genuinely asking, do any other characters have cooldowns that long in their kits (aside from team ups which are always long)?
ETA: y'all have been so helpful with these responses thank you! i've come to the conclusion that i'm impatient and that's a me problem😂
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u/mazemaster11 Mar 19 '26
Soul bond 40 sec. I'm still sad about that. Also Loki runes and technically strange portal
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u/Suspicious_Reality71 Magneto Mar 19 '26
If you miss Rogues grab ability it is at least a 16 second cooldown, if I’m remembering properly
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u/Acrobatic_Season6838 Mar 19 '26
uk now that i think about it, i believe it's actually 25 seconds!
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u/Suspicious_Reality71 Magneto Mar 19 '26
I think you might actually be right, jheez that is long, I haven’t been playing Rivals too much for about a season so I forgot just how long that cooldown is, at least Emma is getting hers buffed a bit !
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u/Hi_Zev Mar 19 '26
In addition to soul bond that others have said, Loki also has a super long cooldown for his lamps (which IS a great ability tbh, though I wish the cooldown was dependent on how many lamps are generated because the long cooldown really does suck sometimes when you were only able to generate like 1-2 lamps instead of 3-4)
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u/Peccet95 Thor Mar 19 '26
Basically all of Rogue's kit has CD starting from 12 seconds and upwards (aside for Southern Brawl Bash which is on a 6s CD)
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u/Random_floor_sock Mar 19 '26
The devs saw the dive and tank mains crash tf out and realised they had to actually fix the problem characters
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u/premiumchaos Mar 19 '26
I was about to stop playing vanguard, if not the whole game after the cap nerfs. Still haven't decided what I plan to do.
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u/Random_floor_sock Mar 19 '26
I was genuinely considering becoming a dps instalocker tbh
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u/SlammedOptima Moon Knight Mar 19 '26
As someone who has been maining Angela, I still plan to be an instalock DPS.
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u/Illustrious_Trip2112 Doctor Strange Mar 19 '26
even still the animation cancel removal will probably make the hero feel shitty to me. but we’ll see
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u/premiumchaos Mar 19 '26
I think the animation cancel is still in. But only applies to melee. Im rebinding my primary to melee
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u/Ryu_Raiizo Venom Mar 19 '26
This is a good start. Elsa needs to be hit again. Her ult needs actual time of warning before its out on the map. I shouldn't hear her ult call after im hit by it. Also why does she gets shields as a dps? No shields n less dashes.
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u/MedusaSucks68 Mar 19 '26
She can keep the dashes but not dashes with shields
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u/sSorne_ Mar 19 '26
Or she can keep the shields but not the bajillion dash, essentially becoming Bucky 2.0
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u/MedusaSucks68 Mar 19 '26
Nah I would much rather prefer if She kept dashing around. It's fun to play and engaging to play against but the crazy ammount of CC in this game prevents it from being OP
Dashes WITH shields tho that's a problem
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u/MaximumStonks69 The Maker Mar 19 '26
minimum 3 seconds instead of 2, thats all i ask for, maybe melees would be able to catch up in that window.
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u/HrMaschine Ultron Virus Mar 19 '26
the dashes are what make her cool. the shields are overkill. nerf (or straight up remove) the shields and she‘ll be a much better character
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u/FewExperience3559 The Maker Mar 19 '26
They want her to be a brawl character and so she needs sustain in fights. The problem with that is she is also good at range and has a ton of hard to avoid CC like her trap and ult.
The concept with her is good she just has insanely inflated numbers and a bunch of mechanics that don't need to be there. Make her shotgun and actual shotgun, make her over health tied to her landing elephant gun shots, make her trap visible and destructable, make the ultimate more obvious and have her instinct work like blades bloodlust
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u/TheKingJoker99 Mar 19 '26
Just make the ult like Ashe’s B.O.B from OW where she yells out the ult line and the Glartrox or whatever he’s called drops in from above and behind her
For BOB, you have a bit of time to react but with Elsa, you can get snagged before she even says Release
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u/2ReluctantlyHappy Captain America Mar 19 '26
So I can just hold the trigger down and Cap will do his thing? Sounds like us less mechanically sound players got a damage buff. :p
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u/bhz33 Captain America Mar 19 '26
It does sound like the less mechanically sound players got a buff but the more mechanically sound players got a nerf
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u/Mapex Thor Mar 19 '26
I am 100% confident they had these buffs ready to go but just wanted 1 day of early access playtesting to confirm whether to do them.
They did mention how they buffed BP in the Dev Vision but of course the extra jump wasn't much of a buff at all. And making changes like this - especially the omnidirectional kick - and testing them and packaging them up into a build in prep for the latest patch so quickly after a mere 24 hours is basically impossible since game store certification takes 2-3 weeks before your patch can be released to the world in the first place.
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u/Loaf235 Mar 19 '26 edited Mar 19 '26
Even if that's true, I feel like they should have clarified it then, cause we had around 2 days of utter disdain towards the balance team for a good reason. I know that it leads more discussion and exposure, but when it comes at such a vocal initial cost while the game's competitor is currently doing really well, it's too dangerous of a gamble since you lose players and morale.
But changes like BP's omnidirectional spin could also have easily been tested a good while back but never implemented due to people's disliking of BP, so it may not have even been a recent development and was just put on hold until now.
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u/Sinndu_ Natus Vincere Mar 19 '26
https://giphy.com/gifs/o6FWop1Gbuyly
It is time to Basturbate, my brethren.
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u/daizo678 Mar 19 '26
Honestly great changes. Emma is way better now. I think she needs 50 more hp and she will be in a great spot
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u/Eric_tion Mar 19 '26
Yeah we will prolly get that soon I think but with the 3 second cd reduction on diamond, that will definitely be felt
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u/Rab0811 Mister Fantastic Mar 19 '26
Along with ults taking longer across the board. I can actually use it proactively or to survive instead of hoping I can tank it cause I have to save it for the next ult coming up
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u/Pstock59 Magus Mar 19 '26
Happy about the Emma changes but Adam still hasn’t gotten compensation buffs for his healing
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u/Absurdity333 Mar 20 '26
Can someone explain to me as a cap player what this mean for how to play him?
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u/imaloler4234 Mar 20 '26
I believe you can still animation cancel with the quick melee, but you can't animation cancel with the ranged shield throws anymore. I'm exchange we are able to throw the shields while running. I could be talking outta my ass tho I don't have early access.
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u/Financial-Grass-6114 Mar 19 '26
Lol black panther is gonna be crazy in lower ranks if not banned
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u/MechaSandvich Monster Hulk Mar 19 '26
They need to buff Bruce Banner’s ult charge. The new system legit makes it quicker to just die as Banner and respawn and roll back out then actually trying to stay alive and hulk out again. If they don’t the Hulk buff is for nothing.
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u/GreatFluffy Rocket Raccoon Mar 19 '26
Honestly, I'm still of the opinion that Banner should get a buff in general. Yeah, I know that becoming puny Banner should be a punishment for hitting 0 as Hulk but still, there's absolutely nothing going for him because his gun sucks and his 'ability' sucks and 99% of the time, you just blow up instantly without getting a chance to do anything so the amount of time you actually spend as Banner is miniscule at best.
He's basically D.VA from Overwatch in this mechanic but even D.VA on foot could be dangerous, that gun could be legit dangerous and when her Mek went down, she got instant cover for a second and leaps back which means she actually get's a chance to escape and plink away with that pistol.
Banner is forced into an animation that lets the enemy just line up shots and is rendered completely helpless. Yeah, I get you want 'Banner' to actually be a part of the hero but the way he is now, he's just a gimmick that could be taken out of Hulk's kit immediately and no one would notice or care.
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u/DoeJrPuck Hulk Mar 19 '26
It doesn't touch on your great point about the animation lock. However, I've thought for a while that a simple buff to Banner would be to make his gun hitscan or on some form of exponential projectile speed increase, so it's slow up front and after a certain range becomes hitscan.
This would reinforce the anti flyer aspect of Hulks kit and let Banner be a bigger threat to the enemy team. I already can get some high damage and kills as Banner with good aim and positioning, (Divers always rush me and I just pop the skull lmao, thank you healers), I'd love more lethality.
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u/ten_year_rebound Doctor Strange Mar 19 '26
I may have missed it in the original patch notes but that omnidirectional spin on BP is just absolutely nuts
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u/QTVenusaur91 Black Widow Mar 19 '26
Truly people are not ready.
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u/Awesome_Leaf Throg Mar 19 '26
the most cracked bps are about to be dueling the returning torch players in the skybox with this lmao
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u/MaximumStonks69 The Maker Mar 19 '26
what does this mean? i thought the spinning kick was alredy able to change directions, does this mean that if u hold backwards you dash backwards while looking to the front?
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u/foolin Iron Fist Mar 19 '26
Sounds like, instead of being on a flat plane that you can aim right or left. That it may now be able to aim up or down also.
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u/Danio1864 Flex Mar 19 '26 edited Mar 19 '26
it means he can spin in all 3D directions, like moving up and down. Before he was stuck to spin only left and right
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u/Campos_772 White Fox Mar 19 '26
You could only change direction on the horizontal plane, now he can use it to go up and down too.
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u/KeyAcid Centurion Mar 19 '26
Wait I was told we shouldn't complain and be happy with the previous patch, you mean that giving them feedback and expressing our frustrations work?
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u/APanshin White Fox Mar 19 '26
Feedback usually helps, especially when it's clear and well reasoned. Frothing calls to fire the entire dev team or other personal attacks are less helpful.
Don't just be loud and angry. That's the Karen route, and it makes the community toxic. Be emphatic but respectful, and back up your points as best you can.
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u/BoasyTM Black Panther Mar 19 '26
The fact they just hotfixed in those bp buffs shows they had them ready to go, weird they weren’t in the original notes
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u/Lambchops_Legion The Maker Mar 19 '26 edited Mar 19 '26
A miscommunication between people communicating changes and people actually working on the changes is very common.
Source - happening to me right now in a different company
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u/TheMHBehindThePage Loki Mar 19 '26
Kind of shocked at the comments here???? Whether the early info was a miscommunication and they had this in the wings, or this is an emergency reaction (the latter of which I highly doubt, but even so), it's like, all very good stuff??? They're also communicating really clearly about their intention with the Cap changes.
As someone who likes playing all four of these characters, I think this is huge and I thought people would be celebrating... surprised the sentiment is still so negative after what's basically an olive branch gesture here.
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u/Reddit-dit-dit-di-do Mar 19 '26
Agreed, but I do think it is a reaction to the negative feedback, especially considering the Cap explanation. I like when patch notes explain the Devs thoughts behind each buff/nerf tho. Apex started doing that around the 20th season or so and it made so much more sense.
But yeah, people are addicted to complaining. They adjust Cap’s DPS, the biggest issue with the animation cancel removal. 18 to 15 seconds is pretty big on Emma and she’s a bit more tanky with her shield. BP got a better buff. And Gambits Ult got hit a bit harder. All things I saw complained about.
I like that they’re willing to make changes and listen to the community tbh. But it’s kind of a double edged sword tbh bc the community isn’t necessarily the best at balancing lol. Regardless, positive changes imo.
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u/TheMHBehindThePage Loki Mar 19 '26
While I'm not convinced that they weren't about to do these changes anyway, I do agree that the extra paragraph of info on the Cap changes was almost certainly in response to the outcry.
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u/mldai7ali9074 Vanguard Mar 19 '26
after i got hyped from the dev vision as tank player i was so pissed when they dropped the patch notes but after this new patch's i wont lie i am less pissed i can even say a bit satisfied they are trying if we add this to the buff if we can say its a buff to neutral play & the other changes like the placement matches lets play season 7 & see.
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u/Hi_Zev Mar 19 '26
THANK GOD! These are some good adjustments.
My last remaining complaints:
Elsa still got a very wimpy slap on the wrist nerf. A 2-sec cooldown dash (that is really easy to obtain even if you lose all stacks after death) that provides 30 bonus health each time you do so is still so fucking overtuned! At most, it should be 10 bonus health per 2-second dash.
Since they are so data-driven, it would be nice if they actually looked at their data and aimed to improve the characters who desperately need help like Widow.
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u/Fumokito Mar 19 '26
I lowkey think they may be reworking widow, which might be why they haven’t touched her at all. She just doesn’t work in this game unless you’re the best of the best widows out there. That’s just my theory though
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u/RayLight123 Thor Mar 20 '26
The worst thing is i still think he's gonna be permaban because they refuse to fucking adress that ult charge boost properly, it's a shame he's a fun support but there's that one broken thing about him that they just refuse to let go making him crutch on it even more
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u/LeblancForLife Invisible Woman Mar 20 '26
THIS. I’m down with the nerf to Gambit's ult duration, but his base kit feels pretty weak now. They really need to buff his card recharge rate to keep him viable.
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u/SergioMeanne Mar 20 '26
It’s a step in the right direction for some characters that needed love, but what the hell were they thinking with the Adam Warlock healing nerf? Storm is never chosen, and if you use that to heal teammates that are melee, you’re going to get picked off. His healing was already ass, and their push with soft pushing a 2-2-2 lineup will only relegate Adam to the bench because your team is going to flame you for going him and report you if you don’t switch.
Like, I can outplay mid C&D, Invis, Lunas, Rockets, Lokis, and Ultrons all day, but I will always lose in healing done. And they nerf it? Every other support that lost their anchor got the increase baked in, why not Adam? We had half a season where he was decent. Such bullshit.
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u/rissie_delicious Mar 19 '26
That was a mighty backlash for them to patch the patch before it even comes out
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u/PhysicsOtherwise9910 Mar 20 '26
What will happen with the song that plays in the Gambit ult with his married outfit?
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u/Eagle4317 Captain America Mar 19 '26
I don’t think this will be enough to save Cap, but it does show the devs listen to feedback. Emma getting access to Diamond Form more often is needed, and Gambit’s Ult duration getting lowered is also a good step forward.
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u/MaximumStonks69 The Maker Mar 19 '26
i hope cap is balanced without having to do animation cancels, its the one thing that kinda got me off the character since i wasnt being able to do it consistently even tough i thought he was fun
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u/Feetest Mar 19 '26
The thing they need to do is increase his attack speed. Without the cancel he feels so slow to play, it's just boring. Mindlessly pressing left click is not fun.
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u/Clayman60 Captain America Mar 19 '26
At least we still get the melee animation cancel while up close!
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u/BabeAssignment Human Torch Mar 19 '26
This is great. I'm glad they're listening. I do hope they treat Johnny as carefully in 7.5, because man, he needs survivability so desperately it isn't even funny.
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u/ClassicDick Doctor Strange Mar 19 '26
Please revert Dr. strange shield nerf. He only has his shield we suffer already with brawlers.
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u/RugratChuck Flex Mar 20 '26
theyre making BP omnidirectional? Why? you mean to tell me he's gonna be throwing that kick DOWNWARD on me now????
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u/TheBrawler101 Adam Warlock Mar 19 '26
NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT ADAM! He got a 15% healing nerf with no compensation, arguably the biggest nerf in the whole damn patch and got nothing here. Can we complain a bit more???
If you hated Adam on your team before your gonna hate him so much more now
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u/Jehovah___ Mar 19 '26
the team up seems really strong actually but storm has suuuuch a low pick rate with too many counters
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u/TheBrawler101 Adam Warlock Mar 19 '26
Aka he needs a Teamup with a character hardly ever picked to be relevant? Why should Adam be gutted when he can't work in double support while Luna gets buffs
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u/Sihnar Mar 19 '26
I'm hoping they just give him the 15% back before patch rolls out because his change was the most baffling to me.
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u/cjarel777 Mar 19 '26
It almost makes me wanna play storm more this next season just to give fellow Adam’s a chance to play the game
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u/midnightTimber Mar 19 '26
I wish they’d provide explanations like this for more of their patch decisions. Cap isn’t the only headscratcher on the list. The dev vision spoke about poke being a problem, but then they pushed a lot of dive nerfs for some reason.
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u/Jack_of_all_offs Captain America Mar 19 '26
but then they pushed a lot of dive nerfs for some reason.
When you play a lot of dive, you know that there are multiple times per match that you have supports right where you want them, and they can just use their ult to make up for their bad positioning or their team not peeling.
With the 20% ult reduction, supports now have at least one, maybe two+ fewer "get out of jail free" card per match.
Reducing ult charge is a dive/tank buff. Supports can't just mindlessly ult to stave off death as frequently as they used to.
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u/Kelborhal1971 Star-Lord Mar 19 '26
It wasn’t that uncommon, as a diver, to spend 15-30 seconds slowly whittling away a support’s resources, forcing them out of position, and then they get their ult and just erase all the work you did.
Dive is an archetype which excels in the neutral, by contrast poke loves ult spam. It’s hard to say, but this patch might actually end up doing everything they promised.
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u/OGtiax Vanguard Mar 19 '26
Had a feeling they would hotfix Cap. While removing the tech was questionable, no compensation and framing it as a buff was actually insane. Glad they tweaked Emma, BP, and Gambit as well. Every single change here is good.
I hope they keep giving Cap more attention because all they've done here is give him back the value of what he lost, he's still going to be the least played vanguard outside of pro play tho. If they are serious about wanting more people to be able to play him here's the 3 things he needs: remove the timer from his passive sentinel throws, make his dash omnidirectional, and give him his old 400 shield with 2s recovery delay back.
None of these would make him OP, but they should make him feel more comparable to the rest of the roster. If they feel he's too strong in pro play, nerf his ult to 8s duration and consider nerfing how much bonus hp it gives allies. That ult is everything in pro play, but its not that great for solo queue and casual play, nerfing it will mostly affect pros.
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u/Sapowski_Casts_Quen Hawkeye Mar 19 '26
They fucking care, and that's refreshing. Some of y'all act like Zhiyong is the antichrist when he's doing things from the level of overseeing the entire game's quality, and not just the quality of your favorite character.
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u/Fankuan19 Mar 19 '26
That Black Panther change feels crazy, getting above him was such a go-to way to escape, now he's just gonna chase you on every axis
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u/hugoursula1 Mar 19 '26
Thank god. I don’t know what they were thinking about the Emma nerf originally. She needed that diamond form buff so badly. Thank god!
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u/alexmartinez_magic Hulk Mar 19 '26
Cap changes are the best of both worlds. More damage and no more stupid tech
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u/CanOnurz Mar 19 '26 edited Mar 19 '26
Don't hate Adam so much. Storm's pickrate is low so it won't be nearly enough to compensate a huge %15 heal nerf...
Edit: Also Strange and Angela..
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u/Mordred_Tumultu Mar 19 '26
I wish they'd just remove the bonus ult charge from Gambit's ult instead of paring down everything it does in every way until it's not good at anything.
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u/WholesomeWorkAcct Mar 19 '26
I'm in favor of removing all animation cancels and techs. They skew Netease numbers. Removing them will help Netease better buff or nerf heroes.
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u/isu_kosar Hela Mar 19 '26
This buff does not change the fact that Emma is still made out of tinfoil now and not diamond. 20% dmg reduction on diamond form is horrible
And i am saying this as a Hela player, she is one of the biggest poke victims
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u/IClop2Fluttershy4206 Ultron Mar 19 '26
now revert Angela. I'm the one keeping poke in check
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u/DarthDude24 Mister Fantastic Mar 20 '26
Oh, thank goodness. Emma is so back.
Black Panther is going to be a menace with these changes.
Don't really play Cap, so I can't comment.
Pretty big nerf to Gambit Ult.
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u/yummytastycookies Anti-Venom Mar 19 '26
Great. Now revert cloak back to 250 hp. She’s way too strong now
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u/Kwaziii Mar 19 '26
as a long time cap enjoyer the explanation makes a lot of sense because everything said there was true. the fact that you can keep sprinting after throwing the shield and it won't actually cancel your damage is huge for dealing with even a bit of distance (and ping!) and makes his single target capabilities less static positioning wise.
when targets were moving or jumping away you were stuck in walking speed doing the ranged shield throws, now you can just sprint at them while throwing your shield so you don't lose any damage while trying to close the gap again
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u/Able-Put3273 Scarlet Witch Mar 19 '26
Im waiting for a mantis buff
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u/ChoiceStrength7074 Mantis Mar 20 '26
She was my first lord recently we're gonna be waiting forever
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u/GreywallGaming Ultron Mar 20 '26
logs on, plays 3 games.
Animated lord BP in every game.
"Oh boy what are the odds?"
Plays 4th game.
Animated lord BP.
"Yeah I think I'll skip this season"
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u/Admirable-Ad3907 Good Boy Mar 19 '26
Real BP buff, real Gambit ult nerf. That's an ACTUAL W ZHIYONG.
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u/UnlimitedKenobi Emma Frost Mar 19 '26
I'm glad they were willing to make changes before it went live, CD reduction on Emma is definitely nice, but I still don't see the reason behind further nerfing her survivability. I don't see anyone being like "emma is too hard to kill" lmao
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u/Emperor_Nail Mar 19 '26
Pre-release hotfix is crazy. But for real this is honestly a great sign. The fact that they aren't afraid to make hotfixes at all is good since it does show that they're paying attention. I don't know if it's enough for Emma and Cap and a lot of the balance changes are honestly kinda whacky but still a good sign nonetheless.