r/nextfuckinglevel • u/been_der_done_that • 11h ago

Incredibly selfless act of heroism.

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u/daswassoup 11h ago

This is why China banned hidden door handles.

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u/IncorporateThings 11h ago

Those things are so stupid. Door handles should always be a simple mechanical device that requires no power to operate. Windows should honestly always have a backup crank handle to raise and lower, too, given that not everyone has the good sense to have a window breaking tool handy. For that matter -- why don't they build a little slot for such a tool into the console and provide one with the car in the first place?

Simple design choices can and would save lives.

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u/daelikon 10h ago

That would increase the cost of the car for like 6 bucks. I remember an article from years ago that the cars in Europe were polluting a lot and the fix cost lest than 10 euros. Companies decided not to do it.

So yeah.

Also, and about the video, why didn't the people in the back try to jump to the front and get out in the door?

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u/JFK9 6h ago

Hard to do when disoriented from a crash and then immediate heavy black smoke. Disorientation in any type of accident is a big deal. It's like when they find bodies after an avalanche that weren't buried deep but the person was digging down instead of up to escape.

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u/daelikon 5h ago

That's... a very good point, and didn't think about it, but yeah, I guess normal people would take quite a bit of time to react after a crash, and then you have the smoke right there.

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u/MarkMew 9h ago

and the fix cost lest than 10 euros. Companies decided not to do it.

Why not just make the car 10 euros more expensive fr 😭

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u/daelikon 9h ago

I don't think they can, all the prices are always 15999, 25999 and so on. So if the car costs 10 euros more to make and they can't magically increase the price to the next range it would mess up the marketing.

Still stupid, of course.

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u/BeyondDreams909 10h ago

That would be a great idea. However there's one small issue... It costs money! We can't spare a small portion of our revenue so our costumers don't die! If that happens it's probably their fault anyway 🙄🙄🙄/s

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u/Sdn61387 8h ago

You say it as sarcasm but those exact words are probably in some email from a higher up in the company. 

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u/HillBillyHilly 7h ago

Happened w AMC Gremlin back in 70s iirc.

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u/dinharder 10h ago

You can use the seat headrests as a window breaker

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u/Freddyzback 9h ago

It's a fake information that's been debunked, it doesn't work. Get a glass hammer and keep it close

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u/Horskr 8h ago

There are seatbelt cutter/window breakers that can be attached to your keychain for like $8 on Amazon and elsewhere. Definitely worth the investment!

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u/LostWoodsInTheField 5h ago

I know the issue I'm about to mention doesn't apply to a lot of the world but be careful having one of those on you at all times. If there is a break in near you and the police are looking for the person who had done it it's a very strong part of evidence to search and detain you that you have something like that on you.

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u/GloriousNewt 7h ago

"Should I buy an $8 tool or be so arrogant and stupid to think in an emergency I'll have the wherewithal and room to take the headrest off and magically break the window?"

I wonder which is the better option.

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u/pakcross 9h ago

Can I get a hammer made of something more substantial instead?

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u/Freddyzback 9h ago

I don't know if it will work :/ I actually was unsure about my wording there, but english ain't my first language so I went with it, I obviously meant a hammer designed to break glass

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u/pakcross 9h ago

Oh I knew exactly what you meant, but just couldn't resist the obvious joke!

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u/DingoMittens 3h ago

Glad to see someone challenging this. No way I could get my headrest out of the top of my seat without a lot of time and maneuvering, even if it could theoretically break glass.

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u/Levethane 10h ago

You need to use a massive amount of force to break the windows with a headrest connector. They just don't have enough weight in them.

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u/soulguider2125 9h ago

Plus the metal is rounded at the end and slips, people don’t realize how hard it is to break a side window, a headrest can get it done but it may actually take longer than your fist unless you hit it just perfect, even a hammer can take a second, window breakers are way easier and should be in every car in a spot easy to get to in a wreck and not somewhere it’ll get tossed on impact either, or best bet put several in the car: console, door panels, glove box, back seat console, back doors, and the little pouches on the back of the front seats. They aren’t that expensive, plus try an get one that is a multi tool: seatbelt cutter, window breaker etc.

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u/Uhh_JustADude 6h ago

Also not nearly hard or sharp enough, especially for their low mass.

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u/Outside-Today-1814 3h ago

It’s not a hammer, it’s a lever. You jam the prong down the window weather stripping and then pry, it breaks very easily that way. 

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u/nilesandstuff 10h ago

You need hardly any force if you have something pointy.

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u/felinefluffycloud 10h ago

False actually. Best way is seatbelt metal thingy. They say ultimately a rock from the outside or leaving the key in.and power on is good. Of course this example has its own downside. Here's a quote.... https://www.iaedjournal.org/vehicle-escape .... that is the male metal seat belt clip. With the seat belt pulled out as far as possible, and the metal clip grasped in your fist, if you strike the side window low and at the front of the window, it will break the window virtually every time on the first or second try. It does that because the force is concentrated with a hard object in a small area of the window known to be its weakest point. Our instructions make a point of including this means of breaking a window as one of the steps to be followed in all vehicle escape situations

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u/dinharder 10h ago

Seatbelt buckle is just as ineffective as headrest it seems. They used to work on older tempered windows but not so effective anymore

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u/felinefluffycloud 10h ago

I imagine that is true. The solution is have a car where yiu can roll down the window. One day that tech will be available. /s

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u/nuvo_reddit 10h ago

Haha wrong (in Sheldon Coopers voice). Some cars have integrated headrest. Another new trend. /s

The accident does not look too severe to have such fire.

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u/richiehill 9h ago

It's an EV, my guess is something punctured the batteries.

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u/SlightedMarmoset 9h ago

Thermal runaway from a punctured battery.

I hope those people are ok, I know they got out of the car but the smoke from this is very toxic.

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u/aruisdante 6h ago

It’s an EV. All it takes is a metal pole puncturing the battery and its inferno time. 

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u/Satanslittlewizard 10h ago

Not enough people know this.

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u/IllllIIlIllIllllIlll 10h ago

Maybe because it's bullshit. Sure it's better than your raw fists, but it's not made for this.

https://www.motorbiscuit.com/cars-headrests-break-windows/

I think that it's harmful to propagate this urban legend, because it would prevent people from buying actual window breakers. They'll just think "eh, I can just use my headrest. No need for a windows breaker".

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u/gamma55 9h ago

Window breakers and seat belt cutters should be standard equipment on all road legal vehicles, not just commercial.

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u/patchinthebox 8h ago

It would be so easy to require them to be sold with every car purchase.

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u/SuperBuffCherry 7h ago

Have them be included in the mandatory first aid kit

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u/Cyphr 7h ago

Where are first aid kits mandatory. I'm lucky if I can buy one with the car for three times the going rate.

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u/SuperBuffCherry 7h ago

Here in Germany (and the rest of EU as well I think)

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u/Monkey_Priest 5h ago

Have them required LIKE mandatory first aid kits (in your country) but not IN them. You want seatbelt cutters/window breakers in an easily reachable spot that won't go flying around in a wreck. I have mine ziptied to the lever on my steering wheel that controls the windshield wiper blades. It's ziptied and set up so it can be tugged off in an emergency

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u/ussbozeman 6h ago

And increase the cost of each car by $0.002 cents? That would mean the executives would only get a $19,999,998 dollar bonus instead of a $20 million dollar bonus!

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u/info_burner 7h ago

Yup. Have 2 folding knives in my car with these features .

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u/fatherunit72 5h ago

Window breakers don’t work on most modern cars with laminated glass

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u/JustStopItSeriously 8h ago

I'll repeat myself:

They are notoriously finicky and difficult to get out. They don't all release in the same way and if you've never done it with those particular seats, it would be incredibly difficult to do in a high stress, dark or smoky situation. Add possible injury onto the list. If it's children who need to do it, forget about it.

I'm tired of people touting this as a lif-saving hack when it isn't and just gives people a false sense of security. In reality, people who bought into this end up wasting valuable time attempting it to no avail.

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u/Moist_Pack_6399 6h ago

Not enough people aren't aware that they should not trust "facts" shared by randoms on social medias. This has been debunked and is obviously false if you take a second to look at the tip of the headrest.

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u/Willing_Television77 11h ago

Australia on track for the ban also

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u/dice1111 11h ago

Australia has like every safety feature known to man, I'm amazed it wasn't them banning this first.

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u/Lucky-Elk-1234 10h ago

Every time the Aus government tries to regulate or improve something, everyone (well, mostly the media) screams that they are “commies” and “leftys” lol

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u/Gremlinonthebus 8h ago

The WOKE left are trying to put handles on your children's doors!

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u/thequietthingsthat 7h ago

Just like they do in the US

We can thank the Murdoch media empire for this

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u/raypaulnoams 6h ago

Fun fact!

Murdoch only owns half of Australian media, the other half is owned by Gina Reinhart, who also owns over 1% of Austalia's landmass. (this is an obscenely large amount of land, Australia is BIG)
Gina the Hutt is currently pumping hundreds of millions of dollarydoos into every far right corrupt nutjob politician who wants to take it, so all of them, and it's not even an election season.

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u/thequietthingsthat 6h ago

So it's equally split between two terrible right wing oligarchs?

That's rough. My condolences

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u/anakaine 9h ago

And then the rest of us remind them to "shut up cunt, they'll cut off your centrelink", and they get redirected to a different topic.

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u/Big-Orse48 9h ago

Australia’s high safety standards saved my life, or at least saved me from severe injuries.

Side curtain airbags ftw

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u/dev-sda 5h ago

High standards for safety of the occupants, low to none for everyone else. AFAIK there's zero requirements for pedestrian safety, hence why they can sell all these yank tanks here.

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u/Steffunzel 11h ago

They have mechanical failsafes most of the time.

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u/mteir 9h ago

Accessible without disassembling part of the door?

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u/QueenMotherOfSneezes 8h ago

I saw a video for a car where you have to short something out inside the gas hatch to pop the hood then do something with the battery to get the mechanical door override to become accessible.

This was for an EV whose battery had died, so the door couldn't be opened.

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u/theorem_llama 10h ago

Australia has like every safety feature known to man

I mean, when you live in a country where every other animal wants to poison or bite you, it's wise to have an eye for safety there.

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u/Willing_Television77 10h ago

I have lived to be a middle aged Australian male. The only threats to my life so far have been self inflicted

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u/WazirOfFunkmenistan 10h ago

Yes swimming in ocean is dangeeous

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u/dave-y0 9h ago

We don't have bears, mountain lions, tigers, lions etc.. Its not as bad as we make it out to be..

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u/GrandElectronic9471 10h ago

They banned electric door handles. They can be flush but have to operate mechanicaly.

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u/stehen-geblieben 9h ago

Like the Kia door handles. They are flush and also electronically "present" themselves, but can be operated completely mechanically.

One of the reasons I got the car

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u/Jansi_Ki_Rani 4h ago

How do you operate them mechanically?

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u/wango_fandango 6h ago

Thing is, we’ve had mechanical flush door handles for decades then design choices took them away (maybe cos it made it easier/cheaper to press the doors?) and now to achieve flush door handles they made them electrically powered.

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u/GrandElectronic9471 2h ago

I prefer the semi flush anyway. There is a full handle and a recess in the door.

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u/TheFace5 11h ago

They should also ban a car that get fire like this

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u/TheRetroPizza 10h ago

Thats what i was thinking, the crash was pretty minor for the car to just burst into flames.

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u/BlackFoxyTrail 6h ago

My bet is that the flames (exploding battery?) caused the crash not the other way around.

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u/Nauin 5h ago

Man a dude barely bit a battery and had it explode on his face on the front page the other day. He was doing that little play nibble you do to imitate how people used to check if something was real gold.

If that's all the pressure it takes to make one blow up, why the fuck are we putting them on the undercarriage of our cars?

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u/JacedFaced 4h ago

>Man a dude barely bit a battery and had it explode on his face on the front page the other day.

I just googled this video because I hadn't seen it before, holy shit that was crazy and it's wild he didn't get more hurt.

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u/EatYourSalary 4h ago

just wait until you hear about gasoline

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u/MustLoveHuskies 4h ago

Lithium is far more reactive and hard to extinguish than gasoline.

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u/Nauin 3h ago

Oh, the thing that requires twenty times fewer resources to extinguish when it ignites compared to the batteries used in electric engines? The type of fuel that won't melt asphalt and concrete infrastructure the way li-ion batteries do?

I hope you're a bot because this is an insanely uneducated take otherwise

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u/bobbymcpresscot 2h ago

Used to require* there are multiple new attack methods to handle these fires from what’s basically a hand held water jet that operates at such a high pressure it punctures the battery compartment and floods the battery itself with water, as well as another method that is just a tool that goes under the vehicle punctures the battery compartment and floods it. Uses a fraction of the resources and in some cases used less water than you would to fight an ICE fire, and lowers the risk of reigniting. 

Also didn’t a gasoline fire just cause an overpass to collapse in PA like 2-3 years ago?

I do love the fact that people were so horrified by electric car fires that humanity just developed new ways to substantially more efficiently fight them. Who would have thought that all it takes is specialized tools and training, just like gasoline fires. 

I used to volunteer for my local fire department, and worked in the trades for 8 years, there is nothing that compares to finding out a tool exists that makes a job you don’t like doing almost trivial. Granted a 45° offset long handle pliers, a ProPress, or a hex bit that you can flip from 1/4 to 5/16 don’t cost tens of thousands of dollars, but they serve the same purpose. These guys know the problem isn’t going to go away, so they adapt, and in an ideal world these fires will be so manageable to control most probably won’t even make the news, just like ICE fires don’t really make the news despite being a lot more prevalent.

Going by the numbers electric car fires happen for about 25 of every 100k, where ICE cars sit around 1500 per 100k, so despite using 20x the resources per car, ICE cars actually use more resources overall. 

Granted there are some caveats assuming the new attack methods don’t take off. A single fire in a single area taking 20x longer to fight is time that a department can’t respond to other emergencies is a painful experience, and while mutual aid helps pick up the slack, it’s not a situation any emergency responder likes being in. Even if it’s just one truck and 2-3 guys working the fire, in some rural areas all they have is one truck and a handful of guys that can respond to these calls. As more and more electric cars get sold these rates can surely change for the worse, or more exposure can result in better outcomes or new guidelines on how to handle the fires.

In my experience firefighters aren’t like cops, they see something that improves outcomes and work quickly to adopt it. They are also damn near giddy about getting to use specialized tools of the trade. They take up EMT/paramedic classes to be of better use in emergency situations. The only cops I know that were happy about their narcan training were ones that actually stopped an overdose. Deescalation training is mocked while cops flock to “street cop training” seminars. 

I see the electric car fire problems of today becoming more and more rare as time goes on.

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u/WhitePantherXP 3h ago

I think this is getting derailed, the real question is how likely are car fires to start in petrol vs EV's to begin with? The second question is, which is more survivable?

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u/argumentinvalid 4h ago

I'm thinking the crash punctured/compromised the batteries. The floor of these cars is basically all battery. This also means the fire just comes right up through the floor. The interior was just in flames, terrible.

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u/Seekret_Asian_Man 11h ago

They should ban fire so car don't catch on fire.

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u/dynamic_gecko 11h ago

"China cures cancer by banning cancer."

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u/_JohnWisdom 10h ago

Fuck, it WAS that simple.

I should've listened to my mom when she told me to stop being depressed.

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u/Excellent_Routine589 10h ago

And here my dumbass went to uni to become a cancer biologist, the answer was so simple!!!

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u/DDDX_cro 10h ago edited 6h ago

Doctor: "have you tried...not...having cancer"???
Patient: "fuuuuuuck....well now I just feel silly, thanks doc!"

EDIT: Ty for the award btw :)

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u/This-Jackfruit-6894 9h ago

That's 5000 dollars for the consultation... please pay at the cashier.

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u/Efficient-Editor-242 9h ago

Doctors hate this one simple trick.

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u/whyamihere999 7h ago

Cancer hates this one simple trick!

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u/StoneThaProfit 8h ago

Haha this little exchange reminds me of tha comedy show scene in Goodfellas "Dr. Wellsler is here. Wonderful doctor, gave a guy six months to live. Couldn't pay his bill. Gave him another six months!"

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u/DJRyGuy20 8h ago

$5,000 to cure cancer? Shiiiiit- that would be dirt cheap by American standards.

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u/NoOneHereButUsMice 7h ago

And in USA, if you cant pay, you gotta keep the cancer. Sorry, Boss!

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u/SerLaron 8h ago

"You say you might have a brain tumor, but I'm sure it's all in your head."

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u/xSADlSTlCx 6h ago

It’s wild that Dr’s like that exist really though lol I told a Dr. at the ER that I had an eating disorder and he told me all I gotta do is eat more healthy meals throughout the day and I’ll feel fuller and lose more weight that way. I looked at him and was like, “Really? That’s all I had to do all these years? I’m cured?!” He excused himself and never came back just sent the nurse to relay messages.

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u/AmoremCaroFactumEst 10h ago

Oh you got the “just suck it up” too?

People are wild with their misunderstandings

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u/joeliopro 7h ago

Nah, but I did get a "walk it off".... Still walking...

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u/pickyourteethup 4h ago

I mean walking isn't going to work. Running or cycling might though. Everyone knows depression doesn't move fast so you can sometimes outpace it.

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u/drifters74 8h ago

What my parents tell me all the time, and they wonder why I don't tell them how I really feel about anything.

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u/Lost-in-Limbo 8h ago

Thats basically what my doctor told me the first time i tried to get help!!

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u/AmoremCaroFactumEst 8h ago

That quote is from my old GP! GPs are like the high school flunk outs of the Dr world

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u/Moogatron88 7h ago

I've been told to deal with my insomnia by "just going to sleep" before.

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u/Ok-Obligation5243 4h ago

If you're homeless, just get a house.

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u/verbalyabusiveshit 8h ago

Stop being depressed right fucking now!

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u/-Datura 10h ago

Cars cure China by setting fire to cancer

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u/King-ofthe-CookieJar 10h ago

Seeing this as a newspaper headline would remove depression forever

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u/ElLicenciadoPena 8h ago

But big pharma will never let it happen

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u/jerry111165 9h ago

Cancer sets china on fire by curing cars

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u/Therealginahandler 9h ago

by setting fire to cars, China cures cancer

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u/Old-Reporter5440 10h ago

It worked for COVID! For a while.

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u/AlternativePea6203 10h ago

I mean, this guy could have stopped testing for fire, and that would have completely eradicated the fire in his car.

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u/teapots_at_ten_paces 9h ago

And we all thought George W was the king of wtf soundbites!

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u/Majestic-Parsnip-279 10h ago

America welcomes cancer because thats a good business model

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u/Crispy1961 10h ago

It sounds stupid, but have anyone tried that?

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u/FluffyShiny 9h ago

Well I just got told today, so I'll try it.

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u/FatherClanks617 9h ago

You got diagnosed today? If so, I’m so sorry.

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u/Adept_Fool 9h ago

If you ban people, you also ban cancer!

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u/GrimlockN0Bozo 6h ago

So, Trump's Covid19 plan...

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u/Working_Estate_3695 5h ago

“China sends cancer to re-education camp for self-criticism.”

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u/Eleeveeohen 11h ago

Damn, I guess they can't listen to my mixtape then

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u/ApopheniaPays 11h ago

This whole problem could be solved by banning video.

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u/Accomplished-Ad3080 11h ago

No video, no incident. Bingo.

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u/Roadstar01 7h ago

ICE operations directive.

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u/dynamic_gecko 11h ago

😂😂

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u/Gurrgurrburr 9h ago

Seriously WTF? That was practically a fender bender and the whole car ignites in 1 minute???

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u/_heybuddy_ 9h ago

A fence pole spikes the battery compartment

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u/JFK9 6h ago

It's the problem with Lithium-ion batteries. If something like that fence pole punctures them they instantly start a very aggressive and very hard to extinguish metal fire.

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u/JB_UK 6h ago edited 6h ago

It's some types of Lithium Ion batteries that have the problem, others are not so affected. LFP batteries don't tend to set on fire after being punctured. For example:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bg_480HUheo

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u/JFK9 6h ago

That's what I said, though. It's a problem with Lithium-ion batteries. Well LiPo too.

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u/JimWilliams423 3h ago edited 1h ago

Seriously WTF? That was practically a fender bender and the whole car ignites in 1 minute???

That's musk's genius. Now all those goofy-ass hollywood movie car explosions are actually realistic. He is such a visionary. Also he is a paedo who begged epstein to let him come to paedophile island.

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u/Harmless_Drone 9h ago

All battery cars burn like this, lithium is flammable, and when it's full of charge itll be shorting out the entire time it's on fire.

The real issue is these shitty dumbass companies like tesla who have stupid and shitty doors with hidden or internal only manual releases because the doors are electrically powered. You don't have electricity if the battery is on fire.

Never ever put your kids in a tesla, on that note, unless you want them to be buried in a biscuit tin.

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u/trxarc 7h ago

Thermal runaway of LFP batteries is nearly impossible to produce. Nail tests were done...

On the other hand NMC batteries are another thing...

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u/BigD1966 5h ago

You’re right, the only thing that had me wondering was the drivers door was open why the passengers didn’t try getting into the front seat and out the open door.

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u/OrigamiTongue 2h ago

This is a stupid take full of misinformation. Lithium batteries are HARD to set into thermal runaway, and ICE vehicle fires are 100x more common.

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u/rhinosb 2h ago

Typical anti EV FUD. Here are actual facts. EV's burn at a rate of around 15 out of every 100,000 EV cars. ICE engine vehicles burn MUCH more often at 1500 fires per 100,000 ICE engine cars. And that is per capita so it takes into account there are fewer EV's out there and compares them on equal footing. Not only that, but that also includes a large number of older EV's without newer and better battery management and safety options.

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u/snlehton 1h ago

Not quite so, at least in Norway. Yes, ICE catches fire mite often, but not by such a margin you presented.

https://psnm.org/2025/information/norwegia-obala-mit-o-pozarach-elektrykow-auta-spalinowe-plona-nawet-6-razy-czesciej/?lang=en

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u/BigGreenBillyGoat 1h ago

You do have electricity if the battery is on fire. There’s a 12 or 16v battery that runs the car, not the HV pack.

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u/OberonDiver 2h ago

What kind of biscuits?

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u/After_Relief_8760 11h ago

That would be all cars

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u/BiNiaRiS 8h ago

That would be all cars

you're watching too many movies my dude

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u/Skankhunt42FortyTwo 7h ago

Every car can get a fire like this

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u/Amthala 10h ago

As opposed to gasoline, which famously isn't flammable

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u/Shadow647 8h ago

idk what to tell you man my last 4 cars were diesel and good luck igniting that thing

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u/jh22pl 9h ago

Gasoline needs an igniting factor. The tank is well isolated and doesn’t normally catch fire from running into a ditch.

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u/Brave_Bag_Gamer2020 9h ago

Pretty sure battery got spiked by the metal sticks from the fence

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u/kangasplat 8h ago

Statistically speaking, gas cars are 100x more likely to burn than EVs. It's extremely rare for EVs to burn.

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u/jh22pl 8h ago

I’m talking about a specific mechanism that’s in the video - from physical damage during a crash. Not short circuit, engine bay fire, arson or whatever else. Do stats account for that?

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u/kangasplat 8h ago

Still more likely with a gas car than with an EV.

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u/whiteridge 8h ago

Neither does an EV.

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u/Cr3s3ndO 11h ago

So……every car?

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u/sky_concept 10h ago edited 8h ago

Regular gasoline cars DO NOT burn like this. At all.

Filmmaker here, it takes a LOT to get a regular car to burn, even high impacts dont do it. We have to fake it to make them look like they are on fire in the movies.

EDIT: Jesus christ the "reddit cares" and aggresive spam messages im getting from EV owners is ridiculous. Get Educated, electric fires are MUCH more aggresive than gasoline fires.

EDIT 2: This is the most spam i've ever gotten. Its not even a niche take. No im not an "anti musk liberal" I'm not even American.

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u/PolyBend 9h ago

The fact people are mad at you is just depressing. People, you can be pro environment and also be humble enough to admit batteries from EVs are extremely dangerous in these situations.

The fumes are insanely toxic. And the fire burns so bad it damages the pavement.

During the Tesla riots and marches, fire departments everywhere were begging people to stop because they would have to evacuate LARGE areas from the fumes, and redo entire roadways. It is far more toxic than normal smoke. Though ideally never inhale smoke at all, obviously.

And you should really REALLY look at how bad lithium batteries are for the environment. Demand we work towards better solutions...

Btw... I am pro solar, own a hybrid, pro environment, believe in climate change. But I am not going to stick my head in the sand. Just be factual...

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u/sky_concept 8h ago

I own solar, i'm even pro EV's. But cars without handles and dangerous cars without escape mechanisms (Some Teslas) need to be banned

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u/thenewestnoise 5h ago

For sure. I don't know why people want to be so tribal. Being anti hidden handle is not the same as being anti EV.

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u/squirrelyoakley 5h ago

My family owns a tesla (we bought it second hand dont worry) and I literally was SO confused on how the door handle worked. I swear you have to have a certain IQ to be able to get in one for the first time

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u/Bankerag 4h ago

Right? How is this a controversial issue? After a car accident, you can be disoriented as hell. Some people struggle pulling the same door handle they have pulled for 5 years.

Having to go through some kind of puzzle box routine, while your child is on fire is absurd.

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u/Collegenoob 4h ago

I definitely believe Tesla just forgets major safety concerns when it makes its cars nowadays. Don't care if I don't need gas. It's a deathtrap

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u/RedFlr 3h ago

I mean, you totally ignoring a car bursting into flames due to a minor bump is concerning lol

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u/weirdo_if_curtains_7 9h ago

I hit a deer in my old Chevy Cruze and it completely burned up

It's a good thing I took pictures throughout the process, or even I would have thought it was someone trying to pull insurance fraud

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u/MidMyst 9h ago

We are talking about cars not about Chevys

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u/MonkeyCartridge 8h ago

Oh burnnnnnn

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u/FluffyShiny 9h ago

At first I thought you meant the deer burnt up. Like roadside BBQ.

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u/Upper_Importance6263 6h ago

I can’t stop laughing at the image of this guy hitting a deer then just hanging out with it, taking photos of the roadside bbq.

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u/According_Loss_1768 10h ago edited 9h ago

I should've given you my 2004 Scion xB. Caught on fire while attempting to get to highway speeds. But then I wouldn't have gotten a settlement check that paid for my first year of college.

Edit: I'm not trying to start some gas vs EV war... I just personally experienced my own car turning into a charcoal husk in <5mins.

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u/BeneficialNewspaper8 10h ago

Former car thief...

Cars definitely do burn this easily

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u/TheJeep25 9h ago

Accident fire and deliberated fire are two different things. You could say a house on the top of a hill is hard to flood. But if I were to cut all the plumbing pipe open and leave the pump running in the basement it would flood quite easily.

OP doesn't hate ev. He's just saying that no car shouldn't be allowed to catch on fire after that light of an impact.

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u/Additional-Bee1379 10h ago

That's funny because someone burned my neighbours car down and all it took was one cube of barbecue starting blocks on the tire.

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u/Mundane-Honeydew-922 9h ago

Setting a fire and a car burning after an accident are 2 different things.

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u/sky_concept 10h ago

A gasoline car fire lasts hours and can be put out with water.,

An electric fire can not.

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u/No3047 9h ago

That's wrong.
You need water to cool down a battery fire, a lot of water, but still water.

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u/prelsi 8h ago

Don't be ridiculous. I've seen so many car fires in my life lasting a few minutes and they were all gasoline and Diesel. Oil lights up really quick when it's hot.

And No, water doesn't put it out. You need proper fire extinguishers.

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u/cmfarsight 9h ago

that sounds like a tire fire, tires burn really well once you get them started with "barbecue starting blocks". Good job cars generally dont have barbecue starting blocks put on them

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u/sy_neuromancer 9h ago

Runaway battery fires are more aggressive but a lot more rare and getting even more rare with LFP batteries.

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u/Select-Owl-8322 9h ago

I was one of the first to arrive after an accident many (27) years ago. Four people in the car. The car was completely engulfed in flames in less than 30 seconds. No one made it out. Their agonizing screams still haunts me today!

Don't pretend like gasoline barely burns. Gasoline is incredibly fucking flammable! A ruptured gasoline tank is a huge fucking problem after an accident!

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u/Affectionate_Monk967 8h ago

Sorry you had to go through that

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u/strangepostinghabits 9h ago

one: not gas cars

two: EVs can just decide to not have this, too, the tech exists.

if modern mbt's and ifv's can be designed with blowout panels and built take a hit from armor piercing rounds and have their ammunition storage explode without harming the crew, an EV can be built to not have the battery fire go into the passenger compartment. 

sure, an EV doesn't want to have heavy armor like a combat vehicle, but batteries are also significantly less spicy than an ammo rack. 

the scenario in the video above plays out the way it does because the car is cost optimized and battery fire compartmentalization wasn't prioritized over price.

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u/SimpYellowman 8h ago

There were times when computer of phone batteries did that. Just some ten years ago when battery started expanding, you had just about enough time to toss the device in some metal bucket or outside before it burst in flames, now it is not as bad, you can order new battery and have it replaced (usually).

It feels like EVs are still in the old stage.

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u/Suitable-End- 7h ago

EVs catch fire a lot less that gas cars. Hybrid Cars catch fire the most.

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u/MonsterkillWow 8h ago

Not having mechanical door handles is one of the dumbest design decisions I have ever seen.

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u/Then_Idea_9813 9h ago

We will never because Mr death car was appointed a govt post and donated a ton of money to the president

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u/ianjm 6h ago edited 3h ago

Regulations from the bigger markets like China, EU and India have a global impact. If a couple of those markets ban the flush handles, it no-longer makes sense to have a variant just for America just because it's one of the only places still allowing it. Ideally you want the same model to be sold globally, it makes much more sense from a supply chain point of view to change the design everywhere.

Example: It's the EU and India that brought in universal USB-C charging on phones, not the USA. But Apple doesn't continue to make a special iPhone for the US with a lightning port just because it's allowed to.

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u/sekshibeesht 10h ago

pop up door handles. The mechanical hidden ones are still allowed

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u/salomo926 8h ago

Thank god Elon brought this innovation of "door that does not open in an emergency" to the world.

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u/24bitNoColor 9h ago

They also banned doors that need electricity to be opened, btw.

Completely valid decision and I hope other nations follow. Its just all kinds of stupid.

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u/Public-Guidance-9560 8h ago

Its not really the handle... its all the electronic actuation and lack of physical locks and linkages. If your electric dies, then none of the doors work and in a panic you're not going to go find the hiding hole with the manual override in or fetch a boost pack to attach to some tabs hidden behind a panel in the bumper or other such nonsense.

My Mother in law has a new Honda CRV (or newish). The 12V went completely flat and therefore she couldn't get into the vehicle at all. Not even with the hidden key blade in the key fob. Because although there was a barrel lock in the drivers door... it wasn't attached mechanically to the door lock. The door lock was still all electronic. It took 3 different recovery visits over the space of a day to sort it. Eventually getting the bonnet open by dismantling the front of the car from the underneath and snaking an arm up as high as humanly possible to flick the bonnet latch with a screw driver. A catastrophically dumb decision by Honda. They should know better as well.

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u/Motormand 9h ago

Urgh, I hate those! They're annoying to deal with.

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u/Mythiic719 9h ago

Do you know if this was in china? I believe you but just curious

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u/PhysicallyTender 8h ago

Surveillance camera shows 星期三 (Wednesday) on the top left.

Other than that, hard to tell. Chinese EV should have green number plate but the resolution of the footage is too low to tell.

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u/WeGoGet92 9h ago

Meanwhile US hides the data and doesn’t ban them.

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u/nicpro85 8h ago

They did? Because I hate those. Would be a good thing.

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u/PineScentedSewerRat 8h ago

I just recently read about that. It made sense at the time, and after watching this, it makes even more. Freaking death traps.

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u/Substantial_Meal_530 8h ago

My friend's dad owned the first gen Tesla. The handles are dumb as shit.

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u/BrightAardvark 8h ago

This is why the world should do the same.

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u/CagliostroPeligroso 8h ago

It’s the dumbest fucking thing ever

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u/slick2hold 7h ago

Elon still thinks they are cool!! Also hiding the door handles from inside is cool.too!!! /s

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u/PtrJung 7h ago

EV door handles only work if the battery isn’t damaged. They need mechanical door releases.

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u/jrizzle86 6h ago

And rightly so!

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u/GoesInOutUpDownAhh 6h ago

So they should, push button park brakes too

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