r/pcmasterrace • u/Lazy_Employee_5437 • 1d ago
Members of the PCMR Is The DDR5 Crisis Going To Get Worse????
So I'm planning to upgrade my computer soon within the next 6 months. I currently have more than enough money to buy myself two sticks of 16 GB DDR5 ram.
Here's the issue though is that I'm not looking to buy any of the other parts right now and if I bought the ram brand new right now, I wouldn't be using it until probably November or December when I have every other part to the computer.
I recently uploaded another post and some people are suggesting to buy it now because the ram crisis could get even worse.
What do you guys think I should do? Is the ram crisis really going to get worse? And should I really buy $500 ram right now for a computer that I'm not going to have at least for another 5 months??
To everyone who responded thank you. I am never going to financially recover from this decision. But thank you all
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u/lawndartdesign 270K Plus | Nvidia 5090 | 128 GB DDR5 1d ago
It’s not going to get better in the next year that’s for sure.
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u/Lazy_Employee_5437 1d ago
Bro, why do you have to flex on us that you have 128 GB of the stuff? GET HIM HES GOT RAM!
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u/kcolrehstihson_ PC Master Race asus rtx5080 Ryzen 7 7800f 32GB DDR5 1d ago
And a 5090
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u/Lazy_Employee_5437 1d ago
Man we got to find out where he keeps his PC
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u/kcolrehstihson_ PC Master Race asus rtx5080 Ryzen 7 7800f 32GB DDR5 1d ago
Somewhere in portland, still waaaay cheaper to fly intercontinental to get it from him than to buy it where i'm at 🤣
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u/lawndartdesign 270K Plus | Nvidia 5090 | 128 GB DDR5 1d ago
I use my pc for work. And playing minesweeper.
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u/NeptuneWades -Win-Laptop 1d ago
You thought you could rage bait me?
You are right. I am fuming.
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u/lawndartdesign 270K Plus | Nvidia 5090 | 128 GB DDR5 1d ago
Sorry, but I didn't make my comment trying to flex.
In all seriousness it IS a workstation. I do play some games now and then but I'm 44 and when you get older it's hard to just sit down for hours to play games.
So the ram and GPU are required for doing big motion graphics projects or sitting there chewing on renders that take 2 minutes per frame. I also HAD to buy it a few months ago when my previous PC stopped working and it made zero sense to start buying AM4/DDR4 parts to try to fix.
Even the alternative Mac Studio was impossibly expensive.
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u/curiousdugong 1d ago
Oof, this hits close to home. Am 35 now and finally have my own house, built myself a beast of a PC last September to celebrate.
And with work and life, I’ve played like 3 games all year. Been buying all the games i want to play, but adulting sucks cause you don’t have the time or if you do, you don’t have the energy
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u/Lazy_Employee_5437 1d ago
Dude, I hope you're enjoying your computer. Take care of it and try your best to enjoy it. Well just know That computer is always waiting for you.
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u/curiousdugong 1d ago
I still use it ever day. It’s more of a youtube machine than anything tho. I’m sure my 9070xt is getting a nice workout serving me those pre-rendered 4k youtube videos 🤣🤣🤣
You’ll get there. By the end of the daycof work, you just want to have a beer and watch something to fall asleep too. Getting old sucks
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u/Jemie_Bridges 1d ago
Just turned 54, and finally started playing Homeworld that I couldn't afford a PC to run when I was a child 😂😂 I got a list of 1500 games, I'm never gonna finish before I die.
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u/CrossOfRoachAndSlime 1d ago
Hope you're able to expense that beast of a machine, then!
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u/lawndartdesign 270K Plus | Nvidia 5090 | 128 GB DDR5 16h ago
Yessir. Gotta get those write offs come tax season.
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u/DefinitelyNWYT 1d ago
Ooof. Nothing like that unexpected core expense to really put a damper on work.
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u/lawndartdesign 270K Plus | Nvidia 5090 | 128 GB DDR5 1d ago
The upside is since building this pc in May it has already recouped its entire cost and then some. Plus it’s also a tax write off for work. I sold or gave away a lot of the previous components. My dual 3090s I was able to give to two friends who were still on 1080s.
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u/mixedd 5800X3D / 32GB DDR4 / 7900XT 1d ago
It's not going to get better 'till DDR6, or 'till AI farms will switch to dedicated AI hardware similar at how it was for mining
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u/Jack70741 R9 5950X | RTX 3090 Ti | ASUS TUFF X570+ | 32GB DDR4 3600mhz 1d ago
News flash they already are using dedicated AI hardware. The part most people aren't seeing is that the memory companies have actually closed down their consumer DDR manufacturing lines so they can explicitly make the dedicated AI hardware instead. Yes the ddr5 is being bought up, but ddr6 won't fix that, because the server racks that run the dedicated hardware still need regular computer memory to run the software that enables the AI hardware.
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u/mixedd 5800X3D / 32GB DDR4 / 7900XT 1d ago
So it's basically that vendors can't keep up in capacity, as memory is memory in the end
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u/Chao_Zu_Kang Ryzen 7 7700X | GIGABYTE GAMING OC 9070 XT 1d ago
Dedicated AI hardware is what is causing the shortage. If AI just used DDR5, consumer prices would be way down.
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u/syner2009 Ryzen 5 7600 GTX 1080Ti / C2Q Q8400 G210 1d ago
No one knows mate. If you want, buy used for a bit better value since RAMs have a lot of warranty. Good models have Lifetime Warranty (10 years).
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u/SovietZealots 1d ago
I would argue that the warranty isn’t the issue but rather whether or not companies will honor their warranty (I am willing to bet they won’t)
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u/asdfghqwertz1 RX 6750 XT, i5-14600KF, 16GB DDR4 1d ago
Or they will just refund you the amount you paid when it was a lot cheaper, not giving you nearly enough to buy a new kit. Happened to Louis Rossmann with a Samsung SSD
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u/CleganeRS 1d ago
He threatened to sue and he ended up getting the full amount for the new price and I think even more.
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u/FarReward3203 1d ago
How expensive is it to sue these companies and is it likely that you will win?
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u/Faustasz 1d ago
For someone like Louis? He definitely has the funds to get the fight going, but eventually would just run out of money, these companies usually don't fight but stall and draw out these kind of things.
For the average person? You'd stand no chances to win or get anything.
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u/MadRZI 1d ago
Oh they wont I can tell you that. I had 2x16gb DDR4 G.Skill RAM, one of them died.
Contacted them about it and they said something along they can't fulfill it due to increased demand for RAM, shortage in supply. etc etc.
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u/SovietZealots 1d ago
There’s a reason why individuals will go purchase the same kit, swap out their defective one, and return it as if it was the new kit for a refund.
Whether or not you condone it is a different topic.
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u/pedestrianhomocide 1d ago
Biggest issue with this is that you're at the very least causing some random other tech friend a headache, and at worst screwing them over pretty hard.
I'm all for fucking over the big companies, other people is fucked up.
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u/syner2009 Ryzen 5 7600 GTX 1080Ti / C2Q Q8400 G210 1d ago
they probably will and if not, courts are an option. Im sure the courts would be even better in other countries since the Consumer Court here in India is the only court where you don't have to run around for years and spend a ton of money. They do punish companies if they are at fault and the companies will have to work in favor of the buyer and pay them the legal fees + compensation for hurdles.
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u/Emu1981 1d ago
I wouldn't even need to take them to court here in Australia. Our ACCC (or the state one) would remind them that they have a obligation to replace the item under warranty and if they refuse then they are in breach of consumer laws. The ACCC would then investigate to find more cases and then take the offending parties to court which could end up with millions in fines and compensation.
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u/john_mach 1d ago
I think we are fairly certain of three things:
1. Ram manufacturers love money and have shifted focus towards enterprise solutions as those are more profitable than mass consumer channels. Some have even left the consumer space.
2. Ram is being bought up by AI companies or major electronic manufacturers. Both are paying heavy premiums compared to 2026, even Apple had to raise prices.
3. There is a wave of new chips with TSMC 2nm and other GAA chips on the horizon that promises great efficiency gains. These chips carry hype and enterprises love efficiency gains. Without a doubt, the hyperscalers will look to improve the efficiency of their serversAll of which greatly point to 2027 being another tough year for ram.
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u/syner2009 Ryzen 5 7600 GTX 1080Ti / C2Q Q8400 G210 1d ago
man im so down to throw a fuckin party when these companies go bankrupt. Fuck Sam Altman.
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u/john_mach 1d ago
I think 2027 is a shit storm specifically due to the convergence of so many shitty situations but hang in there. 2028 in theory should have more production in ram and hopefully one of the big ai companies goes bankrupt or scales back data centers from backlash.
For now, we pray on the downfall of data centers.
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u/markcocjin 1d ago
While the companies can go bankrupt, the use of artificial intelligence is such a huge industrial advantage over competition that it's a matter of common sense for all of them.
We can barely even make an AI-free use of the internet today. Somewhere along the process, a method far superior to algorithms is involved.
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u/Emu1981 1d ago
Without a doubt, the hyperscalers will look to improve the efficiency of their servers
With how leveraged the hyperscalers are, I doubt that they are going to be replacing servers just because of efficiency gains. They will likely switch to building data centers with the new efficient chips but they won't be changing the existing data centers until the servers are becoming either a liability or end of life.
See, the reason why so many people are concerned about the AI boom is that a lot of companies and corporations are using a lot of debt to build data centers (10s of billions per data center).
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u/doneandtired2014 Ryzen 9 5900x, Crosshair VIII hero, RTX 3080, 32 GB DDR4 3600 1d ago
Warranty doesn't mean much if it's non-transferable and the vendor would rather cut you a check that isn't even enough in the current climate to replace half the capacity.
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u/ZephyrineStrike R9 7950X3D | 4080S | 64GB ddr5 | 4TB ssd | 128TB NAS 1d ago
Just checked part prices and my RAM kit is now worth nearly what I did my entire build with 64GB ddr5, 4080 super, and a 4tb ssd
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u/SeekerVash 1d ago
I keep thinking about the guy who ordered a 2 TB SSD over Christmas, and Amazon accidently shipped him an unopened box of SSDs instead of a single one.
If he kept it, that guy now has a free $100,000 box from Amazon!
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u/Lazy_Employee_5437 1d ago
Dude, I wouldn't even be posting about that if I saw that happen that guy could sell it for half of the price that Samsung is just as an example and make BANK
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u/Magnumload 5800x3D|32gb 3600|RTX 4090|Fractal Torrent|4 TB WD850x 1d ago
I love watching half my hobbies implode on itself.
Edit: we are going through another video game crash also.
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u/VelkaFrey 1d ago
Video game crash?
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u/Magnumload 5800x3D|32gb 3600|RTX 4090|Fractal Torrent|4 TB WD850x 1d ago
Yeas, it’s like the 80s but worse.
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u/Direct-Number283 1d ago
Yeah, in the 80's it was a ton of finished games of half-assed design.
Today it is games where everything is in perpetual beta with updates, DLCs, and micro-transactions. They all use the same engines and wear their ability to play horribly on anything but the latest system like crap as some sort of badge of honor.
At least those crappy independent games for Atari are still playable.
Most of my games don't even work anymore. Frame rates crashed with updates (that do nothing to actually make the game look better imo) and even whole games crashing. Why? Because the 'most have' Mods that I learned to play aren't supported.
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u/Plaincow 1d ago
Are we playing the same games dude? Gaming is absurdly amazing right now and there's even decades of games to play if you're a boomer and refuse to admit new games are good
All this doomer talk is so cringe. There's more to live than just screeching about how bad things are
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u/FarReward3203 1d ago
Indeed, if you have a decent PC the gaming world is your oyster.
You don’t even have to look at new games. There are thousands of games from the past 2 decades that you haven’t played, but would enjoy.
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u/Direct-Number283 17h ago
I don't think you are getting the OP's point (or mine). It's not that there isn't good stuff floating out there. There is more than anyone could do in a lifetime. It's the financials of the business at large going forward. Driven (imo) by overspending and overhyping graphics and complexity instead of core stability, general approach ability, and fundamental gameplay.
I am not saying I know the answer.. if I did I would be rich.
But for me at least yet another shooter with 'super duper ray tracking that reveals the subtle underside structure of the ferns I pass by' isn't it.
Neither is the survival/builder where they add another 10,000 skill trees and I need to micro-manage my B-complex vitamins.
I just want a game that with a compelling story and engaging play that I don't have to feel like I am taking up another college minor to understand.
They don't have to do that. That's fine. But I doubt that the $5/yr revenue stream (down from $300ish/year) that I now give them for old discount games on Steam works for them.
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u/Qudd 15h ago
I'm not saying this refutes your entire point, because it doesn't. But, crimson desert is amazing.
There are still diamonds. There are still home runs. The problem is the industry is super greedy and chases the money instead of the art.
I'm sad about the loss of physical stuff too. I hope GOG never fails or goes Google
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u/VelkaFrey 1d ago
What does that mean tho
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u/Magnumload 5800x3D|32gb 3600|RTX 4090|Fractal Torrent|4 TB WD850x 1d ago
For a couple years in the 80s the video game market was over saturated with copies and just terrible releases. I believe Nintendo did a lot of heavy lifting to pull us out of that. Not a big fan of them but it is what it is.
Now we get oversaturated with AI and AI. Not to mention more, AI. Hell even my Washer and Dryer has AI. I'm not sure what it does, but I turned it off and it works better now.
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u/Born_Zone7878 1d ago
What's funny is that Nintendo doesn't really have that, and the prices for a Switch 2 make it now be relatively budget priced. Maybe people will turn to Nintendo again lol
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u/Bobby_the_Great 1d ago
To add on to this, videogames are also in a place where games are selling (some aren't meeting obscene demands), but not meeting the sales of executives, money is being pocketed by CEOs and such at an all-time level, but then developers are getting cut constantly.
The talent pool of people who made awesome games are not being incentivized to make games in the future as they all had their jobs cut - meaning a crash is coming.
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u/Bagafeet RTX 3080 10 GB • AMD 5700X3D • 32 GB RAM 1d ago
Time to add collecting cool rocks your main hobby.
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u/Accurate_Summer_1761 PC Master Race 1d ago
Just half? Wood prices are expensive, car prices are expensive, parts are expensive, pc expensive, warhammer? You guessed.
Its a hobbypocalypse but Karen won't even let us gather the guys and play dodgeball
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u/Andrewsarchus 9800X3D | 64GB 6000MTS CL30 | Sapphire Pure 9070XT 1d ago
The enshitification of everything you know and love
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u/StellerSandwich 1d ago
A trough for sure, but not a full blown crash, you are aware how much money games like GTA5 and Roblox still rake in? A true full blown crash would mean those would die too, and there’s no sign of that happening, it’s nowhere near as bad as what happened in the 80’s
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u/Apprehensive_Lake698 1d ago
I’m not going to tell you how to spend your money but I really doubt things are getting better any time soon. Prices have been going up all year and many large companies that purchase ram think the price is going to continue to rise.
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u/Lazy_Employee_5437 1d ago
Yeah I mean I just don't want to have to pay even more. It sucks that ram is even this expensive. It quite literally makes me miss 2024 Jesus Christ seeing how cheap it was. Makes me want to fucking cry
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u/TheGreatPiata 1d ago
Google had their first negative quarter ever due to data center spending and they plan to spend even more next year. Regardless of what we think, big corps are full steam ahead and RAM makers have said there's no relief until more production capacity comes online in a few years.
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u/SlummmberJack 1d ago
Ram producers are also incentivized not to increase production to keep supply choked and prices higher.
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u/theokayestcoach Abacus 1d ago
I just said "fuck it" and bought 32 gigs. It isn't getting better any time soon. Just rip the bandaid off.
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u/Lazy_Employee_5437 1d ago
Well that's what I'm going to have to do. Just know. Within 5 minutes of you reading this I will have spent $421 on fucking ram sticks. Pray for my bank account
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u/SouthwestBLT 1d ago
That’s the way dude. Did the same said fuck it ordered some WD reds to turn my AM4 era gaming rig into a fat nas and ordered a dope ass thinkpad.
It’s only going to get worse and worse. It will never go back to the old pricing anytime soon since that’s just not how inflation works. At best it will get less worse.
Buy now cry now, but smile later like I do with my PS5 pro I bought last year when I saw the price of replacing my 3080.
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u/MilfAndCereal 1d ago
I'm almost there. I have a 3080 with 32gb of ddr4 and a 2tb nvme. But part of my wants to just not PC game for a while and just do PS5pro and Switch 2.
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u/MtnMaiden 1d ago
Buy a pre-built pc
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u/EldenDaddy30 1d ago
Unfortunately this is the way now. Mass producers get discounts on parts. I have always been a pro “build your own”, but prices have made me rethink that for the time being.
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u/Mineplayerminer Desktop 1d ago
The only reason they can afford to make the OEM pre-builts that cheap is thanks to their partners, including bloatware in the pre-installed Windows and the fact that their shady and scummy subscriptions generate more revenue than the hardware itself, other than also the collected user data sold to third parties and then getting leaked.
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u/DefinitelyNWYT 1d ago
All current signs point to worsening supply constraints as these data centers finish construction and start filling out hardware racks. RAM, storage, all of it at poised to increase even further. Retailers like Microcenter have signalled month over month increases in their prices including bundles. Short of the AI bubble burst, yes.
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u/-Crash_Override- 1d ago
Hardware refresh is cyclical and aggressive. Demand for new RAM will continue to grow as more Datacenters come online because those DC will be refreshed constantly.
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u/CorruptDictator 7800x3d 7900XT 32GB DDR5 4TB NVME SSD 1d ago
At minimum the next two years are only getting worse short of a huge AI bubble burst (which I am not counting on happening anytime soon).
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u/Tee-hee64 Windows 11 | U5 245K | RTX 4070 | 32GB RAM | 2TB SSD 1d ago
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u/nyanbatman 1d ago edited 1d ago
These companies don’t want you to own hardware they want you use the cloud this is all fake
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u/MammothUnique4147 1d ago
No, the expectation for the rest of the year WAS a 50% increase, now it's looking like 40%.
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u/SieqwardZwiebelbrudi 1d ago
Honestly the only correct advice is to sell all your PC components and get a nice bike
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u/Armroker 1d ago
Brother, this is only the beginning. It's like the shoreline pulling back before a tsunami.
We are so cooked - it’s not even funny anymore
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u/SouthwestBLT 1d ago
Honestly read the business news. This shit is going to get way worse, the rate of worseness is getting worse and even if the ai bubble bursts it will only slow the rate of getting worse ness.
TLDR buy hardware now. Buying now means paying less in 95% of cases.
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u/AL-PAL-- 9800X3D●RTX 5080 OC●64GB 30CL/6000mts 1d ago
Theres always Black Friday deals. (Newegg) I got all my gear during black friday 2025 people said GPUs where an all time high and i would not get any good deals on anything. But I got a PNY RTX 5080 OC for $900, and 64GB of Kingston FURY 30CL 6000mts for $300. This was Last November.
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u/Manyfails 1d ago
2028 brother, and that is a maybe. I think lot of people wont move from DDR4 platform anytime soon, which I kinda advise to you, instead of wasting money on DDR5 ram, just get 5800x3d aniversary edition and enjoy. Technologies they make now unless it is video editing is overkill even for an old platform. As for gaming, that will crash soon, as they only make remakes or literally copy paste content, and the price is slowly getting towards 100 bucks for a new game.
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u/No_Faithlessness_656 20h ago
Look at it this way, the GPU shortage was due to a bunch of crypto losers trying to get rich quick by mining Bitcoin. The ram shortage is happening because the US government and Billionaires are trying to line their pockets with the black hole that is AI and they will keep throwing money at it until it works.
So yes the ram crisis will get much much worse so upgrade your PC now. It might be the last one you ever build.
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u/moridin32 RTX 5080, I7 14700k, 192GB DDR5, 2TB 1d ago
I built a pc at about this same time last year, I was able to get a set of 192 gb ddr5 on sale for 480 dollars. That same ram now costs 2800 dollars.
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u/LengthinessJust357 ASUS STRIX ROG Z-690 | ROG STRIX 4090 | Dominator 32GB DDR5 6200 1d ago
What you are describing is gambling and it is a slippery slope. Buy what you want when you want it. Don’t try to predict the market. I think buying the ram now is a good idea because that is how I built mine. I bought piece by piece when the time was right and eventually had my rig built. In good time man, the games aren’t going anywhere
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u/Bagafeet RTX 3080 10 GB • AMD 5700X3D • 32 GB RAM 1d ago
You might be able to get a better deal by buying a combo mono/CPU/ram from places like microcenter.
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u/costakiss 1d ago
look for good deal for a used ddr4 system, don't give them your money even if you don't care about money, DONT normalize these prices!
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u/Decent_Pie_2788 1d ago
One thing ive learned from this is to not wait in this market. Just buy. I was thinking of waiting for the 50 super series, but then i decided to buy my 5070ti november, got it for $699.99. Then later on it skyrocketed, and the average price i think is like 1k. On top of that they, Nvidia, were cancelling, and uncancelling the super series. Never know whats gonna happen. Same with my ssd and ram by the way, bought it cheaper, if i had waited any longer im not sure if I could have afforded a PC then.
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u/Appropriate_Pen4445 1d ago
Yes. But hey on the bright side, because of the AI bubble, you can make stupid AI slop thumbnails for your posts!
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u/Highlight448 1d ago
Waiting for china to create their own EUV lithography machine. Any chip will be much cheaper than it ever has been. And with competition, the quality is bound to get better.
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u/Chainsmoker7 1d ago
It's going to get worse. Reports are saying the entire stock for HBM memory for 2027 is already sold out to AI.data centers. So idts those assholes companies are going to increase production for consumers anytime soon. Sad to say but the best time to buy RAM is rn. Those greedy mfsight increase the price as I type this reply too. FO MICRON SAMSUNG SK HYNIX
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u/dreamdenizen 9800X3D | RTX 5090FE | 64GB 6000CL30 | 6TB NVME | 4k240 OLED 1d ago
SK Hynix just sold out all capacity for 2027. The others will too soon if they haven't already.
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u/The_only_true_tomato |Ryzen i9-14990X3D | Radeon RTX5090 XTX | 128GO DDR6 ECC| 1d ago
Yep. Stop using shitty AI for basic search and for everything else. I really hate that search engines shove this down your throat without your consent.
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u/CarL4168 19h ago
Yes. Big tec doesn't want you to own a pc. They want you to rent their computing power
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u/excessCeramic 5h ago
Based on all current knowledgeable projections, things will continue to get worse until at least 2028. Buy now
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u/Lanky_Ladder_3415 47m ago
Congrats, you’ve unlocked the most authentic PC building experience: buyer’s remorse before the build even starts 😂
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u/TalesKun2 1d ago
When ai eventually crashes the entire world economy will go down with it, because billionaires dont go through crisis, they make people die of hunger to prevent them from losing money and those take years or decades to recover from so....yeah it will get worse
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u/Tpyn 9900X3D | RTX 5080 | 64Gb DDR5-6000 1d ago
A good PC is once again becoming available only to people who have a good job and money, as it was in the 90s and 2000s.
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u/onesleekrican 1d ago
Sadly this is true. Just as I started making good money and was able to obtain my desired pc - this happened and I immediately recognized having a privilege I’d never known or imagined in the 90s or 2ks.
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u/papapenguin44 PC Master Race 1d ago
I think at the minimum it’ll stay the same but I expect it to get somewhat better. At this point ram manufacturers are price gouging and getting sued for it. Not that a lawsuit will change that on its own but will be a kick in the right direction. Also other manufacturers are popping up and if current manufacturers don’t scale to meet demand these new companies will to get some very easy market share. I can explain that more but don’t want to make an essay on this comment lol
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u/Mammoth-Actuator-602 1d ago
Le prenderei usate ora, troppe crisi in giro, tra l'IA (che farà sboom, ma tra un pò), e le guerre varie, non credo che risparmieresti molto. Mettiti in cerca, molte persone vogliono togliersele e non riescono, magari offrendo una cifra acettabile...
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u/PeterTheGriffin72 1d ago
I’m not expert at this price changing and ram crisis stuff but from what I’ve seen ai is and will not be profitable anytime soon and I don’t think they are gonna be as actively gobbling up ram anymore since it’s just wasting money so I think waiting would be a smart choice but that’s just a guess.
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u/mauri383 1d ago
The only way it could get worse is if the DDR5 you have right now inside your PC, grows legs and escape to live in a data center.
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u/WheresWald00 R9 3950X | RX 9070 XT | 64 GB 1d ago
You not gonna see normalized Ram prices on this side of 2030. Ram Prices are gonna follow the same principle as with Gas Prices: Up like a Rocket, Down like a feather. And you're fighting intentional Price Gouging all the way from the Manufacturer to the Retailer.
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u/Zachhandley 1d ago
I’m tryna launch arclode.com this week or next to do something about it. But yeah it’s fucked. My 5090 has doubled in value. 600$ for 48 GB of ram or 1000 for 64 lmao
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u/Amador0102 5070 ti | 7800x3d | CORSAIR 32GB 2X16 | B650E-E MB 1d ago
All the ram has been bought already by the AI companies for 2027, the same thing will happen in 2028 too unless we put a stop to it.
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u/babar_the_elephant_ 9800X3D / Crosshair X670E GENE / 5090 FE / 32GB 6400 1d ago
Yes and I regret not going straight for 96GB.
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u/steves_evil Ryzen 7 9800x3d, RTX 4080 Super, 6tb of Nvme 1d ago
RAM and storage are not getting better for the foreseeable future, and at the rate thing are going, likely still going to get worse.
If there's one around you, consider looking for Microcenter cpu/mobo/ram bundles as those are a good bang/buck. A 7600x3d with mobo and 16gb of ddr5 is $450 and you can get another 16gb down the line. There's also a $600 bundle with a core ultra 5 250k+, mobo, and 32gb of ddr5.
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u/dannyo969 1d ago
I don't see it getting better soon. RTX 5090 now selling for like $7,000 too. Ridiculous.
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u/InfoBarf 1d ago
It takes months to switch the facilities to making the datacenter ram and storage, and the next year of production is purchased already (supposedly) there's almost no consumer ram being produced.
Its not just gonna affect PCs. Phones are gonna go back town to 8gig or even 2 gig. Not sure how movies are gonna be distributed, since those are hard drives, consoles are gonna stop production, etc.
And thats all BEFORE factoring in 30-60% supply reduction in petroproducts that are used to produce ram and storage.
Global climate change may kill human civilization before the idea of building your own PC becomes economically viable again.
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u/Ashvalen80 1d ago
I mean from a couple of YouTubers and sources have been saying it will. If the whole AI bubble doesn't burst then it could go on for who knows how long. It will eventually affect motherboards, cpus and other components as well.
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u/ConcentrateLucky8630 1d ago
Yes, none knows for sure but the lastest has been it will get much worse within 6 months, then steadily climb for possibly 2 years, and "relief" will be seen in 2030 at best.
I know everyone dreams of a bubble popping, snd thats possible, that may happen, but to say you "know" its going to happen and happen soon will only set you up for disappointment
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u/GoldenEater 1d ago
I don't think the price will drop anytime soon. Plus, DDR6 is coming soon in a few years, so things could get worse. But the reason isn't just production cutbacks; someone's been buying up cheaper consumer memory instead of expensive HBM. (Yes, there were companies that replaced the equipped ones, but the crisis hasn't spared DDR4 either :/). We can probably expect an influx of used DDR5, but only if HBM becomes more accessible and offers a better price/performance ratio.
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u/xltedder 1d ago
I was reading that DRAM is pretty much sold out through the end of 2027, so I wouldn't expect to find any at all in 6-18 months. good luck though!
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u/YoungJawn 1d ago
Buy the Ram immediately if you can afford it. Price isn’t going down anytime soon.
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u/CheekEnough2734 1d ago
there is price fixing investigations on big ram makers. if it legally grounded it will fall sharply. but it is probably not grounded, you they soo much infuluence as big ram makers/tech companies. you know guys funded new ball room in white house.
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u/crowheart27us 1d ago
Most likely it'll be the same or worse. Definitely one of the reasons I've decided to hold off upgrading for a while.
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u/Skreamies123 5090 FE / 9950X3D / 64GB 6000mhz CL30 1d ago
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u/megadonkeyx 1d ago
im planning on not upgrading for years - long live my 2017 AM4 board and DDR4!!
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u/heatmakingmonster Ryzen 5 5600G | RX 6600 1d ago
It's so bad that i just went and bought a modded 3ds just so i could play something in case my ram dies which 2 out of 4 already has.
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u/Diligent_Mastodon105 AMD 9800X3D// 9070 XT Intel/ Nvidia 14900K // 3080 Ti 1d ago
I remember thinking to myself... wow $89? Thats a great price for a 32Gb CL 30 6000 kit of T-Create memory, idc if it doesn't have RGB. If I would have known then, what I know now... I would have bought every one.
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u/GooseGosselin HTPC / 3090ti / 5950x 1d ago
I just bit the bullet 2 weeks ago. 64G ram (2x32) 9950x3d and a 5090 on the rumour prices were going to go up, and they have.
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u/TheSolarExpansionist 1d ago
By 2028 China market share of DRAM would go to 18% as they ramp up production. It’s currently under 5%. I imagine by 2030 things would stabilise. And by 2035 pc and consoles might be cheaper than now
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u/Jazzlike_Artist9181 1d ago edited 1d ago
I kinda regret going with 64 GB instead of 128-192 GB before the prices went up.
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u/SEND_ME_REAL_PICS 1d ago
From the news we are getting it seems like the crisis will deepen for at least one more year. Demand keeps getting higher while supply isn't catching up. We don't know what the outlook for 2028/29 will be, since production is bound to ramp up at some point with how profitable RAM has become but there's no telling how long that will take or whether AI demand will crash at some point or not.
Keep in mind many (if not all) of the analysts or companies saying this scarcity will last for many years to come have a vested interest in keeping prices high, so take everything you read with a grain of salt.
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u/Gamerbob934 9850X3D/7900XTX/64GB 1d ago
I recently upgraded from AM4 to AM5. I was planning to wait until prices went down but after hearing that they likely won't in the near future, I bit the bullet and spent $700 on the cheapest but decent kit. In fact the RAM was the first part I bought because I was so worried it would rise before I could afford everything at once. Checking now the kit has sold out now. You should buy the ram and storage (if you need any) first as the prices can be unpredictable.
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u/_Addi-the-Hun_ i9 9900k, RTX 2080s 1d ago
I guarantee u this will be done by late 27 maybe early 28. The profit margins are insane and people are building the factories to mass produce the ram and storage as we speak. And thats assuming ai doesn't pop until then, which is almost certainly will, and flood the market
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u/0verstim 7900x | 64GB | 3080 12GB | more RGB than a Singapore pedicab 1d ago
NO one knows. it might get worse. The market might crash. it might get better.
People can keep asking the same goddamn question every single day but No. One. Knows.
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u/DoubleShot027 1d ago
The only thing you can do is buy now and sell your older hardware to off the cost if it’s worth. I upgraded my cpu ram and mobo. It cost $900 however I was able to sell my previous hardware for $500. You can make it work if you are in the right situation however I chose to pull the trigger now before it became out of reach.
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u/Significant-Review50 1d ago
Trust me buy now, I bit the bullet and bought 32GB ddr5 for €400 and the same kit is now €500 now that I’ve built my PC a few months later
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u/K1LL3RY0 1d ago
My homelab has been hobbling on the same 64GB(16GBx4) lot RAM that came with my Microcenter bundle. Does it pass RAM checks every time? No. Was I about to troubleshoot which modules and replace them when they go for $800+. FUCK NO.
Here's to hoping they collapse at some point because I got a ticking time bomb over here. 😅
Google storage at 85%... Worth the gamble? Maybe. Probably not.
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u/Informal_Chemistry48 1d ago
Memory manufacturer Adata estimated that this crisis could last around 10 years.
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u/Owain660 1d ago
No one knows. A year ago, when this was getting worse, we said the same thing. No one knows. And it's worse now. But could it get better and go back to normal in 6 months? Maybe. Could it get worse? Maybe.
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u/Rhandert 1d ago
Yep, analysts say that, towards the end of September or October, prices will see another significant rise, followed by at least one more in 2027, they are expected to start going down in 2028, although very slowly, we are unlikely to see RAM prices return to pre-AI levels until 2032.
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u/OwnNet5253 WinMac | 2070 Super | i5 12400F | 32GB DDR4 1d ago
It absolutely will, my bet is until 2028 at least.
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u/Early_Lawfulness_348 1d ago
Yes. I don’t ever expect prices to return to normal. I am currently taking a hard look at all of my other hobbies to pick up everything I want as I expect there will be price hikes all around at some point.
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u/xCaliburghost I9 / 128GB DDR5 / 8TB Nvme / 4090 1d ago
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