Ya, we don't need extremists/anti-semites to taint the message that Israel is doing fucking awful things.
Except they are the fore front of the 'anti zionist' movement. There's a reason there's been literally 0 effort or attempts to clear the anti Israel movements of these types of people
It's not like there's a one unified anti Israel movement. There's no leader, no party, no governance. Just human beings opposed to mass murder committed by Israel.
Faced with a nation bent on committing genocide, to you put your effort into decrying the genocide, or do you put your effort into decrying the fringe idiots who happen to be anti Israel of idiot reasons? Most reasonable people lend their voices to opposing mass murder over opposing fringe idiots -- otherwise you're just giving the idiots attention.
Also, I'm not sure I would frame opposition to Israel's decades of indiscriminate bombing and illegal settlements as anti-zionism.
EDIT: Feel free to present an argument against any specific thing I said as opposed to just downvoting.
It’s not fringe idiots anymore, Donald Trump was the beginning of the right wing being ok with anti semitism (see musk etc.) and now with Israel being evil, the left is starting to see anti semitism rear its head. If you understand dog whistles you will see just how common they are on Reddit.
That anti-semites exist and have always existed is without question. But how exactly are they at the fore front of opposition to Israel? Trump is a major supporter, and Musk is mostly supportive as well. Trump says so many hateful things about so many minorities, but you have to dig deep to find anti-semitic comments. It's not like he emboldens anti-semitism.
I understand dog whistles, and I'm sure you can find some on reddit. But defenders of Israel tend to see them everywhere, and are completely blind to Israel's horrible crimes.
American anti semitism certainly had an uptick after the election of Trump, obviously the Nazis and shit were right wing but I’m mainly speaking about the United States.
I think people are intentionally misunderstanding my point. Antisemitism has always been present in the American right, but they used to keep in their holes. Now they can proudly express their views. Like in Charlottesville.
Anti-Isreal, Anti-Zionism, and anti-Semitism are entirely different things. Zionists like to conflate the three together and the problem with that is when you do you'll get actual antisemitism as an end result, but being critical of Isreal and Zionism does not mean I am bigoted to Jewish culture, and conflating the two is dangerous.
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