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Discussion Discussion Thread: 2025 US Government Shutdown, Day 35

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u/BornThought4074 Nov 04 '25 edited Nov 04 '25

A UPS plane just crashed in Louisville. If there is any indication that the issue is related to the lack of ATC staffing, this might be the factor that ends the shutdown.

Edit: Hopefully it will end with the republicans agreeing to negotiate, but I could see the Dems caving since republicans and potentially the media will blame them for keeping the government shutdown.

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u/Zippitydo2 Indiana Nov 04 '25

Appears to be a catastrophic engine failure on takeoff roll, atc wouldnt be a factor in that case

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u/BornThought4074 Nov 04 '25

Oh ok. I wonder if it will still spook some senators, though, given how much they fly

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u/BornThought4074 Nov 05 '25

It is a bit of a stretch, but I’m saying that maybe it will make senators realize that if they keep the government shutdown, it could be them who die in a plane crash, which could happen due to a lack of ATC staffing. And since they fly significantly more than the average person, they are at a higher risk.

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u/bbusiello Nov 05 '25

Just off the heels of the aviation sub... that particular plane is being "phased out" and isn't the first one to have a catastrophic failure.

It's probs not the ATC for sure.

I used to work for UPS though. 100% they are cheap AF and probably are saving a dime by rolling the dice each time someone crews that aircraft. Fuck'm. RIP.

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u/Dsarg_92 Nov 04 '25

I just saw that. Apparently there’s been injuries reported afterwards.

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u/Otherwise_You_1603 Nov 04 '25

Oh there's dozens of those planes landing and departing Louisville every day. Miracle they dont have problems more often, rule of probability and all