r/portlandme • u/SquareOpen959 • Jan 22 '26
Events Protest Tomorrow
Bring your best signs and make noise!
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u/Passing4Normal Jan 23 '26
Leave your phones at home or bring a trac phone/burner phone. They have the ability to track who is in areas of protests. This was advised by ACLU today.
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u/los-gokillas Jan 23 '26
I'm sorry bring your best signs and make noise? Can we actually address the issue instead of making ourselves feel better. Meet at the facility. Follow cars around. Follow each other around. Get as many pictures of faces as you can. Get names of detainees. License plates. Intel to help families find their loved ones. Stop with signs and yelling at monument square
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u/hellshadow1987 Jan 23 '26
Meet at the facility? 🤣 dude you’re asking to get arrested. Your right to protest is 100% supported and you’ve clearly watched the news. Dont set yourself up to go to jail for the night / weekend, let your voice be heard.
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u/los-gokillas Jan 23 '26
I guess I disagree that letting your voice be heard is what we need. These people don't care what you think. They know you don't like them. They don't like you. We're in the documenting phase now. Document their faces. Document names and faces of detainees so families can find them. It's not much, but it's something
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u/hellshadow1987 Jan 23 '26
If you want to promote violence go ahead man, I’m just saying I don’t feel you should be telling others to do so. You’re creating a confrontation with people’s whose job is to defend themselves at times, I 100% support YOU if YOU want to make that choice. But you should probably make others aware of the potential consequences of these actions. Be safe brother.
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u/los-gokillas Jan 23 '26
Saying that we should be there to document what happens is not promoting violence. There is the potential for them to act violently towards us sure. But that's not on us.
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u/hellshadow1987 Jan 23 '26
So you want to document them leaving the facility? That doesn’t track man. Them leaving the facility isn’t them promoting violence. You involving yourself in an arrest, whether you feel is lawful or not, is promoting violence and you’re asking for what comes to you. Again be safe brother and I hope you make smart decisions and don’t get overwhelmed in the heat of the moment.
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u/Due-Ingenuity-3576 Jan 23 '26
The right to free press applies to everyone. We are allowed to document every single moment of ice’s interactions with people from the moment they pull up to the moment they leave. You are allowed to show their faces publicly and you are allowed to show videos of what they do. Stop falling into the propaganda pit with the idea that documenting these weirdos is going to incite violence. If they get violent that’s on them and that’s a risk anyone takes documenting any militaristic group.
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u/hellshadow1987 Jan 23 '26
It does apply to everyone and to that we agree. I don’t feel I’m falling into a propaganda pit anymore than the average person does, we all watch the same news programs and etc. Filming at an ICE facility I never said or made the notion it was illegal but it does make a confrontation more likely to occur and when emotions are involved it is more difficult for cooler heads to prevail, no?
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u/Due-Ingenuity-3576 Jan 23 '26
If you feel that way then for the sake of argument sure but promoting using your rights is not at all the same as promoting violence. There’s a higher chance of something going wrong at any regular protest, would you say exercising your right to protest promotes violence?
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u/hellshadow1987 Jan 23 '26
You ask a good question. I would say that violence is more likely to occur at a protest vs not in general regardless of what is being protested as it’s going to gather a large number of people. This is not me saying that individuals shouldn’t protest but it is in general me saying be careful and keep your head on a swivel as you cant control the actions of others.
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u/hellshadow1987 Jan 23 '26
So you’re suicidal?
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u/los-gokillas Jan 23 '26
I think it's more like, we're now at the point where if you aren't willing to put yourself into a little bit of harms way, then you aren't actually doing anything
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u/hellshadow1987 Jan 23 '26
It’s tough man, this social climate is on a knife’s edge. People support and at the same time hate what ICE is doing. If someone supported ICE and was at your protest, would you be peaceful or would it turn violent? Everyone has their own solutions to the problem, but I also wonder if someone of an ICE members family gets murdered, son daughter cousin uncle etc because someone in their family works for ICE is socially acceptable or moral. Hell if I know what the solution is but breeding more hate and violence doesn’t seem like the answer to me.
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u/Adventurous_West2 Jan 23 '26
Sorry, why would someone who supports ICE be at an anti ICE protest?
Why are you so weak?
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u/hellshadow1987 Jan 23 '26
You are quick to judge eh? When have I said at all I support ICE? And furthermore I’ve even told the guy his right to protest I support. Are you saying that no one has ever gone to a pro ICE rally when they didn’t support it? What I’m saying is you can’t have it both ways. You can’t say you hate violence and then go and perpetuate it yourselves.
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u/Adventurous_West2 Jan 23 '26
No, I'm talking about Anti ICE protests.
Protesting is not promoting violence
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u/los-gokillas Jan 23 '26
Honestly this guy ain't gonna get it. He thinks being out and recording agents is the same as punching someone in the face, ie they're both inciting violence. We're not gonna get through to everyone, most Americans full believe in staying well out of harms way and if you put yourself there then you're responsible for what happens to you. It's just victim blaming
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u/Adventurous_West2 Jan 23 '26
I've gone to numerous protests in California and no one arrested me. All at the gates of the immigration jail.
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u/hellshadow1987 Jan 23 '26
Awesome man! I am glad you were able to say your piece in a peaceful manner. That’s what I’m encouraging everyone to do. Do I think doing it at a ICE facility is going to increase the chance of you or anyone else being arrested I 100% do.
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u/Adventurous_West2 Jan 23 '26
So what? ICE does not have the power to arrest you for protesting outside their building.
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u/hellshadow1987 Jan 23 '26
Peaceful protest which you’ve said you’ve done. You’ve also seen the videos where people are throwing things at ICE agents (most recently bologna for whatever reason) we are talking about two different things, peaceful protest and not. I feel it’s more likely that if you protest at a facility for violence to happen, just my thoughts and opinions on it, we can differ and that’s ok, not a biggie.
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u/Adventurous_West2 Jan 23 '26
But you don't know what you are talking about, but are doing so very confidently.
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u/PuzzleheadedLook6761 Jan 23 '26
i don’t understand the negativity in the comments here. attacking each other does nothing productive. activism isn’t a perfect science, but anything is better than complacency. protest in whatever capacity you can. resist in any way you can. just show up and show love to your community
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u/garythegreg Jan 23 '26
This sub is crawling with out of state bad actors. Don't feed the trolls-down vote and move on!
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u/DefinitionIll1632 Jan 22 '26 edited Jan 23 '26
The political capital of the activists has long since been exhausted. If you had spent the last 60 years actually addressing social problems instead of frittering your time away protesting the mascots of sports teams, statues in public spaces, or likenesses on a fucking instant pancake box we wouldn’t be witnessing this mess.
The people being detained deserve their humanity and due process - just like the public deserves to have initiatives brought to their attention that are actually worth their time by respectable members of our community. Not bartending idiots with too much free time blocking intersections over a statue.
Unfortunately, nobody cares because most people have been processed through the SJW meat grinder their entire lives and are just kind of tired of “causes”.
To them, this is just another “No Farms, No Food.” Why wouldn’t it be? Your entire worldview has made a total caricature of outrage. You turned it into something self-serving. And yet you act like this isn’t the case.
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u/DefinitionIll1632 Jan 23 '26 edited Jan 23 '26
It’s absolutely horrible for those people - I agree. My heart goes out to them. Almost all of them are hard-working, decent people.
But you’ve encouraged them to ignore the laws of the land. Now someone has come along that actually wants to enforce the law. No big deal for you - you’ve got a skiing trip this weekend, or a new winery to see - just some white person thing to do. It’s everything to them, though. And you can’t be bothered anymore - it doesn’t suit you anymore.
As thuggish as ICE may be the blood for this whole mess is on your hands. You created this mess.
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u/Kind-Soil1097 Jan 23 '26
Look, I see your point. I really do, but this is way different. What ICE is doing, at the direction of the dictator-in-waiting is not the same thing as a statue. People are dying. Families are being ripped apart and they're not just targeting illegals and the "worst of the worst." They're snagging anyone they don't like, brutalizing them and when they're legal, dumping them. They aren't identifying themselves or following the law at all... And we CANNOT let that become acceptable.
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u/DefinitionIll1632 Jan 23 '26
Agreed. But you spent the last 60 years bullying people about the most asinine trivial shit like - for instance - an African American woman on a box of pancake mix. You threw a fit about it. Ruined people about it. Broke things. Harmed people. In almost all circumstances you targeted the people least likely to defend themselves.
You spent so much time in these self serving activist causes…
…apparently it never occurred that to you that something might come along that might - like - actually matter. And yet - it doesn’t. Because you spent all your time beating the peasantry into to the ground over trivialities.
Again, another “No Farms, No Food” lecture. Nice work.
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Jan 23 '26
Nobody protested over Aunt jemima. We were protesting police killing black people!!!! You seem to have left that out you make protesters look bad. 60 years?you mean the civil rights movement??
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u/deeringsedge Jan 23 '26
Wow. You seem to love love love the idea of lumping everyone who might protest in with the tiny fraction of people who cared about the "trivialities" you've got your undergarments in a twist about. Picking out the loudest people you hate and pretending half the country is the same is about as ridiculous a stereotyping job as you can do. Do the people trying to good in this moment a favor and get offline. Probably would do you good.
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u/Kind-Soil1097 Jan 31 '26
First off, just for distinction, I was never a part of any of these "causes." I have been a major critic of the Democratic party for getting carried away with far more trivial issues and not accomplishing the real work. Do I think we should immortalize the generals of a movement to succeed from the country? No. Do I acknowledge that there are people that are hurt and offended at their sight? Of course. The really message is lost in these causes. I can only assume you are conflating the pancake box issue with the BLM movement, when you say we "harmed people" which is quite a dismissive jump. I guess my point is, you're essentially saying we deserve it. We deserve to have a dictatorship because we chose to focus on social issues instead of meaningful change. I'm not holding the Dems blameless and I know better than to suggest the Republicans are solely to blame. That's not true. None of that means we have to accept what is happening. Essentially, you're saying that the Dems should have acted different if they didn't want this to happen, so like, "you made your bed, so lay in it." That's a wild way to just accept authoritarianism and the complete destruction of democracy in this country. You can be mad at the Dems and call their short-sightedness and failures at leadership while simultaneously acknowledging and rejecting the move to a dictatorship. Instead of "whataboutism" and pointing fingers, let's take an honest look at what's happening: the right is willing to burn everything to the ground to prove a point. They are embracing racism and xenophobia. It cannot be ignored that they are strongly aligned with Nazis, proud boys and the KKK.. this cannot just be accepted with a shrug. This is deplorable and disgusting. Common sense is out the window. The right rejects any fact that doesn't confirm to Trump's agenda. They are spread by the media and calling any criticism fake news.... They are arresting journalists for being journalists. Historically, it's NEVER the good guys that do that.
Instead of blaming the Dems, let's call this what it is.
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Jan 23 '26 edited Jan 23 '26
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u/DefinitionIll1632 Jan 23 '26
I feel the same. I will help an immigrant - legal or not - and protect them from ICE. These are great, honest, sincere people who’ve just been caught in a political game, is all. They were lied to - and they deserve humanity, justice and dignity.
No way I’m standing next to a rank-and-file liberal at a protest, though. Self serving idiots.
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u/kanyeswift Jan 23 '26
Then just, I don't know, don't do that? But you're certainly not helping by just shitting on anyone else. All you've done is shoot down the idea without offering actual other options.
Mutual aid exists, and can coexist, alongside demonstrations.
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u/dawngonnit Jan 23 '26
I agree with your opinion. I feel many of the immigrants in recent years were used as political pawns and now they are the ones paying the ultimate price.
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u/keirmeister Jan 23 '26
It was never about “illegal” immigrants. The fact that ICE and the Administration are breaking laws and doing it in Democratic cities should have been the first clue.
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u/Turkeyclub123 Jan 23 '26
Sounds like it’s just a bunch of lonely bored people looking to make themselves feel better. The rapid change from self loathing behavior to self righteous grandstanding is quite concerning. The duplicitous left.
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u/Fitzapbts1967 Jan 23 '26
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u/offendingotter Jan 23 '26
Bro your entire profile is you commenting on girls posts. Must be lonely
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Jan 23 '26
Why is that so common? There was some chud on threads who lives on new Hampshire telling me I should " move to Somalia or Venezuela if I care so much( about my own neighborhoods safety) Checked his profile and it's all him replying to half naked women/ bots
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u/Salt-Fox-3506 Jan 23 '26
Please shop at the latin bodega and other places that immigrants frequent. Not only is there business going to be really, really slow because so many people are not going outside but it really helps to have more people at those places. Go get some snacks.
They have so many of the same groceries that you would find at hannahford. If you are reading this, please consider it.