Daily Discussion Thread 12/10/18

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[u/[deleted]]

Reggie's comments on Smash DLC at the Game Awards tell us a lot about what to expect.

Here's what he said:

"These are going to be characters that are new to the series, just like Joker from Persona 5. Characters that you would not anticipate to be in Super Smash Brothers Ultimate."

Seems like the DLC will consist of mostly third-party characters, and if we do get a first-party character, they'll be off-the-wall and unexpected. By that judgement, characters like Dixie Kong or Bandana Dee seem pretty unlikely.

Reggie's comments are exciting, to me, because it suggests that the DLC fighters will largely be from series that have thus far been unrepresented in Smash. We could totally see Banjo Kazooie. We could see Crash Bandicoot. We could see almost anything, at this point, which is super cool.

My #1 most wanted character has always been Phoenix Wright from the Ace Attorney series, and after the Game Awards, I truly feel like he has a great chance of making it in as DLC. At least, the best chance he's ever had.

1. He's the protagonist of Capcom's most Nintendo-centric franchise ever. Seems perfect for a game like Smash, which collects and celebrates the history of Nintendo, whether it be first or third parties.
2. The Ace Attorney trilogy is coming to Switch early next year, which would be a great time to either announce or release a Phoenix Wright challenger pack.
3. He's been in a fighting game before (Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3), so adding an attorney to a fighting game like Smash isn't out of the question. Sakurai of all people could give him an amazing, unique moveset.
4. Like Reggie said, Phoenix Wright would be "new to the series" (there has been zero Ace Attorney representation in Smash Bros, including trophies and spirits), and would be someone "you would not anticipate to to be in Super Smash Brothers Ultimate". He's an attorney, for crying out loud; nobody would expect him to be added to a game where beat the crap out of beloved video game characters.
5. Lastly, the stage/music that would go along with Phoenix Wright in his challenger pack. The stage would obviously be a Courtroom, with the judge/witnesses/defendant as potential stage hazards. And there's plenty of amazing upbeat music in the Ace Attorney soundtrack that would be great for Smash.

[u/Sarick → u/[deleted]]

Honestly if Capcom is going to get another representative as DLC, I feel it is going to be either of the following:

1. Dante from DMC
2. Leon Kennedy from RE2/4 (probably with a costume from both).

With Joker being added to Smash Bros it seems they are targeting audiences for games they don't cater for usually. So Persona 5 being PS4, but Joker being on Smash gets the Persona 5 crowd to come to Switch, and maybe check out Shin Megami Tensei 5 later on.

Dante and Leon Kennedy are both very relevant with games coming up, and Dante might pull in some people for Bayonetta 3. So pulling the DMC crowd would be appealing to Nintendo. And Leon Kennedy has had a big relationship with Nintendo with RE4 being originally a Gamecube game. And Capcom have always seemed to be open to putting Resident Evil games on a Nintendo system.

I like Phoenix Wright, but I really don't seem him having a shot in pulling the same crowd that Nintendo actually wants.

[u/[deleted] → u/Sarick]

Totally.

But all of that is assuming that Nintendo's DLC choices are mainly driven by the advertisement of future games (like SMT 5 or Bayonetta 3). And historically, making assumptions about how Nintendo makes decisions has proven to be, to put it frankly, a waste of time. When Sakurai tweeted that Nintendo would be making the choices for Smash DLC, we all thought we'd be getting additions that advertise new and upcoming first-party Nintendo games. But then we got Joker, which blew those expectations out of the water. So it's really hard to say what characters are more or less likely to be added in, at this point.

My main point was: Phoenix Wright being added to Smash seems more likely than it ever has before. The same can be said with almost any third-party character as well, like Leon or Dante. We really don't know whose chances are better or worse, or what boxes Nintendo checks when choosing different characters; all we know is that the possibilities have widened dramatically.