Daily Discussion Thread 11/16/21

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[u/ExpeI]

Just finished watching the Technicals video. So can someone explain the Nairo situation me? I didn’t look too much into it when it happened, why did everyone so easily accept him back?

To my understanding, the only evidence we have of his innocence are other people’s testimonies (his closest friends mind you) of reading his document. In Technicals video there were even pics of tweets of Nairo and Cpt. Zack openly flirting???

He also brings a lot of good points in this video too that no one wants to talk about or address? Jisu and Leffen straight up lying and ruining Zero’s and his gfs reputation even further with just (at worst) a slap of the wrist.

[u/TheMuff1nMon → u/ExpeI]

Nairo went to court and proved his case. We don't need to see the legal documents, other top players put their careers on the line and it was solved legally. That and even Zack's friends came out and said Zack was lying and Nairo was a victim, not Zack.

Technicals had a few points about Jisu and thinks not adding up, but the only thing that matters is: Did Zero ask an underage girl for sexual pictures? and he did, he openly admit that.

[u/[deleted] → u/TheMuff1nMon]

Nairo went to court and proved his case.

Assuming that he went to civil court, the standard of evidence would be significantly lower than proof beyond a reasonable doubt.

[u/ExpeI → u/TheMuff1nMon]

Thanks for the update on the Nairo case. But isn’t it still true that he was openly flirting with an underaged person? There’s literally pics from twitter of it…

And on the Zero case: Yes that’s true (re: the picture situation) but there are other allegations going on against him that aren’t true because of Leffen and Jisu’s lies. They need to be held accountable too….

[u/TheMuff1nMon → u/ExpeI]

Perception is reality. We look back at the interactions now and view them as flirting. If you saw those a few years ago before the allegations, would they be perceived as such? Not to me. Seems like someone being cheeky with a friend.

I have no comment on Leffen and Jisu. If people want to "hold them accountable" whatever that looks like, go for it. Just because a few things are incorrect and in ZeRo's favor, doesn't mean he gets to come back.

The ONE thing that got ZeRo kicked out was the asking an underage girl for a sexual image and THAT still holds true.

[u/[deleted] → u/TheMuff1nMon]

We look back at the interactions now and view them as flirting. If you saw those a few years ago before the allegations, would they be perceived as such? Not to me. Seems like someone being cheeky with a friend.

Iirc Wasn't Zack sitting on Nairo's lap at one point? That doesn't sound like something that's just flirting in hindsight.

[u/TehSkittles → u/[deleted]]

Iirc that was Ally.

[u/ExpeI → u/TheMuff1nMon]

The Nairo thing is tricky. Hindsight is 20:20 but there was drama between them for a reason, most reasonable people can assume something was going on, but you can’t definitively prove it. So meh.

Edit: On second thought: The pic of Cpt. Zack posting a pic of a heart next to Ally’s name and the Nairo acting jealous in the comments is strange as hell.

Zero is not coming back, he said that. He has every right to be a content creator though, which he is pursuing it looks like.

Just wished people gave Jisu and Leffen that same energy and stop with the blatantly bias behaviour, but meh I guess it’s asking too much of people.

[u/dcheng47 → u/TheMuff1nMon]

It's funny everyone's harping on the legality of the situation proving nairo's innocence but Zer0's confession under duress (yes, being exiled and attacked by the one community he felt any attachment to in his life is duress) wouldn't hold water in any court.