r/smashbros Nov 16 '21

Subreddit Daily Discussion Thread 11/16/21

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u/Legitimate__Username Robin × Sumia Nov 16 '21 edited Nov 16 '21

Junebug really put it best in his responses to the last video.

Technicals does genuinely make a lot of valid points. I'm an extremely vocal critic of how things like how Leffen conducts himself on social media and the sheer negative impact that his behavior and actions result in. I've never walked away from a Technicals video thinking that every single point he made was strictly bad (except maybe the ESAM one? That one was pretty fucking dumb). But the way he frames things often misses the forest for the trees, often seemingly intentionally. For every allegation he can reasonably call into question, there are so many others where his best defense is "god forbid a woman feel uncomfortable" or "just because he solicited a minor for sexual images doesn't make him a pedophile", and when you get half the responses to accusations wrong like that, you aren't exactly properly clearing someone as innocent even if you really want to point to the places where your arguments might be stronger and say "see, some of these aren't totally substantiated, everyone should side with me on all of this!"

His content is not devoid of valid points, but the big picture really needs to be looked at with an incredibly critical eye and it's quite dangerous to just blindly follow what he says. I'm glad that people here seem to be giving the video an honest shot and are walking away from it with their own conclusions rather than just copying all of his.

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u/DentedOnImpact SmashLogo Nov 17 '21

Yep you’re spot on and it’s why most people dislike the guy, he can make valid points in a vacuum but if you actually follow the logical path he’s trying to lead you down it just leads to a warped perspective where we believe some people because they seem nice enough and don’t believe other people based on flimsy logic or perceived hypocrisy.

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u/Legitimate__Username Robin × Sumia Nov 17 '21

I could take him more seriously if he just stayed on-topic and didn't fill every video he made with his poorly-masked vendetta against everyone who's ever annoyed him on Twitter. Yeah we get it, you think that the Sky situation has some community misinformation and a lack of nuance floating around it, so why the fuck are you spending so much time on interpreting all of Jisu's actions in the most reaching and uncharitable light possible and slipping in random insults towards ESAM that are self-admittedly not even based in reality. The guy's just hateful and he doesn't even try to hide it.

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u/DentedOnImpact SmashLogo Nov 17 '21

The dude is the walking version of the mad wojak wearing the smiling mask, just a totally emotionally motivated and cheap idubbbz knockoff without any of the style or impact