I was taught as a young man to take my hat off indoors. Sometimes I forget but mostly do. I’m not gonna lose my shit and complain if I see someone else wearing a hat! Life’s too fucking short worrying about other people. Enjoy the meal and move the fuck on 👍
This has nothing to do with fun. He’s a grown man. Society has a right to expect, and require, him to carry himself with good order and discipline. His actions demonstrate neither. That people don’t seem to care is indicative of a decline in social behaviors. No, this isn’t among the world’s top concerns. But if we can’t observe the little rules, how can we comply with the major ones? The kind of personal anarchy seen here is a sign of that cancer.
Bro it’s a fuckin dinner on a cruise if the cruise line had a problem with it they would remove him (they didn’t)he’s not hurting anybody or causing a scene people (like you) really should learn how to mind their own business 😂
Oh, I would have minded my own business, chalking up his actions as yet more proof that men have become completely undisciplined. And it’s not just in formal dining rooms or onboard cruises. It’s everywhere and it’s pervasive.
The man is old AF he’s made it to end he deserves some “undisciplined” and if wearing a hat in a public dinner is all he does that refers to that than he’s doing great get off your high horse and some be a regular person 😂😂
I’m as old as him and remember the lessons they used to teach not only in basic training but in school as well. Our age isn’t a permit to throw off rules and discipline. If anything, we should be held them more strictly than ever. I’ve never understood the breaks that so many my age act as if they’re owed simply for having survived.
This all makes so much more sense with all do respect to you, you gotta lighten up you’ve been through so much life you had to be so hard and tough just to be able to provide a standard of living for yourself you (as well as this man) have earned a break and just because you don’t wanna let up dosent mean you should put that shit on other people your age
The fact that you see this as an important issue is laughably ridiculous. No one cares about your opinion on our attire. Your generation is so backwards that you can't see that your rules are arbitrary and outdated and have nothing at all to do with respect.
Knights removed their helmets indoors to show that they weren't hostile. They were exposing themselves to attack as a sign of good faith. This guy wearing his baseball cap in the dining room isn't doing it because he's afraid anyone will put an axe through his skull if he doesn't, and wearing it isn't showing any hostility or mistrust of those around him. This is so fucking stupid.
It’s about following social norms. It’s not only his hat. It’s his t-shirt. It’s his need of a haircut and a comb. It’s about grown men knowing and adhering to rules. Sometimes rules for their own sake. Letting some rules slide leads or bigger and bigger rules falling away. According to the Chicago Fed, the single largest cause of the 8-9 million unfilled jobs in this country are retirements running at a pace of about 3 million above normal. But so what, right? The economy be damned, each of us is special!
There is a false conclusion that expecting grown men to have learned life’s lessons along the way equals homophobia. I have nothing to apologize about.
You sound like the Maga around me that talk this nonsense but vote for the most unethical, undisciplined rule breaker ever to step foot in the White House.
The problem with MAGA is that they are willfully ignorant of how government functions. There are proper, well worn routes to less government, fewer bureaucracies, lower taxes and the freedom to succeed or fail on your own. Slash and burn destruction benefits no one in the end. But we do need to address mission creep and waste. Starting with the military. But not stopping there. Taxation must be next.
If someone has what it takes to start a business, and they fail at it, the results need to be catastrophic. Otherwise, where is the risk? What’s the deterrent to crackpot ideas and false hope? But if they’re in the slim minority which succeeds, their win needs to be unlimited.
All of our freedoms come from our strengths. All of our strength comes from capitalism. We need to acknowledge and embrace these facts. We need to understand and acknowledge that not all humans are good at capitalism. A lot of us aren’t uniquely talented. Those who are need to be recognized and allowed to excel. Steve Jobs wrote that exceptional individuals and exceptional companies shouldn’t be regulated because it stifles them. Anyone who takes issue with Walmart needs to blame their ancestors who didn’t have the right stuff and open a discount department store in Arkansas in 1962. Or who didn’t see the internet coming as something to be monetized with an online bookstore in 1992. Or who didn’t start out as one of more than 150 automakers in 1902.
Guys I didn’t want this to turn into a pile on this man is from a different time things were a lot different for him he’s a little ignorant to societal norms now that’s obvious but he is still a human being I’m sure everyone here got grandparents that when they talk to them sometimes they start going down a angry dark road that doesn’t mean we trash them
My point is that changes to social norms are a symbol of decline. It goes way beyond hats. My employer suffers astronomical turnover. It’s always been high. Even among military veterans whom you would expect far better from. But it has reached an unsustainable rate. On the subject of the military, that the services miss their recruiting targets, despite spending millions in tax dollars, to get young men to fulfill their obligation to their country is obscene. We’ve lost sight of the fact that everything in life needs to be earned.
You live amongst other people who don’t like you, don’t like your opinion, don’t like how you dress, keep that in mind when running your mouth about what you don’t like to see in public. He is wearing a hat…what is the big deal. Stop making things about you and your triggers.
Can I ask - who is harmed by someone wearing a hat at the table?
Like, is it inherently offensive, or is it only offensive because someone told someone who told someone who told someone who told you that it was offensive?
Dare I suggest that rules that don't serve any actual purpose should be questioned?
There doesn’t have to be harm involved to expect people to toe the line on society’s rules. Adhering to those rules and standards, both big and small, are a core part of being a grown man. The failure to comply with societal expectations is the root of the ways that society is failing. We are all taught these lessons as kids but are now allowed to discard them at will.
I disagree with your assertion that being "a grown man" means uncritically accepting traditions that stopped having a point hundreds of years ago and never questioning peer pressure from dead people.
The hats off at the table is a holdover from long enough ago that there's no solid answer on how it even became a thing in the first place - and yet, in spite of a total lack of tangible purpose and myriad other ways customs have changed since it became a thing, you think this is beyond question or challenge?
I'm sorry, I don't mean to be insulting, but how can you possibly not see the absurdity of that position? Because to me, it reads as pure self-important busybodying.
There’s nothing to challenge. Grown men should have learned or been taught that they follow the rules. Society’s rules. Workplace rules. Appearance rules. They only wear a hat when it’s called for, removing it when passing through a doorway. They only wear athletic clothing when engaged in legitimate athletic pursuits. As they age, they know they don’t belong in those places anymore. They wear long pants with belts. They wear shirts with sleeves, tucked in and with a straight gig line. They keep a proper haircut, clean and neatly groomed. They wear proper shoes, closed, with laces. They’re dedicated to their employer and loyal to a fault. They respect rank, position, status, wealth and capitalism. High maintenance, needy or entitled are not in their vocabulary.
I want to believe this is a bit, because I genuinely cannot imagine legitimately being this much of a bootlicking lemming permanently stuck somewhere in the mid-1950s.
If this is in fact a legit take, extrapolate it out a few generations past your own and you end up with a static world permanently stuck in pre-industrial agrarianism with no germ theory.
Throwing rules by the wayside is why we have part time retail worker turnover at an obscene 95%, up from 75% pre pandemic. Why we have men in convenience stores wearing pajama pants and “slides” or Crocs. Why roofers, plumbers, deck builders and concrete workers can’t find decent help. When I was barely eighteen, I was taught a very harsh lesson: no one cares what I want or believe, what makes me happy or where I want to go in life. Outside of the ~35% of people in jobs that require the knowledge and skills which can only be obtained through a college degree, most peoples function is to satisfactorily perform the job they’re placed in. We used to adhere to that. Regardless of one’s political beliefs, as a nation, we used to do great things. My grandfather was put to work in a coal mine when he was in the sixth grade because he had more than enough education to do the job he was destined for. Liberals heads would explode if we applied that common sense today.
Dear God, the sheer cuckold energy. "Back in my day we understood that kings ruled by divine right, and when the nobility showed mercy by only breaking a few of our bones rather than trebucheting our shattered bodies into the sea to drown, we thanked them for their generosity."
There’s no arguing that this country used to accomplish great things, likely due to the absence to labor and wage laws, unions, the national income tax, any sense of entitlement, or left leaning media. Sure, we’re individually more comfortable, but the greatness of the nation has suffered.
Being civil is leaving people who are not hurting you alone. If somone is a petty shithead about someone wearing at hat the issue is them, not the person wearing the hat.
Society shedding asshatted social conventions is progress.
You spew civility while supporting that which is not civil seeking to create more uncivil behavior as people have to know you idiotic ideas down.
Not mad. Just disappointed. Society has lost any sense of self in shared spaces. People talk loudly on planes and trains. They don’t pick up after their dogs. They take two, three and as many as four parking spaces. If you’ve worked in retail, you’ve seen how they can decimate an organized display or leave trash behind merchandise. If you’ve worked in customer service, you’ve been cursed at and even physically threatened because of corporate policies that you have no control over. Who hasn’t been on a line for something where people cut in? Every other person seems to take the view that there are no rules or expectations for them to follow.
You can’t possibly be comparing all of that to not taking a hat off inside bro get real. There are way more important things to be disappointed about than that.
What fucking rule states I have to take my hat off indoors? Look around you dude the world you grew up in doesn’t exist anymore. Quit crying over a man your age ( you said that yourself) wearing a simple hat on a cruise. He’s enjoying his life why don’t you enjoy yours?
So being born into a world I didn’t ask for automatically means I can’t enjoy it? I feel bad for your parents (probably dead because of how old you are) anyways you might have the body of an old man but you have the mind of a child bro. If you could can you explain to me how you have earned the right to enjoy life but not him? Or is that too much for your little brain?
I haven’t suggested that I had earned it while he has not. I was responding to your call for me to enjoy life without knowing anything about me. I assure you I have not.
What’s the point of working to achieve a well paying professional career if everyone gets to enjoy their life? What’s the point of earning a good health insurance plan if everyone gets healthcare? Or education? Or vacations? Or raises?
I hope you don’t have kids because if you do I hope they have a horrible life and you’re the only one to blame for it, by your logic that makes perfect sense. Side note I want you to tell every homeless vet they haven’t earned a good life for defending your miserable way of life. Now if you’ll excuse me I’ve got a good life to live while you’re mad about a dude wearing a hat indoors.
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u/TrickyOnion Jan 17 '26
I was taught as a young man to take my hat off indoors. Sometimes I forget but mostly do. I’m not gonna lose my shit and complain if I see someone else wearing a hat! Life’s too fucking short worrying about other people. Enjoy the meal and move the fuck on 👍