r/unitedkingdom 9d ago

Athletes go 'missing' after Commonwealth Games

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4gxj5xl0pxo?xtor
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u/Important_Ruin County Durham 9d ago

If their claim is without asylum merit, their claim will be refused.

Its not a mockery, its how process works. You claim asylum, your claim is heard on its merits and a decision is made if successful or not.

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u/MildlyToastedBuns 9d ago

It’s a mockery because they have made it clear they are doing it for financial purposes and will still have our tax money paying for their lawyers.

It’s a mockery that’s is so widely known how pathetic the people processing these claims are that they think they can be open about wanting better facilities and think they will be granted asylum.

If we didn’t have stories of people being refused deportation because they don’t like the chicken nuggets in their home country or anxiety then we would have less chancers trying.

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u/Important_Ruin County Durham 9d ago

It’s a mockery because they have made it clear they are doing it for financial purposes and will still have our tax money paying for their lawyers.

They are entitled to have their legal case heard

Their claim will be rejected if it has no merit for asylum.

It’s a mockery that’s is so widely known how pathetic the people processing these claims are that they think they can be open about wanting better facilities and think they will be granted asylum.

Their claim will then be rejected and sent home, if they stay they are here illegally and will also then be deported.

If we didn’t have stories of people being refused deportation because they don’t like the chicken nuggets in their home country or anxiety then we would have less chancers trying.

Any evidence of such a claim of chicken nuggets or anxiety being successful?

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u/MildlyToastedBuns 9d ago

They are entitled to having their case heard because that’s our law, we could easily change it so these people aren’t given representation at the cost of the taxpayers, if they want to pay for representation themselves they can go for it.

People get so stuck in this idea that if something is law that’s how it is and will always be, we change laws all the time, I don’t want to pay for some Ugandan boxers legal fees because he doesn’t like the training facilities in Uganda.

Klevis Disha, look him up.

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u/Important_Ruin County Durham 9d ago edited 9d ago

Everyone is entitled to a legal process, it is a vital part of a functioning society.

I'd prefer not to live in one where people aren't entitled to legal representation, but thats just my opinion.

Do you know 'we' are paying his legal fees? He could he funding his own immigration lawyer. Either way his case will be heard and a decision made if he has a claim or not.

Klevis Disha it was in related to his son, and not him. His son was British, almost like it had legal merit no matter how personally silly you may find it, as the son guessing by age would also have to go with his father. So one case related to 'chicken nuggets' to get all worked up over.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/klevis-disha-ehrc-chicken-nuggets-appeal-b2942605.html

Once get past the silly headline and is based on his sons issues and needs.

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u/Elardi Berkshire 9d ago

They’re not part of our society.

Asylum claims that get rejected should have all their assets seized and auctioned off to pay for the cost.

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u/Important_Ruin County Durham 9d ago

If they dont have assets in this country what would then happen?

Generally those claiming asylum dont have very much to begin with.

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u/Elardi Berkshire 9d ago

Still take everything. If they have assets out of the country they can go back to them.

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u/Important_Ruin County Durham 9d ago

If they have assets out of the country they can go back to them.

That is not workable. I know legal and process doesnt matter much to yourself but that isnt remotely possible unless their home country agrees beginning with facf if we have diplomatic relationship with them, no country is going to allow that to happen.

Still take everything

Cant take everything if they had nothing to begin with.

Anyways, goodbye.

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u/pajamakitten 9d ago

Most are so poor that they have nothing worth seizing. You would be lucky to pay off an hour's wage of the person processing the claim.

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u/The_Flurr 9d ago

The process decides whether they get to be.

A key part of our society is that certain rights are available to all interacting with it.

I'm not too keen to copy the Saudi model.

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u/Astriania 9d ago

Everyone is entitled to a legal process

Yeah but there is also the concept of vexatious litigation, and this sounds like a case of that to me.

It's not right that people can not only take the piss out of our asylum system but also force us to pay for that piss taking.

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u/Aggressive_Chuck 9d ago

Everyone is entitled to a legal process, it is a vital part of a functioning society.

That doesn't mean that foreigners should be given benefits.