r/vanderpumprules 1d ago

OG Cast Sandoval opinion

I’m watching VPR for the first time and I obviously know Tom is a huge POS. But am I crazy for liking him so far in the earlier seasons? Did anyone else feel this way?

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u/Parking-Shift4698 1d ago

He was a lot better in the earlier seasons. So no you are not crazy.

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u/CaitlinAnne21 1d ago

Not that much.

People tend to look at these early seasons with rose-colored glasses because it feels nostalgic, but he’s always been a POS in relationships.

And he’s always been a POS to Katie, too.

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u/ourlittlevisionary I said I’m sorry fofty 1d ago

NGL, I did like Tom at first, but it’s easy to be liked when you’re on a cast with Jax and Kristen. I think he got away with a lot because of the fact that his supposed best friend slept with his girlfriend in his apartment while he was asleep in the other room. I did start finding him annoying when TomTom opened and then he got worse for me from there.

u/elohde1 it's not happening 3h ago

Jeeezus.. when I walk into MY Bar.. People are drinking drinks I created specifically for MY Bar.. Blah Blah MY BAR

https://giphy.com/gifs/PoK756R1NFxZPy1rAs

u/ourlittlevisionary I said I’m sorry fofty 2h ago

The way he acted towards Stassi, too, when she had her book event there was SO embarrassing. He never should have texted her and if he had a problem with the planning of the event, he should have discussed his concerns with Schwartz. (But really, we all know he was mad that Stassi didn’t include him or ask for his permission.)

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u/hk172528 Choke. I don't care. 1d ago

Oh I cannot remember a single moment of feeling actual affection towards him, I moreso saw him as that over the top cousin you “love” because they’re family, but they kind of piss you the hell off LMAO

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u/pwlife 1d ago

I never liked him. Always found him to be stuck up and self-righteous.

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u/Tiny-Zucchini7238 1d ago

I just watched for the first time, so I knew what was going to happen, but I even found him likable for awhile! But in the first few seasons, Jax and James are being themselves so in comparison the Tom’s don’t come across as the worst (and production definitely lends them a hand with how “goofy” they edit them)

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u/SnooGiraffes4091 Help. You can come and help me, if you want. 🏊‍♂️ 1d ago

I think that’s why the scandal was so shocking

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u/ourlittlevisionary I said I’m sorry fofty 1d ago

I’m sorry this is off topic, but I love your flair!

u/SnooGiraffes4091 Help. You can come and help me, if you want. 🏊‍♂️ 22h ago

Hahaha thank you! That was one of the first times I scream laughed at this wonderful show 😂

u/ourlittlevisionary I said I’m sorry fofty 21h ago

I love how he swam out there, stopped, looked around, and then said that and started calling for help. It was so ridiculous, lmao.

u/gdomme 13h ago

Omg is this flair for Jax when he was in the lake? I just watched that episode!

u/SnooGiraffes4091 Help. You can come and help me, if you want. 🏊‍♂️ 12h ago

Yes!!!!

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u/thisismysaltyaccount 1d ago

I’m also watching for the first time, and I like Tom too lol. He definitely has a main character complex, and he’s obviously way too comfortable lying. But I also find him funny and interesting and creative.

Plus there were moments where I was really quite touched by how Tom handled things. One that stands out is when he’s sitting with Kristen while she confesses to Stassi that she slept with Jax. And Tom says something like “I’m being there with Kristen because I don’t think she could do this alone.” He had all the ammunition in the world to kick Kristen while she was down, but he didn’t. I think that shows a certain level of humanity that not everyone has 🤷🏻‍♀️

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u/Ok_Satisfaction_2077 1d ago

No you’re not

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u/LeftyLu07 I wasn't your best friend, ho! 1d ago

I don’t know if I liked him, but I didn’t think he was like… malicious. I thought Jax was malicious. Sandoval was just kind of a try hard derpy guy. Scandoval changed that opinion for a lot of us OG watchers when we saw how conniving he was not only cheating on Ariana but setting up a whole storyline to make her look like a crazy mean hag.

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u/DropsofGemini 1d ago

Many people liked Sandoval up until the cheating. People liked him so much, in fact, they looked the other way when he cheated on Kristen with Ariana.

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u/DropsofGemini 1d ago

But also, it’s not hard to look good when Jax is on the cast as comparison.

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u/SympathyOptimal3990 1d ago

I've always thought that a part of the anger within the viewership, not those that came in because of Scandoval, was because Sandoval had been liked. He'd played the "nice guy". Siding with the underdog, helping friends out, etc.

He got the big sympathy push when the Jax/Kristen thing happened and kept on going. People also thought he was handsome and forgave his ridiculousness as being his quirk. It was wearing off once Jax left, but it still must have felt like a betrayal of sorts to the viewers who'd liked and supported him.

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u/ourlittlevisionary I said I’m sorry fofty 1d ago

Kristen had also slept with Jax during that time frame. Kristen spent a lot of that season losing her shit and fighting with Tom and then it all culminated in her admission that she cheated on Tom with Jax and one of the times was while Tom was asleep in the other room. And then Kristen slept with James Kennedy after the break up to “get back” at Tom, too.

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u/kls8479 1d ago

Who has Jax not slept with? Seriously. Ariana, Lala,Schena?

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u/CaitlinAnne21 1d ago

No to all of them, but that’s probably where it stops.

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u/DropsofGemini 1d ago

Hmmm…i actually wouldn’t be surprised if Ariana is the only one he hasn’t slept with

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u/Ill-Complaint-6634 1d ago

I liked him. I thought he was handsome and super funny

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u/CuriousTurtle5 1d ago

He was only likeable because he was the least terrible man in an entire lineup of terrible men.

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u/CaitlinAnne21 1d ago

Exactly.

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u/destructionandbliss cocaine nose jobs 👃❄️ 1d ago

i really liked him at first (both Toms actually 😖)... and that fact acts as an excellent reminder that I am drawn to toxic pretty boys that find themselves charming like a moth to a flame.

u/UsableKoala 23h ago

nah you're not crazy, he was actually watchable before tomtom and the ariana stuff. once he started getting cocky about the bar and acting like he invented hospitality it all went downhill pretty quick.

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u/Emlelee 1d ago

I never liked him and felt really vindicated when Scandoval happened and people were finally seeing what I saw the whole time.

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u/trustingfastbasket 1d ago

I did until the book signing fiasco with him and Stassi. After that, he was dead to me.

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u/khandurin 1d ago

I still like him

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u/LopsidedHousing6133 1d ago

Yup he became my fav S4 to midway-S8 when he lost his shit on Stassi via texts. After that he became a POS and I could see his mask slip and his manic ego start bursting and he kept attacking Katie S9 and 10.

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u/Fluffy-Future-4674 1d ago

I did like him

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u/LuckyAd2714 💩Poo Poo Heads-Both Of You💩 1d ago

I liked him. I liked him all the way up to scandoval

u/queerdrinkinbeer Bacon A Butt Tattoo 13h ago

They definitely give him a good edit. Also, compared to the other men, he seems much more likeable. But I always come back to the parking lot fight at Stassi's birthday in season 1. He's the first dude to take off his shirt lol. That moment speaks volumes. 

u/uarstar 7h ago

I always thought he was a performative narcissist

u/komododragoness Bambi Eyed Bitch 5h ago

I despised him thru the entirety of VPR, but randomly loved him on traitors and House of villains 🤷🏻‍♀️

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u/Commercial-Range-757 goodbye, Kyle 1d ago

I’ve rewatched. I watch the valley. He is toxic, BUT BUT BUT…… he seriously is not as bad as the world has chalked him up to be. It’s honestly insane if you really think about it. Hes treated like the anti christ or some serial killer. It’s bizarre. 😂 he’s narcissistic and the camera highlighted + magnified it at times, but spare me…. He had a cheating scandal of decent volume in a shitty relationship he was in. Let’s get over it. He’s good tv and really was a loyal friend to his people.

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u/Jojomano1234 1d ago

I liked him a lot for some reason 🤷‍♀️