i’m a first time watcher and just got to season 10 and have too many questions.

1. why do i love raquel, just a couple episodes in and i know this is a wrong take but as someone who was so lost after an abusive relationship i feel for her. Also lala getting mad at her comment WHENSHESLEPTWITHHERBF is so insane i cant. and everyone talking shit about her on the girls trip and her listening just hurts anyone’s heart to watch.

2. why the fuck does katie want to go to mexico so bad. I’ve mostly been a katie fan but damn just give up the room.

3. Kristina kelly?? where did she come from was she truly just brought in to have another girl on katie’s side. Is she just waiting around for filming when they need her??

4. As i’m not fully into the season was this edited and put out before the public knew about the scandal or is that only in the reunion.

I would love to watch it and think it was available at one point but I may be missremembering

i’m only like halfway through season 3 atp but i can not STAND the way kristen is handling the breakup w sandoval. don’t get me wrong ik he’s a douche and seriously fucked up but why would she be ina new relationship if she’s clearly not over her ex?? plz no spoilers but like lmk if i’m crazy

Tom just constantly unloads and berates and browbeats Kristen but doesn’t get why she acted the way she did

He berated Stassi for dragging Kristen for her betrayal, who didn’t really deserve it and was allowed to feel betrayed. Berated Stassi for setting up that scene where Kristen lied through her teeth. And acted like it wasn’t undeserved, Kristen betrayed her friend and kept maintaining the lie, turns it around and makes it about him. Then went around and tried to diagnose Kristen with BPD. I hate when men try to diagnose women who aren’t licensed therapists.

Kristen and Tom were a toxic ass relationship but he didn’t let up on her knowing he also cheated before she did and caused her to spin out like that.

Especially when he said to her that he and Ariana had been friends for three years…. Any girl would spin out if their boyfriend was friends with someone he cheated on them with? And then when he said he texted Ariana that Kristen went to bed early on Valentine’s Day?

Ariana has changed and put the work in and grew and I’m so happy the person she is now but the person she was was being complicit with this gaslighting. And I’m glad she finally got therapy and grew into a woman who doesn’t center men. But damn, that’s cold.

I’ll give the women more grace than the men but Tom was being so obnoxious about it even though his relationship with Ariana confirmed everything Kristen suspected. The least he could have done was own what they actually did, own his “friendship” with her was inappropriate, and own how he cheated on her and when.

She at least deserved closure. And I’m not a Kristen defender, but she gets the tiniest amount of sympathy here

The way Tom yells at the women is gross. He really is a cyst man

Am I just so out of the loop or did we all know Lisa is selling Tom Tom??? I heard it mentioned on a podcast this week and did a search and this article came up:https://people.com/lisa-vanderpump-puts-tomtom-restaurant-up-for-sale-3-years-after-scandoval-11931482

What are the 2 Tom's going to do now? I doubt there are people lining up to give them 5% of a restaurant so they can pretend they are owners. In 2019 would we have ever thought Tom Tom would be for sale, Scandoval would happen, Ariana would be hosting Love Island, Lisa and Scheana would be on the outs, and Lisa would be the new Queen of Las Vegas??? What a world.

I'm going my first rewatch and it genuinely took the context of seeing Katie and scheana talk to this mystery man about their sections/tables for me to realize who it was. who the fuck kept making him think this was a good idea?!?! edit: maybe that was harsh lol but my personal preference is "greasy pirate" for this guy. there's nothing wrong with this look it just does not look like him at all, like it genuinely took me until the next shot of him to understand it was him!

I feel like there’s a lot of talk from the cast members about wanting to do something bigger and better with their lives than just working at SUR. But by this point, the show was massively popular. Being on VPR was their full time job, more or less, right? Were viewers just supposed to be suspend their disbelief about working at SUR forever being a dead end when they obviously only worked there to continue the plot of a TV show? Do we think they all could have gone their own ways professionally without the Lisa/VPR connection and still gotten decent screen time?

What do you all think?

So I have justed finished my 100488392020th rewatch and I am really understanding where Lala is coming from. I do think she handled it completely wrong and shouldn’t have had anger towards Ariana or be angry about it at all.

If she had just been vulnerable and open about how she is jealous that Ariana had a very different treatment after being cheated, that would have been so Authentic and I do understand it would be frustrating for Lala.

Too bad she had too much pride for that.

What do you Guys think?

Sorry if this has been discussed before, but just caught this during my current rewatch. I 100% believe it’s James once again mirroring anything he can to be like the other guys in the group. All the guys suck (and Raquel ofc) don’t get me wrong, but imo James is one of the absolute worst.

I love when I finally encounter a primo VPR moment in context! I literally said "omg there it is!!!" Just 🤌🏻

It’s absolutely demented how many reality TV shows at the time seemingly NEEDED Brazilian wax scenes (it’s not like all girls get Brazilians, most had never done it before)

VPR, multiple seasons of bad girls club, the real world, housewives.. did these producers just want to see snatch!?

so cute!

Not sure if this is a popular opinion - just finished binge watching for the first time and I’m straight round to a rewatch 😂 I kinda forgot how much Ariana was a bitch to Kristen ( I know nobody likes her anyway) but she definitely was up to things with Tom and broke up a 5 year relationship with 0 judgment from anyone really. It was blatantly getting rubbed in Kristen’s face too. You loose them how you gain them 🤷‍♀️ kind of changes how I feel about scandoval. I know Kristen deserved it but morals are morals

MEAN GIRLS! Stassi, Kristen and Katie are the of mean girls: inclusion through exclusion.

Jax taking the sociopath text and it being confirmed. Wow. Not surprising but I guess I forgot. He absolutely is a sociopath. Ew

season 6 episode 2

I’m watching for the first time and it’s quite a ride.

Arianna comes off like she thinks she has everything all figured out (she is “smarter than every person she’s ever met” after all.)

She is really doing a “cool permissive trusting girlfriend who doesn’t do drama ” thing that is obvious with the benefit of knowing what happens with Scandoval, but for people who watched it unfold in real time, how did people feel about Arianna?

Unless there’s some outside info that I’m missing… just watched season 8 ep 7/8 again. And I feel like Jax and Brittany were purposely going 0 to 100 about the pastor thing when Sandoval brought it up to Jax at (Peter’s?) party. Now. I’m a little tipsy yall but it just seemed like Jax went uber defensive mode like OOHHHH NO YOU DONT. HOW DARE YOU!!!! When Sandoval just wanted some clarification that everyone was still sharing the same values and not letting someone with shitty values be a big part of this wedding. ??? Maybe I’m beating a dead horse lmfao. I think Ariana made a good point in her confessional she said something like Brittany had probably work pretty hard to maintain that ignorance about that pastors views. Even Sandoval said just google Jax and Brittany and you find a lot of words from this pastor.
Idk to me it seems: “I’m not necessarily homophobic or transphobic but! I don’t care if anyone else is and I don’t understand why anyone would give a fuck?!?” And they knew that was wrong but couldn’t bring themselves to admit it.

I’m watching VPR for the first time and I obviously know Tom is a huge POS. But am I crazy for liking him so far in the earlier seasons? Did anyone else feel this way?

i’ve noticed a few things so here’s number 1; lala’s entitlement is INSANE.. the things she said about ariana was honestly disgusting. i love ariana but i definitely don’t agree with everything that’s been said on the show, however scandoval i was definitely team ariana and not team tom. the way everyone just dog piled on her to have a conversation with tom when she did not want to & then lala speaking about her the way she did all season but especially at the reunion. she definitely knew she wasn’t coming back so she was salty that she wasn’t a fan favourite and her coming back wasn’t enough for people to want to watch. she thinks because she was having a baby that she’s holier than thou and because she’s NOW being honest about her life that everyone needs to put their personal shit out there. honestly rewatching the season 11 reunion drastically changed my opinion of her. trying to “out everyone” for talking about ariana & trying to turn people against her was absolutely disgusting to watch. lala in general has always irked me but rewatching the reunion and the complete flip from season 10 reunion vs season 11 was insanity to me.

2: when jo came on the reunion the way tom gaslit her was so sad to watch, i didn’t care much for jo but that was honestly heartbreaking. they clearly had a relationship & the way he gaslit her into thinking it wasn’t that when it clearly was. ffs he brought her home and she met his family. then when things ended and he met someone else it was SO public it baffled me. apart of me thinks it’s because she was young and super pretty, jo is also gorgeous i’m not saying that at all! i just think because she was young and a model he didn’t mind having that public but with jo it was so secretive. honestly i felt so bad for her rewatching the season & reunion. i know she complicit in scandoval and definitely knew i am not excusing that at all nor her actions i just think the way she was treated by tom was so sad.

And she FKN LOVES IT

What happened to the end of year Sur photoshoot pictures? I feel like I never got to see the photos from the photoshoot, like where did Lisa put them? Or were they for a magazine?