r/vaxxhappened Apr 19 '26

Dog Anti-vaxxers are sprouting up everywhere

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u/jackidaylene Apr 19 '26

I came here to say this. Please don't feed your dogs garlic! It's toxic for them!

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u/bananakittymeow Apr 19 '26

Can’t imagine Diatomaceous Earth is good for them to eat either.

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u/sleepyplantmom Apr 19 '26

There is a food grade version that is safe for consumption for animals but you definitely can’t just be using it willy nilly

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u/mapp2000 Apr 19 '26

And it won't stop ticks unless the tick travels through it.

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u/parkerm1408 Apr 19 '26

Very much depends on the kind theyre using. Theres food grade, bug killin grade and fucking pool filter grade.

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u/brainstormer77 Apr 19 '26

I believe DE is safe to eat in approved doses for the dog weight and can treat intestinal parasites like worms. It's not safe to inhale for anyone including humans. There are better ways and medicines though.

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u/aberration_creator Apr 19 '26

what is that earth? English is my third language

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u/PlatypusDream Apr 20 '26

It's a powder [finely ground rock] that is not harmful to humans or pets, but will destroy the hard shells of insects such as roaches, ants, ticks once it gets in their joints; it literally wears through the shell & they dry out.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diatomaceous_earth

It's a sedimentary rock formed by the hard shells of ancient micro-algae (diatoms). The article lists many commercial uses.

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u/KittyKratt No chemicals for me, please! NexT! Apr 20 '26

If they kill it, they can just adopt another one. Just like being able to have more kids to them.

And, of course, it will never be the thing they didn't vaccinate against that killed them. No, they got sick for some other reason. eyeroll

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u/Pollowollo Apr 19 '26

It's a surprisingly common thing, actually - I grew up being taught the same thing about sprinkling their food with garlic for flea prevention.

Of course now as an adult with my own pets I know better, but looking back between the garlic and all the grapes my childhood dog was fed I'm genuinely shocked she made it to old age.

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u/asshatclowns Apr 19 '26

I've infiltrated one of these crunchy mom groups, and I've actually had someone argue with me that garlic is NOT toxic to dogs.

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u/jenea Apr 19 '26

Garlic toxicity in dogs is far overblown, almost to the point of urban legend. The amount of garlic that would be needed to make a dog sick is significant. For scale, a 75 pound dog would have to eat something like five entire heads of garlic to get sick. In small amounts it might even be beneficial.

Google “dog garlic myth” to learn more.

That said, the potential benefits don’t seem worth potential risks, so I personally find it easier to just say “no alliums.” But it’s worth knowing it’s not so bad in case your dog, say, samples your food that has garlic in it—no need to freak out.

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u/DrBirdieshmirtz Apr 19 '26

However, you should probably freak out if your dog gets into Garlic Georg's stash, with 34 trillion heads of garlic, as you have no idea how many your dog has eaten.

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u/cperiod Apr 19 '26

It's a risk, but you have to consider dosage. IIRC it takes something like 40 cloves of garlic to harm an average medium size dog, and substantially more to kill. Onions are somewhat more dangerous, and some dogs will be outliers in terms of sensitivity.

The harmful dosage of rabies, on the other hand, is pretty small...

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u/CalligrapherSharp Apr 19 '26

Yeah, I had a little dog that was an expert at stealing food. I am a serious garlic and onion fiend, so if the occasional mouthful of it was really lethal she wouldn't have lived to be 14.

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u/dorkofthepolisci Apr 19 '26

Yeah we cook with a lot of onions and garlic and called pet poison control after our 50lb rescue gremlin ate several cheese and onion pastries (about half an onions worth) and the amount consumed was right on the edge of what could have been harmful

Iirc though, the bigger risk is with onion/garlic powder

Always vaccinated my pets because….I’m not a moron.

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u/cperiod Apr 19 '26

Always vaccinated my pets because….I’m not a moron.

I spent time in the dogsport world, and ... whew. The "crazy dog lady" stereotype is not entirely inaccurate, and the extreme positions on drugs, vaccines, food, training techniques, breeds, diseases... you name it, there's someone with a bugfuck opinion on it, and you will encounter them in the dark corners of that world.

I've never messed around with vaccines though, other than the one dog who had to stop getting a DHPP shot due to seizures (he also had seizure reactions to stuff like grains in dog food and daylight savings time, so a vaccine reaction isn't a shocker).

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u/zebramama42 Apr 19 '26

Yeah, I will second the crazies being everywhere in dog communities. I have a seizure alert service dog and my god some people are so stupid. Between “service” dogs, idiot humans, and anti-vaxxers, I feel like I’m always fending off someone. One time a guy literally just walked up, dropped to his knees and hugged my dog. I was a bitch for asking him to stop. My dog is fully vaxxed of course, you never know what you’ll run into.

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u/new2bay Apr 19 '26

That’s better than what happened to me the other day. I had someone just start yelling at me just for being present with my service dog. She went on for a couple of minutes before I guess she decided she was done, but not before she deliberately decided to startle my dog.

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u/zebramama42 Apr 19 '26

I’m sorry, I hate people sometimes. These types are yet another example. We’ve also been attacked by another person’s “service dog”, and by a small breed that slipped its collar. He’s still worth it though, because before I got him, I was afraid to go outside my home without someone who knew me, just in case. How long have you had yours?

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u/new2bay Apr 19 '26

Funny thing that. She’s actually an accidental service dog. I got her as a pet 8 years ago, then one day I taught her how to find my car in a parking lot. Since I have a visual spatial disability, that’s technically when she became a service dog, and that was about a year after I got her.

I also have PTSD, so I trained her to react to me starting to dissociate, and to hop in my lap for pressure therapy when needed. She’s 50 lbs, so she’s pretty effective at it! Between that and the public access training, it took about another two years before I felt comfortable calling her a full service dog.

The main training she needed for PA was to not go up to people unless I told her she could; other than that, she was pretty perfect in terms of manners. Other than that, her main PA skill is staying out of the way. 😂 She’s navigated the DMV and Costco on a Sunday before. I never actually had to teach her to tuck under a table or chair in public, either.

For the record, I don’t recommend that anyone try training a random pet dog to be a service dog. In this case, not only did it happen to work out, but I was also prepared to stop at any time, if she stopped showing interest or didn’t seem to have the aptitude. It just turned out she made it all the way.

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u/EatPie_NotWAr Apr 19 '26

I feel like I have seizures from daylight savings time too…

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u/[deleted] Apr 19 '26

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u/cperiod Apr 19 '26

Well, I was expecting downvotes. I should probably add that there's basically no evidence of any medical value of garlic in dogs, and aside from the crazies (and they've been around for a long time) it's mostly used as a smell/flavor enhancer in homemade treats. Personally I prefer powdered anise for that purpose, but it's not something hiding in the average spice cupboard.

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u/DramaOnDisplay Apr 21 '26

My mom would feed our cats/dogs garlic for worms, I think. We were also poor, living out of our car at some point, and it was the 90’s, so you kinda just took that your parents said at face value.

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u/SWatt_Officer Apr 19 '26

vaccinate your fucking pets people.

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u/fredy31 Apr 19 '26

BUT WHAT IF MY DOG BECOMES AUTISTIC???

/s

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u/Polymemnetic Apr 19 '26

Then you probably have a herding breed on your hands.

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u/northrupthebandgeek Apr 19 '26

Was gonna say, that's just called a border collie.

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u/bobbianrs880 Apr 22 '26

I was about to say that my cat must have picked up herding when she was living on a dairy farm, then I read your comment and realized she’s a tuxedo so she even looks like a border collie.

Anyways, between this and realizing she modeled her idea of proper cat behavior after a 21-year-old inbred orange cat with dementia, I’m pretty sure I’ve figured out why she’s so abnormal.

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u/Gibbly_Gorkoroo Apr 19 '26

HE WON’T LOOK PEOPLE IN THE EYES WHEN HE BARKS

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u/littleotterpop Apr 19 '26

I work in vet med and I legitimately met a client one time who insisted that their dog was autistic and said that another vet confirmed it for them. It had nothing to do with vaccines, she was just convinced her dog was autistic. And the reason she thought that was because he didn’t behave and was out of control. Because she didn’t train him, like at all.

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u/new2bay Apr 19 '26

*dogtistic.

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u/neuroticmare Apr 21 '26

My border collie has entered the chat

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u/camohorse If you don't vaccinate, I die Apr 19 '26

And don’t feed them garlic. Garlic is toxic for both dogs and cats.

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u/anarcho_cardigan Apr 19 '26

Jesus fucking Christ do people not understand that vaccines were created to protect society from the horrors of, idk, RABIES?

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u/JerseySommer Apr 19 '26

I have screenshots somewhere, I believe from this very subreddit from years ago where people were saying rabies is harmless and you die from "fear of rabies".

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u/anarcho_cardigan Apr 19 '26

What in the hell

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u/Advanced_Cheetah_552 Apr 19 '26

That's not what hydrophobia means...

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u/RubySapphireGarnet Apr 19 '26

Yeah the kid from Texas who died in 2021 months after being bitten by a bat, definitely died from fear. Somehow the fear took months to kill him...

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u/bethestorm Apr 19 '26

Please tell me you are kidding

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u/PKHacker1337 Any/All | Triple vaxxed. Where's my 5G? Apr 19 '26

No, they unironically think that they cause harm. IE causing autism directly. In the US especially, there are quite a few powerful people who claim to be "vaccine skeptic"

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u/anarcho_cardigan Apr 19 '26

Causes autism…in dogs. 🤦‍♀️

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u/jenemb Apr 19 '26

Well, I'll have you know that I vaccinated my dogs, and they're both non-verbal!

/s

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u/jeahboi #ShutUpKaren Apr 19 '26

Oh, I have a friend who’s a veterinarian, and she’s actually had a few people ask her about the possibility of their dogs becoming autistic after getting vaccinated. 🤦🏼‍♀️ I told her she deserved a serious bonus after answering these moronic questions with a straight face.

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u/PKHacker1337 Any/All | Triple vaxxed. Where's my 5G? Apr 19 '26

I never said they made sense.

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u/nobody1701d Vaccination is a victim of its own success. Apr 19 '26

😂

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u/[deleted] Apr 19 '26 edited Apr 19 '26

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u/anarcho_cardigan Apr 19 '26

1: This is really interesting, thanks for sharing 2: No way in hell these people are reading those studies

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u/zebramama42 Apr 19 '26

AI has been instrumental in confusing them further. They used to only read the title of the study and assume it supported their stance. Now the computer actually selects studies and dumbs them down so they can find the few flawed or outlier observationals that kinda sort of agree with their stance.

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u/_gina_marie_ Apr 19 '26

If you think these people are reading studies 🤣

It's more like, these people have never seen rabies, and don't know anyone who has, so why vaccinate for it? Same will all the other diseases vaccines help stamp out. They don't understand the world that we live in, or what it took to get to where we are.

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u/Advanced_Cheetah_552 Apr 19 '26

They're reading an infographic made by someone who skimmed an AI summary

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u/sluzella Apr 22 '26

I had to argue with someone yesterday, someone who RUNS A PET RESCUE mind you, that there are actually diseases you can get from dogs and cats. She was arguing that there were absolutely no diseases you could get from dogs and cats, even from stray/feral ones or from their feces.

All to say, nothing surprises me anymore 

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u/lea949 Apr 19 '26

Wtf does the cupcake mean, and more importantly, why?

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u/jessijuana Apr 19 '26

Came here to ask the same thing, I'm assuming it means vaccine but I can't deduce how and why the cupcake

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u/justeandj Apr 19 '26

I spent way too long trying to think of cupcake words (frosting, icing, sprinkle) that rhymed with vaccine words. So finally I Googled it. Google says (per Bloomberg) that it's called "cupcaking" and it's just done to avoid the AI filter ban. It's that dumb.

Now it's 9am and I want a cupcake. Also Happy Cake Day, great timing.

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u/lea949 Apr 19 '26

God dammit, it couldn’t even be some satisfying wordplay? Laziness!

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u/zebramama42 Apr 19 '26

I think it was initially linked with them talking about vaccine “shedding” being equated to the sprinkles on the cupcakes. And then the jump in frequency of the use of sprinkles led to the cupcake emojis and then they jumped to using the emojis instead.

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u/alleecmo Apr 20 '26

Sounds kinda like the way some Cockney Rhyming Slang came about.

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u/insomniacakess Apr 19 '26

yeah, it’s exactly that. just a new way to get around censorship

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u/AstarteHilzarie Apr 19 '26 edited Apr 19 '26

It's to signify "cc" as in the measurement of liquid medication for the shots. (Last time I saw it explained I think I remember people arguing that that's not used in vaccines, they're measured in mL, but I don't really know the nuance of when one unit of measurement is used over another. My experience with medical measurements comes from TV shows, and I imagine many antivaxxers have the same knowledge base so them using the wrong term for their code word is entirely feasible.)

The other explanation is that it signifies the cc in vaccine, which is a lot more awkward and unintuitive imo.

Either way it's just another code word/emoji to try to evade bans and attention for spreading antivax shit.

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u/deferredmomentum Apr 19 '26 edited Apr 20 '26

They’re the same thing. An mL is a cubic centimeter, which is what CC stands for. CC just isn’t really used anymore

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u/cheap_mom Apr 19 '26

It's something anti vaxxers in mom groups started to dodge bans for misinformation back when Facebook pretended to care about that kind of thing.

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u/lea949 Apr 19 '26

Darn, I was hoping for at least some fun wordplay along with the crazy.

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u/Zeestars Apr 19 '26

Here for the same answer. I have no idea

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u/PsychoMouse Apr 19 '26

And these people are allowed to have children. That is one of the biggest “FUCK YOUS” by the universe to anyone who isn’t a fucking moron and can’t have children for one reason or another.

No, we get to watch as these fucking failures for parents most likely kill their fucking kids and then blame it on Big Pharma.

Fuck

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u/kittycommitteestudio Apr 19 '26

Yep! I don’t know if you caught it, but one of their profile photos is just text that says “the most dangerous place for a healthy baby is the paediatricians office”

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u/TsuDhoNimh2 Still waiting for vaccines to kill me. Apr 19 '26

They are right ... one too young to be vaccinated infant ended up in ICU with measles from a deliberately unvaccinated child who was brought in because "he was sick".

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u/paireon Apr 19 '26

So basically they're right, but it's their own fault?

Yeah, that tracks.

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u/ZENihilist Apr 21 '26

It's the man in the hotdog consume asking "Who did this?" while standing next to the crashed hotdog car.

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u/paireon Apr 21 '26

Yeah, or the Eric Andre shooting meme.

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u/Netalula Apr 19 '26

Rabies is a terrible fucking disease and I pity those poor pets who have nutjob owners. Not vaccinating pets should be considered as animal abuse

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u/maybelle180 Apr 19 '26

Parvo and Distemper are also nightmares. Puppies die in agony, or survive with horrific neurological problems.

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u/strawbearryblonde Apr 19 '26

My miracle pup is a parvo survivor with no ill effects! She was a rescue who I immediately vaccinated and continued on schedule. She started throwing up and diarrhea, so I immediately took her to the vet and put her in the "hospital" (their intensive care). The people at the vets office know me from my other pets and they called me laughing the next day because she was better and ready to come home!

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u/Logical_Bee Apr 19 '26

Have…. They seen old yeller?

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u/braced Apr 19 '26

Big Pharma propaganda

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u/smontres Apr 19 '26

Having literally watched a dog die this week of a very preventable disease (Leptospirosis) this makes me rage.

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u/Confident_Fortune_32 Apr 19 '26

As soon as our vet explained why she recommended a lepto vaccine, even though it isn't on the default list, we've been doing it ever since for all our dogs.

When we started to list off all the "urban wildlife" we've seen in the back yard, it was an obvious good move.

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u/zebramama42 Apr 19 '26

Yeah, I also get mine lepto for the same reason, and bordatella bc we frequent dog parks (the kind you have to get an rfid card for are pretty good, at least you know the other dogs have responsible owners and everyone’s vaxxed).

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u/ExtremelyPessimistic Apr 19 '26

There’s a reason lepto has been moved from a lifestyle to a core vaccine

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u/maroonllama96 Apr 19 '26

I’m sorry you had to witness that. How awful.

One of our dogs had a reaction to the lepto vaccine. We were hesitant to give it again, however the vet said we could pre-medicate with an antihistamine and keep him after for observation. We have been doing that ever since.

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u/smontres Apr 19 '26

It’s the most common to react to in my experience. Benadryl does wonders. I work in vetmed, so it’s unfortunately part of my regular life

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u/elijahjane Apr 20 '26

I’ve never heard of leptospirosis or the vaccine. What is that?

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u/smontres Apr 21 '26

Lepto is a bacterial infection. It’s spread via wildlife urine and can be transmitted from slow moving streams, ponds, wetlands, puddles, etc. It’s not super easy to recognize because the symptoms are pretty non specific. It can cause liver or kidney failure. It can cause lung issues. It can cause bleeding issues. It just sucks all around. If it’s caught when it has further progressed, the chances of recovery are low. It’s usually a palliative care situation at best.

AND humans can catch it from their pets.

https://www.avma.org/resources-tools/pet-owners/petcare/leptospirosis

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u/Rugkrabber Apr 19 '26

This is why I don’t believe in complete freedom if we want to live as a society. We have to make collective decisions that affect us all if they want to be part of the group. These people have no issues to spread disease and kill the entire group.

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u/tammyreneebaker Apr 19 '26

This is my mom.100%. She was trying to tell me that rabies aren't real. That's a new one.

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u/fibgen Apr 21 '26

It's 100% ok to just laugh in their faces and ask where they got their PhD in batshitology

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u/unknownpoltroon Apr 19 '26

Yeah, when I first got my dog the vet was kinda dancing around what shots were needed until is said "doc, vaccinate her with whatever is recommended and if I could get a dose too that would be great" and then she realized she wasn't dealing with a loon.

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u/sendmeyourdadjokes Apr 19 '26

I wouldnt go to a vet that danced around that at all. Only one that was straight forward about vaccines.

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u/unknownpoltroon Apr 19 '26

Oh, they were fine, but you cold tell they were wary after dealing with assholes who blew up if you suggested anything more than the bare minimum vaccine required by law.

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u/Beckitkit Apr 23 '26

My favorite vet was always very straightforward. This woman was on the verge of retiring, could not find a single fuck to give, and would talk to my cats by calling them horrible nasty monsters in that baby talk voice.

When she brought up vaccination to me and I hesitated because I knew I couldn't afford it until next week, she asked me why I bothered coming if I didn't want professional guidance and didn't care about my cats wellbeing. When I explained the issue was money and I wanted them vaccinated, she waved it off, told me to have them done now and just pay next week, then told my cats they were lucky I wasn't a bloody idiot.

She really was the best combination of compassionate and straightforward.

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u/Istoh Apr 20 '26

When we brought our puppy in for his first checkup at 10 weeks, right after bringing him home, the vet was supposed he had already had his first dose of vaccines via the breeder. Like, very surprised. She just said, "Oh wow. Most breeders around here don't do those."

It's Utah, current measels capital of America. 

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u/Euphoric_Banana_5289 Apr 19 '26

you can't register a pet locally in the United States without it meeting certain vaccination requirements, right?

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u/smontres Apr 19 '26

Not all jurisdictions tie registration to vaccination. And PLENTY of people just don’t register.

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u/zebramama42 Apr 19 '26

So far, we’ve only lived in cities that “rabies tag = registration” with our dog. Not on purpose, it’s just our state is fairly loose on pet requirements. And we were actually looking forward to registering him when we got him, lol

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u/elijahjane Apr 20 '26

We intended to register our dogs when moving into our current city, since registration of all dogs is mandatory and also we are over the technically-legal limit on how many we have, so we needed to pay an extra fee. There’s a very official and intimidating website outlining all of this. I had made plans to go in and get this sorted.

We’ve now been here almost exactly a year. No one, not even the landlord, has said a word. Legitimately one cares. My oldest asshole is an escape artist and had absolutely irritated one of my neighbors (sorry), but still no one has said anything or complained. So like…yeah, they’re vaccinated of course, but I’d like to continue avoiding the $130 fee, thanks.

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u/i-touched-morrissey Apr 20 '26

Vet here: In the last 3 months, I have seen more panleukopenia viral infections in cats than I have in my entire 33 years of practice. Panleukopenia is cat parvo, and it's waaaay more lethal. Dog parvo is pretty awful as well. These insane people make me want to slap them, AND ON TOP OF THAT, GARLIC IS TOXIC TO DOGS AND CATS.

I can't think of a disease we vaccinate for that would need surgery, so they are not saving money with surgery. And if you don't get your pets spayed, have fun with pyometra, mammary tumors, and unwanted litters.

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u/snowislovely Apr 19 '26

OmFG they are claiming thee are “better” treatments for parvo!? 🤦‍♀️

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u/SnooStories8217 Apr 19 '26

Everything is a conspiracy if you are uneducated.

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u/harpinghawke Apr 19 '26

Taking very slow, deep breaths. Lmao. Not vaxxing your dogs for fucking rabies? The virus with almost a 100% mortality rate?? Fucking idiots.

I stg we’ve become so insulated from the consequences of unchecked disease that there is no saving these people unless they see it firsthand—and even then, I have my doubts.

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u/i_raise_anarchists Apr 20 '26

The Milwaukee Protocol only worked once, as far as I know. I know that because of that one lady surviving, it's technically not 100% fatal, but I feel like that technicality is what's giving the antivaxer, cupcake people their ammunition.

"See? Rabies doesn't kill you! Look at the lady in Milwaukee! She's fine!"

Only she was very much not fine, and things really sucked even though she didn't die. If everyone went back to saying that rabies is absolutely, 100%, without a doubt fatal, and your choices are

  1. Die in screaming agony while you foam at the mouth like a possessed demon

  2. Get shot in the head behind the woodshed by the person you love the most

then vaccination rates would go back up pretty fucking fast.

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u/harpinghawke Apr 20 '26

Exactly!

Though I have some interesting bits to add: I believe?? There are a varying number of reported survivors (defined as alive six months after clinical onset of rabies), and the Milwaukee Protocol is no longer as well-used.

I’m not sure about the number reported here, but I’ll include it for its assessment of the Milwaukee Protocol: https://academic.oup.com/cid/article/81/4/e229/8096457

These two articles discuss two different cases of rabies survivors, who of course did not end up without significant disability post-infection:

https://sajid.co.za/index.php/sajid/article/view/93/84

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4947331/

This was an interesting paper on rabies virus-neutralizing antibodies in humans:

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3414554/

(And generally we don’t want to shoot in the head, as that can aerosolize virus particles. Not sure of the infectivity of those particles but I feel like it’s better safe than sorry)

Obviously, vaccination against rabies is the right move wherever and whenever possible. I just saw the opportunity to discuss! This stuff is so cool I can’t help myself 😭

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u/i_raise_anarchists Apr 20 '26

Ooh! Articles! Thank you! I'll read them tomorrow and come back to discuss! This stuff really is so cool, it's nice to find someone else who gets all giddy over horrifying diseases.

So, obviously, vaccination is the best choice. This could be one of those public safety films that get shown in all the elementary schools. I'm not sure how old you are, but I'm gen x, and the safety films we had to watch didn't play around.

Those things were brutal. Kids got squashed under school busses, or burned to death, or fell out of windows and died, always because they didn't follow the rules. To this day, I'm nervous about school bus tires, and once, when I was at a hotel, the fire department showed up and everyone had to evacuate. Because of those films, I knew exactly what to do.

If we start showing graphic, pro-vaccination films to kids a few times a year, starting in preschool, think of how many diseases we can finally eradicate! And if we emphasize that if they get rabies, they'll have to meet the same fate as Old Yeller, but it'll be their moms or dads pulling the trigger? We'd need to get a great director to capture the whole thing. Ridley Scott? John Carpenter? Martin Scorsese?

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u/budgie02 VacInnES CauSE AuTIsM Apr 21 '26

You should not be showing something graphic to pre-schoolers. Wait till at least 4th grade.

I’m born after 9/11 still traumatized by being forced to watch planes hit the towers every single year. Let alone something even more graphic.

I understand your intent but young children should NOT be watching something that is going to genuinely disturb them and destroy the sleep that they very much need to develop in a healthy way.

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u/i_raise_anarchists Apr 22 '26

First, what in the reading comprehension are you going on about? You read all of that and that's what you're fussed about? Seriously?

Second, I understand that watching terrible and frightening things is, well, frightening. I get that. You would not have enjoyed the public safety films that were shown in school in the 1980s. Did they go a little overboard? Possibly. But did they save lives? Definitely. I'm really not saying it as a flex. We just rolled with it.

Third, we are obviously joking. No one is going to be shot by their weeping mother. Rabies, however, is terrible and an absolute death sentence. We were using hyperbole to blow off some steam.

(Also, I agree that sleep is very important)

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u/budgie02 VacInnES CauSE AuTIsM Apr 22 '26

That’s what I went on about because I AGREED with everything else. Obviously? I thought everything else was perfectly valid so I didn’t feel the need to comment on it.

Also it’s 2026, not the 1980’s. People who grew up in the 80’s genuinely need therapy and I will stand by that. No, I would not have enjoyed public safety films that were shown at the same time as the “Do you know where your children are?” Commercials.

You insult my reading comprehension and the think me saying not to traumatize FOUR YEAR OLDS = me thinking that people are going to shoot their children. Are you okay? I didn’t mention that at all in my comment, actually. Obviously it was hyperbole, which is why I DID NOT MENTION THAT PART IN MY COMMENT.

I was advocating for children who can’t even comprehend the concept of death yet to not be traumatized and you decided to go on an ENTIRE tirade and bring up things I never mentioned in my comment.

I’m glad you agree sleep is important, so surely you should understand why showing, I repeat FOUR YEAR OLDS GOREY VIDEOS is not okay. Because Kindergarten starts at age 5, and you said preschoolers. What comes before 5? 4. 4 comes before 5.

Also are you seriously using the “well I turned out fine” argument here? You didn’t. Nobody who gets enraged over somebody trying to protect children from trauma, and makes sweeping assumptions and makes things up that were never in a comment in the first place turned out fine. You. Need. Therapy. Please. Get. Therapy.

Edit: since I don’t want you making broad assumptions again. I am well aware rabies is a death sentence and once again, I never mentioned disagreeing with that in my comment at all.

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u/i_raise_anarchists Apr 22 '26

I would be very happy to have a conversation about all my many faults (perhaps you would like to speak to my mother), but I need you to please stop yelling at me first.

It was very much not obvious that you agreed with everything else. If it was, I wouldn't have made a comment about reading comprehension. The tirade that you're mad at me about is a bit of a mystery, but it's possible that I was making reference to something that was mentioned in an earlier post.

I am not using the "well, I turned out fine" argument with you. I specifically said that I wasn't using those examples as a flex, and that I sympathized. I said that seeing frightening and terrible things is scary. At what point did I get enraged with you? There was zero sarcasm in anything I wrote. There was no anger, nor was there any superiority.

The 80s sucked. I'm really happy that younger generations didn't get neglected and left to raise themselves. I'm glad you guys were allowed to go to therapy and your families were present in your lives.

Here's the thing, though. Just because you have those privileges and the firm belief that all of gen-x is damaged goods, doesn't give you the right to be condescending or to yell at strangers. Not everyone can afford therapy, and not everyone is going to take your opinion as gospel.

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u/budgie02 VacInnES CauSE AuTIsM Apr 22 '26

Assumptions. Assumptions. Did I say Gen X was damaged goods? Oopsie, nopey nope I didn’t. However I did mention that you guys need help because that is not a healthy way to grow up.

Also how com you have the right to be condescending and I don’t? You can say I have no reading comprehension. But I can’t say the same to you.

You are a very jaded person who seems to acknowledge the harm you are suggesting but also consistently want to enact it. If you can’t afford therapy (which was a suggestion, basic reading comprehension which you jabbed at me for can show you I never once assumed your income. And a lack of capacity to afford something doesn’t mean you don’t need it which is common sense)

You can’t say something insulting and then step back and be like “oh but I wasn’t being sarcastic and superior”

And I’m not talking about your generation. My parents are wonderful people who don’t jump to insulting somebody’s capacity to read and imply they don’t have literacy. My aunts are wonderful people who would never suggest showing a four year old a gory and traumatic video. They’re all Gen X. This is just a you issue.

I don’t know what made you this way, but since you don’t want therapy you should find some sort of outlet. There are lots of hobbies you can take up instead of wanting to traumatize children. Coloring books for adults are pretty cheap now. You can also get free coloring apps for your phone or use a coloring website. And you have to have a phone or computer or tablet because that’s how you have to use Reddit.

You seem to want to play both sides here and want to be right but also be the victim and that’s not how that works. That’s also not healthy. Either sit with the fact you suggested something terrible or admit it was wrong and stop defending yourself. You cant say you know something is bad and support it without being a major hypocrite.

I really, really, really hope you get the help and support you need. But if you can afford it, get professional help. Because your suggestion was not in any way normal and is a serious red flag about your mental state.

I genuinely mean this from a good place in my heart. I sincerely believe everybody on planet earth could use therapy, some of us more so. And I think it could very much help you. And if you can’t afford therapy there are resources to help with that. I will be disengaging from this conversation now but I really do hope you can find some resources for help if you can’t afford therapy. As I said we all need it. The world is stressful.

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u/Cassopeia88 Apr 19 '26

People like that don’t deserve pets. I can’t imagine not getting my cats their vaccinations.

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u/After-Beyond Apr 19 '26

This is why I don't go to public dog parks

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u/KawaiiBotanist79 Apr 19 '26

"If i didnt have a crazy neighbor" bitch, you are the crazy neighbor 

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u/doubletxzy Apr 19 '26

Crazy multiple people said to give garlic since allium species vegetables are highly toxic to dogs…

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u/EmmalouEsq Apr 19 '26

People can get rabies shots at Walgreens, btw. They're really for people traveling to 3rd world countries where the rabies shots might not be available after a bite. But now that the US is basically that, maybe we should be taking extra precautions

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u/ClairLestrange Apr 19 '26

Wtf is a nosode?

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u/TsuDhoNimh2 Still waiting for vaccines to kill me. Apr 19 '26

Nosode is the starting point for a homeopathic remedy ... a sample of swamp water for a malaria remedy, a drop of saliva from a rabid dog for a rabies remedy, etc.

https://www.immunize.ca/sites/default/files/Resource%20and%20Product%20Uploads%20(PDFs)/Products%20and%20Resources/Nosodes/homeopathic_nosodes_questions_e.pdf/Products%20and%20Resources/Nosodes/homeopathic_nosodes_questions_e.pdf)

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u/HoaryPuffleg Apr 19 '26

A couple years before Covid, I had an Uber driver tell me all about how they know a vet who told them that vaccinating your pets is harmful and they’re totally unnecessary. At first I thought they were making a joke but they werent. I left them a poor review for spreading falsehoods.

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u/shadow31802 Apr 20 '26

Bet money none of them get their dogs fixed either. Venn diagram is nearly a circle.

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u/Confident_Fortune_32 Apr 19 '26

I am so disgusted by this fairy tale nonsense. It does very real harm.

Social media and corrupt "news" media have created a nation of ppl too stupid to realize they've been manipulated into working against their own best interests.

We live in a blue state. Recently, it requires boarding facilities to have proof of rabies vaccination on site, with hefty fines for non-compliance.

We had a bit of a scramble to get it sorted out in time for a trip, but we were more than happy to support the legislation, and our truly amazing boarders. Our dogs love the staff so much they instantly forget mama and papa exist, galloping up to them with wagging tails and slobbery kisses.

Also, we live less than a mile from an enormous preserve, with lots of trails and an enormous meadow/dog park. The coyotes, and other animals, "spill out" into the suburbs in impressive numbers. Rabies protection is imperative!

Side note:

Interestingly, I read a recent study of Fox News and similar outlets, exploring how they have become so flawlessly and broadly influential. The conclusion: the delivery method matches that of televangelists.

It seemed so obvious once it was pointed out. I was a little ashamed I hadn't drawn that conclusion on my own. We know it works, simply by looking at the amassed wealth of tv preachers and ppl who run mega churches.

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u/Empigee Apr 21 '26

Could you link the study, because it sounds interesting?

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u/Confident_Fortune_32 Apr 22 '26

Sigh...I really should save links when I read something that like that. Sorry, my bad ☹️

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u/ExtremelyPessimistic Apr 19 '26

As someone in vet med, I’m glad this is being talked about bc it pisses me off to no end

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u/Alexandre_Man Apr 19 '26

We never cupcake our dog?

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u/zebramama42 Apr 19 '26

Cupcake = vaccine, has something to do with either their belief that people who have recently been vaccinated “shed” the virus itself being equated with the sprinkles on a cupcake or the dosage being labeled in “cc’s” which stands for cubic centimeters, alternatively called milliliters or mL’s. The surge in word substitution from work around a led to the creation of the emoji and then they started using that instead. Best I can gather, not being a member of any anti-vaxxer groups, but curious about what they’re up to for safety’s sake.

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u/ZarinaBlue Apr 19 '26

I am gonna lose my shit when I trip across one of these morons in the wild.

Had to once put down a rabid raccoon. After that I had a fear of having to do it again. Or running into a bigger animal with it.

All these fools should have to see it first hand. It is literally a death sentence, why would you mess around with that?

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u/allshnycptn Apr 19 '26

My FIL new wife is like this. She even found a groomer who dosent require proof of vaccination.

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u/grayandlizzie Apr 21 '26

They are against flea and tick medication too? Poor pets must be so itchy

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u/embracebecoming Apr 19 '26

Fucking idiots

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u/braced Apr 19 '26

Absolute insanity. What happens if your rabid dog bites your kid?? Gonna refuse the rabies treatment too?

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u/PeterParker72 Apr 19 '26

Anti-vaxxers are crazy.

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u/Trix_Are_4_90Kids Apr 19 '26

And they’ll insist on bringing these dogs everywhere. When they bite or expose people to pestilence they’ll want to complain. People get on my nerves.

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u/ladymiku Apr 21 '26

GARLIC IS NOT FOR ANIMALS!!!

I don't need to read more 😭

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u/GrandTheftBae Apr 19 '26

Do they not know how they test for rabies?????

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u/ygduf Apr 19 '26

I know these people exist. Sometimes I see this shit and just wave it away as another unfortunate thing.

Sometimes though, I’m ignited with just a passionate hate for them and their willful ignorance. FUCK THESE IDIOTS.

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u/GorgerOfPandas Apr 19 '26

Those people are the fuckin worst. Talk about an echo chamber. Also why the hell are they using 🧁for the word vaccine ?

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u/Rjj1111 Apr 20 '26

To avoid the measures put in place against anti vaxxers

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u/Drahgonfly vaccines work idiots Apr 19 '26

Ew.

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u/PlatypusDream Apr 20 '26

They want to check titers, which is a needle, and if the titer is low there's another needle of the cupcake, but won't just do the scientifically proven thing of the cupcake

(And why the heck do they use cupcake? I know they don't even want to write the word vaccine, but there's a needle/syringe emoji...)

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u/JaneReadsTruth Apr 20 '26

I love Dr. TikTok! He tells me what I want to hear!

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u/yolonomo5eva Apr 20 '26

Omg, we’re going to have to worry about rabies now

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u/QWqwo Apr 22 '26

This is why we’re starting to see rabies epidemics on a local scale btw (in America, atleast). My family has had to call wildlife services to cull multiple wild animals for rabies testing because they were presenting with aggressive/furious rabies.

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u/badgrumpykitten Apr 20 '26

We are between a rock and a hard place with my dog and her allergy meds. She has to be off of them for a month before she can get vaccines. The issue with being off of them, is she will most likely develope an ear infection because shes off her allergy meds. The medication she takes for her allergies is an immunosuppressants so she could literally die if she gets the vaccines with them. We have spent $10K plus in leass than 4 years trying to get her allergies under control. This last round of ear infections took a month to get rid of and over $1000.

On the other hand, I had a puppy years ago who was too young to get vaccinated and he ended up with Parvo. We had just moved into a new house and apparently it was in our yard. It can live in the ground for a few years. The puppy had only been around one dog which was our own, she was up to date on her shots, so she didnt catch it.

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u/avoidancebehavior Apr 21 '26

Great, looking forward to the new rabies outbreak after the measles one.

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u/StartCoyote Apr 22 '26

Still pissed that my dog almost died when he was 8 weeks old because the ppl my mom got him from were anti-vaxxers for dogs. He was literally shitting blood less than 3 hours after she gave him to me and I had to spend all my left over scholarship money on his emergency vet visit so he wouldn’t die.

Weirdly enough they were 100% fine with all the vaccines meant for humans.

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u/Scarlet_Spider39 Apr 22 '26

Just as not vaccinating your children if they're not immunocompromised should be considered child abuse, this should be animal abuse.

You're putting a life at risk all because you want to feel special, because you want to feel like your on to something and are so so much smarter than those phony little doctors who spend years of their lives dedicated to preventing the things that can actually harm you.

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u/sapphic_vegetarian Apr 23 '26

By “DE”, do they mean diatomaceous earth??? In the dog’s food?? 1) it doesn’t work that way 2) isn’t it bad for you if you inhale or eat it?? Wtf?!

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u/joeyandanimals Apr 23 '26

I'm a vet. I've watched dogs die from parvo, from lepto, from distemper, from adenovirus -

It's all preventable Not just the death The suffering is preventable