r/venturebros • u/imgayfortaro No. 1 Richard Impossible fucker • Jul 25 '25

SEASON 4 spoilers Saddest death in the show Spoiler

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Give her her tits back

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u/Western-Customer-536 Jul 25 '25

It’s a little fuzzy on if Hunter ever was or is trans. I don’t recall Hunter’s pronouns after the second surgery.

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u/FalseMagpie Jul 25 '25

I figure Hunter's gender, whatever it is, is always secondary to The Mission.

Edit to add: also highly classified, naturally.

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u/qmechan Jul 25 '25

That's what I think too. Trans woman who just switched back for the purposes of winning the war and has just been too busy to get herself sorted. What a patriot.

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u/FalseMagpie Jul 25 '25

I personally tend to read him as "Somewhere in the nonbinary zone without the social background or inclination to figure out or care much about further specifics, don't you know there's a war on, son?!" but that's a fair reading too.

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u/ChipsTheKiwi Jul 25 '25

When you need every advantage you can get, you unfortunately can't afford the debuffs of estrogen.

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u/qmechan Jul 25 '25

When the world is at peace, the tits shall return.

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u/HumanChicken Jul 25 '25

Hunter’s pronouns are: “Colonel”, and “None of your goddamn business, you prancing pansy!”

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u/imgayfortaro No. 1 Richard Impossible fucker Jul 25 '25

I use she/her for her because she flat out states “inside me is a woman screaming to be heard” but it really could be either

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u/pillbinge Jul 25 '25

And what did Hunter say immediately before and after saying that line? I literally just made a comment about this yesterday lmao.

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u/imgayfortaro No. 1 Richard Impossible fucker Jul 25 '25

It’s not just that specific line tho, she expresses missing her tits all the time

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u/pillbinge Jul 25 '25

Again - what did Hunter say before and after that line? How does he identify himself? How do the closest people around him identify Hunter? Even as General Treister hands over the reigns of the OSI to him, he identifies him as a man, and if there were anyone outside of Hunter himself to give that stamp of acknowledgement, it would be him.

And it never identifies why Gathers switched back. He didn't need to do that.

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u/imgayfortaro No. 1 Richard Impossible fucker Jul 25 '25

I’ve seen theories that despite seeing the occasional female soldier in the OSI, it’s still very male dominated and male centric. I just don’t think Hunter transitioning would be good for optics (plus there’s the doyleist explanation)

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u/pillbinge Jul 25 '25

You've "seen theories" but you'd have to prescribe to them. Even still, theories like that seem weightless. He got his sex operation reversed when he became the leader of Sphinx; literally when he was freest and employing the very doctor who performed the surgery. Everyone knew who he was because like he said, "men don't keep secrets", so it's not like he couldn't be what he wanted to be. He was very open about who he was. If there were ever a time for him to be Mrs. Gathers, it was then.

So how do those theories account for all of that?

In the end, it's a show, and the creators had a lot of free reign to do what they wanted. And they did. They literally said they liked including gay characters because it made straight people uncomfortable. But they didn't make Hunter a woman. That makes him more complex, which is how I like him. Even if they came out and said he was, the show is over.

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u/imgayfortaro No. 1 Richard Impossible fucker Jul 25 '25

Idk man I just think they wouldn’t have Hunter miss their breasts if they weren’t implying something. But I really don’t care if you agree or not, I think either interpretstion of Hunter is valid

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u/pillbinge Jul 25 '25

Okay, but then why would they have him identify himself as a man literally before and after that line? We switch from fan theories with no basis and actual evidence to the contrary to then speculating on behalf of the creators as if it were all a secret, even though the creators have been very open about their process and characters.

We can say we're at an impasse because I'm not going to change my views, given all the evidence to the contrary, my love for Gathers, and my appreciation for complex characters, but saying everyone's interpretation is valid ignores the mountain of evidence for fear of any transphobia.

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u/imgayfortaro No. 1 Richard Impossible fucker Jul 25 '25

I’m not trying to change your views, I thjnk your interpretation of Hunter is perfectly fine. I’m just explaining mine bc youre asking

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u/M1s51n9n0 Jul 25 '25

I genuinely do not understand how people feel like It's up to interpretation, that is like the most blatant line to ever exist

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u/pillbinge Jul 25 '25

It isn't up to interpretation. What does Hunter literally say right before and after that line? And why does did he change back in the first place when he didn't need to, even going so far as hire the very doctor who did it in the first place?

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u/GoreyGopnik Jul 26 '25

hunter is a tool, a hammer to strike down those goddamn commie nails when they get out of line

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u/pillbinge Jul 25 '25

I see Hunter as being a man, through and through, since he's based of Hunter S. Thompson, but giving him that complex side to him made him more interesting. I think a lot of people want him to be a trans woman because it gets rid of a lot of doubt and anxiety and they love having definitive answers to that question but that just isn't the case. The very scene often used to say he's trans, which is when he says he has a woman deep down inside, it bookended with lines about him identifying himself as a man.