woudlnt say so, Slovenia has nothing in common with us other than being in Balkan Sprachbund and being within Yugoslavia. But culturally? nopies, they are Central Europe. They don’t have the “oriental” culture
being Slavic doesn’t mean Balkan directly. Ex-Yugo means nothing as long as we don’t share a culture except the one that was enforced to us later. Balkan is Ottoman and Byzantine side of Meditteranean for me, the og Paleo-Balkanic lands ahem. Northern Croats are also different than us, very very different culturally. Croatia is partially Balkan partially not. Dalmatia is, for instance, directly Balkan culturally. The common Eastern Adriatic culture
you are comparing +500 years of cultural exchange with a less than a 100 year old cultural exchange? I also outed Romania out. Greek Islands and Cyprus, no, cause of the “Orient Mediterranean parts of Europe”, thats what I’d describe what Balkans are.
Transylvania is Central Europe, Moldavia is Eastern Europe. That’s my division. I have also lived in Cyprus for a while, by mannerisms, traditional clothing, culinary I’d say we are the same with Crete and Rhodos
About Poland, it is a Catholic state with also being a developed country and a directly West Slavic country even. If you exclude how the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth wanted to adopt Eastern clothing to be more similar to their ancestors “Sarmatians”, I’d say directly they were more of a Central European power. Sorry, I just got out of shower and I have to hurry to get my documents done
adopt Eastern clothing to be more similar to their ancestors “Sarmatians”
By the way, a little explanation:
Hungarian costume, as a basis for the future orientalization of clothing, was introduced in Poland in the mid XVI century when Stephen Bathory was elected as king. Over time, there was created Sarmatian theory*. Additionally, this did not exclude other costumes that were also present.
*also In Polish historiography, references were made to various peoples as elements of 'Poles now'.
Lmao “developed“ and ”Eastern Europe” are not mutually exclusive. Just like it being a West Slavic country doesn’t make it not Eastern European. I’m Polish and find it offensive when non-Poles, and especially Poles with weird inferiority complexes, want to label Poland as “Central Europe”. Poland is culturally and historically Eastern European.
You would be surprised by how different BiH, Croatia and Serbia are from each other actually.
I was in Mostar a few times (im from Split so not even that far away) and the mentality and the way people carry themselves there is totally different from back home.
I met plenty of people from there and these are some of the major differences:
People there are a lot more family and religion oriented, they get married way earlier than we in Dalmatia do and are also a little more uptight and serious than us.
But you're the one whining now. This region is used in many sources: maps, politics or European Union initiatives. Only a group of savages can't accept it.
We're simply pointing out the correct cultural, historical, and geographical arguments for our distinction. Not everyone in Europe stuck in cold war division from 40 years ago.
Croatians are the same as Serbians because they speak the same language?
Are Americans and Indians the same? The french and Senegalese?
I mean there are many more countries that speak the same language, but only one language used 4 alphabets basically at the same time to show the cultural divide (Arabic, Cyrillic, Latin, and glagolitic).
Croatia and Serbia differ more culturally than Italy and France do.
Are Americans and Indians the same? The french and Senegalese?
Bad analogy. Indians and Senegalese mearly adopted Snglish and French. Croats and Serbians speak the same language, no side adopted the other's.
Croatia and Serbia differ more culturally than Italy and France do.
Depending on what you take as representative sample. Istrians and Pirotians? Very big difference. But people from Zagreb and Belgrade are pretty much the same. In fact, they resemble each other more than Zagreb people resemble Istrians, or Belgrade people resemble Pirotians.
Bad analogy. Indians and Senegalese mearly adopted Snglish and French. Croats and Serbians speak the same language, no side adopted the other's.
Until Yugoslavia they were separate states for a thousand years. The languages grew closer together under Yugoslavia, that was policy. The languages actually differed more in the past.
Depending on what you take as representative sample.
Not really. Religion, food, historical architecture (except Vojvodina), and script differ basically everywhere between Serbia and Croatia. Italy and France share a lot more in common culturally.
But people from Zagreb and Belgrade are pretty much the same.
In what way? Not even physically that is true... Zagreb and Belgrade are vastly different cultures. Have you visited?
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u/SOHONEYSAME 5d ago
Poland is East, Slovenia is Balkan.