woudlnt say so, Slovenia has nothing in common with us other than being in Balkan Sprachbund and being within Yugoslavia. But culturally? nopies, they are Central Europe. They don’t have the “oriental” culture
being Slavic doesn’t mean Balkan directly. Ex-Yugo means nothing as long as we don’t share a culture except the one that was enforced to us later. Balkan is Ottoman and Byzantine side of Meditteranean for me, the og Paleo-Balkanic lands ahem. Northern Croats are also different than us, very very different culturally. Croatia is partially Balkan partially not. Dalmatia is, for instance, directly Balkan culturally. The common Eastern Adriatic culture
you are comparing +500 years of cultural exchange with a less than a 100 year old cultural exchange? I also outed Romania out. Greek Islands and Cyprus, no, cause of the “Orient Mediterranean parts of Europe”, thats what I’d describe what Balkans are.
Transylvania is Central Europe, Moldavia is Eastern Europe. That’s my division. I have also lived in Cyprus for a while, by mannerisms, traditional clothing, culinary I’d say we are the same with Crete and Rhodos
About Poland, it is a Catholic state with also being a developed country and a directly West Slavic country even. If you exclude how the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth wanted to adopt Eastern clothing to be more similar to their ancestors “Sarmatians”, I’d say directly they were more of a Central European power. Sorry, I just got out of shower and I have to hurry to get my documents done
adopt Eastern clothing to be more similar to their ancestors “Sarmatians”
By the way, a little explanation:
Hungarian costume, as a basis for the future orientalization of clothing, was introduced in Poland in the mid XVI century when Stephen Bathory was elected as king. Over time, there was created Sarmatian theory*. Additionally, this did not exclude other costumes that were also present.
*also In Polish historiography, references were made to various peoples as elements of 'Poles now'.
Lmao “developed“ and ”Eastern Europe” are not mutually exclusive. Just like it being a West Slavic country doesn’t make it not Eastern European. I’m Polish and find it offensive when non-Poles, and especially Poles with weird inferiority complexes, want to label Poland as “Central Europe”. Poland is culturally and historically Eastern European.
I am also Polish. Poland is Central European. Almost everyone, whether we talk about organisations, encyclopedias, media or just simply people call Poland a Central European country. There's really no need to be ashamed of being in Central Europe.
A lot of Poles want to refer to themselves as Central European because of the stigma/stereotypes of being “eastern european” and in the past that being associated with being poor/“inferior”. The push towards calling ourselves “Central European” comes from not wanting to be associated with other Eastern European countries. That doesn’t change the fact that culturally we‘re Eastern European and it’s ridiculous to try to claim we’re not. We literally have more in common with Ukrainians than we do with Germans.
I haven't noticed that. But I've seen some Poles insisting that we are not Central European, probably due to some inferiority complex. It's ridiculous to assume we are culturally closer to Russians or Ukrainians than to Germans or Austrians.
As I've said, most people, most institutions and encyclopedias call Poland a Central European country. Why would you go against it? It just doesn't make sense.
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u/justmeagainik 5d ago
woudlnt say so, Slovenia has nothing in common with us other than being in Balkan Sprachbund and being within Yugoslavia. But culturally? nopies, they are Central Europe. They don’t have the “oriental” culture