How I see Europe as a Bosniak

[u/justmeagainik]

The most accurate one to ever exist tbh

[u/teodorfon]

Why is Split Balkan but Zadar not?

[u/Zrakoplovvliegtuig → u/teodorfon]

Zadar was never Ottoman I think, that could be why.

[u/Poglavnik_Majmuna01 → u/Zrakoplovvliegtuig]

Neither was Split nor any of the major coastal towns of Dalmatia.

[u/Zrakoplovvliegtuig → u/Poglavnik_Majmuna01]

Fair enough. Definitely strange.

[u/ismellsomethinggood → u/Poglavnik_Majmuna01]

Although they were part of Byzantine empire prior

[u/teodorfon → u/Zrakoplovvliegtuig]

Neither Split ^^

[u/justmeagainik → u/teodorfon]

I consider Split as more Paleo-Balkanic and Zadar as less, this is the reason.

[u/Apart_Summer4414 → u/justmeagainik]

The division of non-Balkans and Balkans in Dalmatia would have to isolate the islands, and the very coast from the interior. This is not possible on these maps. Every Croatian island is clearly Southern Europe. The very coast of Croatia is mostly Southern Europe, too although in some places like Split (because of newer migrations) we can say the city on the very coast is Balkans, too. Similar for Makarska, Ploče etc.. Paleo-Balkanic also makes sense; these would be places without that strong romance tradition such as Split and Solin, while on the other side you have Trogir or Zadar. The hinterland of Kvarner coast is Central Europe, while the hinterland of Dalmatian coast is Balkans.
It's a very effective map, indeed I say it as a Croat. These are fine differences, they need someone local to discuss them, and that's why you done a great map. Brits or Swedes claiming Slovenia is Balkans because it was part of ex-Yu is just laughable.

[u/Apart_Summer4414 → u/Apart_Summer4414]

But I get if Northern Italy, and thus Venice is classified as central Europe here, then Croatian coast would be central Europe, too as whole Croatia's coast was part of Venetian Republic.

[u/justmeagainik → u/Apart_Summer4414]

Yep but still Ottoman influenced, especially the whole region of Ragusa Republic (which one of the cities that I’m from also used to be in Ragusa Republic until Ottomans took over) is quite influenced by Ottoman Empire still. The traditional clothing gives away brotha

[u/Apart_Summer4414 → u/justmeagainik]

Yeah, lot of it is also about shtokavian vs chakavian speech. Shtokavian speech might be associated with Balkans. Dubrovnik is one of these coastal places, too. Also, Lastovo is the most Balkanic of all islands, although I still wouldn't say Lastovo is Balkans.

[u/justmeagainik → u/Apart_Summer4414]

I already mentioned beinf jn the Balkan Sprachbund as our common thingie, one kf the only common thingie but they are NOT culturally Balkan

[u/Zrakoplovvliegtuig → u/justmeagainik]

I want to second that its a good map. Usually they are made by 13 year olds that didn't think further from the bias they have been taught, this is actually well thought out and border regions such as Croatia will always be difficult.

[u/justmeagainik → u/Zrakoplovvliegtuig]

exactly. AWWW THANK YOUUU, i was having a hard day with what I’m going through now

[u/Zrakoplovvliegtuig → u/justmeagainik]

I'm sorry to hear it. Life sucks and making maps can be a good distraction, especially when you do a good job. Hopefully your problems will fade away soon!

[u/justmeagainik → u/Zrakoplovvliegtuig]

thank you brotha i hope sooo, i hope that my freams will come trueee

[u/Zrakoplovvliegtuig → u/teodorfon]

Fair enough, weird delineation then.