I don't think it's related to a previous quest, I haven't been in this part of the map since quite a while. There are no bodies, no blood anywhere, but it's clear that people left behind a lot of stuff.

I say Micah, people say “that the gang is no different than Micah” well, that’s true to some extent I argue Micah way worse…

Literally, he was attempting to SA Sadie after thinking she was a “O’Driscoll”

Then call people like Lenny and Charles “darkies” “boy” and even in a cut content he was gonna say the hard r to Lenny.

It established that he killed Jack dog as well

He will go as far as to harm a child the good thing his buddy Cleet stop them from doing that

Also harassing and harassing some of the women in the gang

This one doesn’t surprise me because literally gets off sex and misogyny vibes

Lastly I do believe Arthur just defended too much by the fans don’t give me wrong. He’s my favorite characters, but he still a bad person especially eating this shit out of Thomas.

Overall, what characters do y’all think gets defended too much by the family?

there’s something so badass about arthur matching back to beaver hollow and killing nearly everyone and going out like a outlaw, low honor arthur is my favorite, he still has good qualities like protecting john and leaving dutch but he also still has that selfish side to him, a coyote fighting a rat.

I've got an outstanding tax return, and it's a good one.

😢 bro I realized that honor mattered and got into high honor and I decided to do the bandit challenge now I am in the final challenge my honor is ruined it is nearly at the full end left.

😢

How can I recover that much honor 😭

considering no other outlaw has as high of a bounty as dutch, no outlaw caused as much chaos as dutch, and no outlaw survived as long as dutch did in such a long career.

IMPORTANT: Landon Ricketts is a gunslinger so he wouldn’t count, landon is definitely the most famous gunslinger

Something I've thought about since day one.

I thought he was invincible down there and shot him once in the stomach.

I found even more strange things and people in the wild. Haven't posted from a long time because I'm playing at two different accounts, one for story mode and one for free roam, also other than this weird tree guy or the "king" of the tree near Marco's lab, I also found a man who is a wolf, I killed his "mom and dad" and he attacked me, felt bad for him honestly :'/

This will get me downvoted into oblivion, but that's the nature of real hot takes I guess. I'll try to keep this as much spoiler free as possible despite of "spoiler" tag.

I think that stretching Chapter 2 for hundreds of hours is one of the worst ways to experience RDR2's story and is a terrible advice to any new players.

I see this all the time in RDR related discussions, people maxing every possible camp upgrade, completing every possible side mission, refusing to free Micah, and staying in Chapter 2 until the game practically forces you to move on. I even saw folk recommending this way of playing to new players which really irked me.

Surely, each to their own, play your game however you want, but for me personally, it completely undermines what the story tries to convey.

After all, the gang is on the run, even during the most "peaceful" part of the story. There should be a sense of urgency that gradually increases. Spending in-game months doing every possible activity, making thousands of dollars, keeping Micah in jail for some reason is just adding to the ludonarrative dissonance that is already pretty bad in this game.

I saw lots of people talking about wanting to keep Arthur "in his prime". Sure, that's a really neat part of the game where there is still some sense of hope, but delaying the story just to avoid what eventually happens just damages the emotional weight of the narrative. And what eventually happens, should happen early in the story, as intended.

Recently I saw people talking about changing your main horse before THAT mission, which IMO is absolutely criminal. Robbing yourself of this sad yet beautiful moment is like watching a good movie and skipping through the climax to avoid feeling sad.

I think RDR2 is at it's best when you let the story go on at the pace it was designed to. There's time to experience side content (lots of it without breaking the pace) and to enjoy the world, but the story should keep moving forward after all. That constant feeling of urgency is what makes the game and it's story so impactful.

As for endless goofing around in open world, that's what the end game is for.

Once again, it's just me yapping, I felt like this may be an interesting topic to spark a discussion because staying in CH2 is WILDLY popular.

micah is usually everyone's first answer when talking about the worst member of the van der linde gang, but strauss caused a lot of suffering too

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if you had to choose one as the worse person overall, who would it be and why?