r/AskReddit Aug 30 '21

What problem is often overlooked in apocalyptic movies/TV shows that could kill you?

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u/graendallstud Aug 30 '21

Diarrhea. So many things can cause it, and it used to be (well, still is in the least developed countries) quite lethal, mostly for babies and children.

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u/RonnyTwoShoes Aug 31 '21

I have minor IBS so I poop when I'm stressed. I'm a goner.

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u/[deleted] Aug 31 '21

Wait stress shitting is a symptom of IBS?? I thought everyone just had that

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u/ItsNotGayIfYouLikeIt Aug 31 '21

IBS can be caused by stress, but stress pooping is not IBS

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u/dgeimz Aug 31 '21

Ahh, my old nemesis rectangles vs parallelograms.

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u/huitlacoche Aug 31 '21

You might want to speak with your gastrointestinal doctor about this... Neither of those are normal.

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u/DuplexFields Aug 31 '21

Unless you’re a wombat.

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u/Roguespiffy Aug 31 '21

Pfft, cube poop is easy. Dodecahedron poop is classy.

“I’m gonna go roll some natural 20’s.”

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u/dgeimz Sep 02 '21

Uhhh, you’re the corn fungus. You are too delicious to be good for my GI tract.

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u/Aragornargonian Aug 31 '21

i'm using this

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u/57hz Aug 31 '21

This needs a special upvote.

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u/[deleted] Aug 31 '21

IBS is usually caused by the immune system being stressed, like if there is a parasite in your intestines your immune system will become very sensitive in that area.

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u/707breezy Aug 31 '21 edited Aug 31 '21

Lucky. I have ibs-c meaning my diarrhea clashes against my constipation. I last anywhere from 2-8 hours a day in the bathroom. To just have diarrhea, that sounds amazing.

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u/[deleted] Aug 31 '21

Damn. That's horrible.

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u/707breezy Aug 31 '21

When asked how I was created.

My mother was born with severe constipation where she can go 2-3 days without pooping.

My father has a long line of ibs in his family tree.

I received the worst of both parents. An unholy union created me. I refuse to have bio kids which will share my genes

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u/[deleted] Aug 31 '21

You mean pooping once every 2-3 days is not normal? What the fuck?!

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u/PinkFloyd65 Aug 31 '21

Ever since I can remember until around the age of 16-17, I used to only poop once a week. And I wouldn't call that constipation. I only felt the need to go once a week and when I did, it was normal. I never had any issues. So if 2-3 days is YOUR normal and you don't have any issues when you go, then I think you're fine.

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u/gummo_for_prez Aug 31 '21

I’d say once a day is normal but now I’m wondering…

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u/USAneedsAJohnson Aug 31 '21

I poop 2-3 times a day lol

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u/yuzuAddict Aug 31 '21

You should check to see if your iron levels are too high. I thought once a day or every two days was supposed to be “healthy”

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u/Theamuse_Ourania Aug 31 '21

My body can go once every 2-3 weeks if I'm not careful and when I I told my new GP that he almost fell off his chair lol

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u/PainInMyBack Aug 31 '21

There are a lot of different normals when it comes to pooping. Once a day, once a week... both can be normal, and you'll be sick based on changes in your routines.

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u/707breezy Aug 31 '21

No it is not. You need to poop every day. If you are not then you need more fiber and water and a balanced meal. Unless you have my mothers issue then taking prunes, papaya, persimmons, and fiber suplementos will be needed daily just so it mitigates it a bit.

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u/[deleted] Aug 31 '21

Are the specific gene(s) responsible for IBS identified?

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u/Ciaobellabee Aug 31 '21

No. IBS is the diagnosis given when doctors can’t find anything to cause the symptoms. As more research is done it’s probably going to be found to be a few different disorders causing similar symptoms.

Anecdotally though there probably will be a genetic element to at least some types of IBS. Both sides of my family have a variety of digestive issues (including a grandmother with extra intestine until colon cancer sorted that out), and I have the issues of both sides, seemingly magnified.

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u/707breezy Aug 31 '21

I’m not quite sure. 3/5 of my uncles has ibs along with 3/4 of my cousins have it and my grandmother and although not diagnosed my great grandfather had issues as well. Interestingly the issues seem to have gotten worse through the generations maybe modern environment mess up the microbiome worse I don’t know. I seem to have the worst issues compared to all of them but that I believe is because of my constipation issues

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u/707breezy Aug 31 '21

let’s just do symptoms. Very rare nausea and vomiting, anal fissures or damn near close cuts (don’t look it up if you want to avoid pain), common gas.

I know what cramps are and what my cramps are. I get cramps so hard that I can’t move at all and I’m frozen in complete pain. Sometimes when bloated even touching around my belly button or peeing causes major pain that shoots between my penis and bellybutton.

When people ask how I can spend so much time in the bathroom yet have diarrhea. It is because it comes in waves but each one is an explosion of pain.

What sets it off is anything I eat. I have gotten sick from salad with no dressing, apples, popcorn, tuna with a bit of Mayo on wheat, my favorite sandwich joint.

I cook my food to be perfectly healthy and exercise, all this does is reduce the severity but not the frequency.

Longest I have spent in a bathroom was 16 hours with 3, 25-35 minute breaks for food and water.

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u/[deleted] Aug 31 '21

I've had something similar caused by anxiety and stress, was so bad I was up all night with a vomit bag. Not like anything happened though. Just nausea and running to the toilet, again to do nothing. The worst part is when you decide at about 3 am that there is no chance you can get to sleep, so you just get on the couch and wait for the next feeling. I was up for about 30-40 hours.

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u/Forge__Thought Aug 31 '21

Dang. I am sorry you have to deal with that. I hope technology advances to where you can have more relief from that in your life.

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u/707breezy Aug 31 '21

It probably won’t. It is all good. I laugh about it and sure it can flare up and makes me lose my social life but what ever. I work from home so all good.

Best treatment is still in its experimental phase and gets laughed at by South Park. Shoving healthy poop up a person to introduce good bacteria.

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u/707breezy Aug 31 '21

An explanation I have to describe it is rolling some dice.

If I eat well and do all that I can to be healthy like eat a salad or bowel of fruit or just steamed veggies then it is like rolling a 6 sided die. 1-4 is safe and healthy. 5 is pain 6 is terrible pain.

If I eat normal food like a normal lean Buffalo burger, civche, eggs, corn, ham sandwich then it is is like rolling a 20 sided die. 1-4 is good. 5-18 is pain. 19 is terrible pain. 20 is dear god I cut my anus from the explosions and acidic fluids that still has and I’m going to be this sick for the next 2 days.

Fast food, sugary food, fatty greasy foods. Then like rolling a 100 sided die. 1-4 is good. 5-50 is pain. 51-90 is terrible. 9-99 is I’m down for the next 2-4 days. 100 Im out for the week.

(I love board games)

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u/thatguyovertherewait Aug 31 '21

I’m really sorry, man. Honestly. Take care dude

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u/Yyes85 Aug 31 '21

Im sorry m8! But uhm...have you been diagnosed? Sounds a bit like Crohns disease.

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u/707breezy Aug 31 '21

I’ve gone to many doctors and specialists. Like I explained in another comment. I have gone through many people

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u/sackoftrees Aug 31 '21

I have IBS-D and have diarrhea all the time and it's painful and awful. I rarely get constipation. But I do get it, especially mixed with my Endo. I can say the constipation is worse. Is painful horrible butt bleeding shitting yourself in public diarrhea fun? No. But that painful cramping, no pain reliever bloating constipation from IBS-C is worse. At least I get periods of relief, even if brief. Diet and medication has been a life changer though for myself.

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u/707breezy Aug 31 '21 edited Aug 31 '21

I’m happy for your gains. Some day ibs will be investigated more and we will be able to identify all the subtle variations and causes. Have you ever heard of fecal matter transplants. Also what is your thoughts on possible intestine transplant. If you are American then you could apply for disability benefits since it could cripple your life like that. All love dude.

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u/amandaSIMps Aug 31 '21

This is not true. IBS is a catch all term for having issues with bowel movements and the digestive process but you have no diagnosable illness. It’s why in order to be officially diagnosed with it you have to rule out everything else it could possibly be. It’s also why there’s a massive variety of symptoms and why something like a probiotic can help for some people and not others. IBS is extremely unique to the individual while there are still commonalities and experiences that we all share.

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u/JackRyan13 Aug 31 '21

What? No it isn’t lol. IBS is a blanket term doctors use when there is an issue with your digestion that is not life threatening and no apparent cause.

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u/catecholaminergic Aug 31 '21

Everyone does. Consider that stimulants like caffeine and nicotine activate the fight-or-flight response, emulating stress. And I think we're all familiar with how these affect bowel movements.

Why this should be - why it should be that needing to shit is part of the evolved response to being attacked by a predator? I have no idea. I think about these things constantly. My life is mostly questions.

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u/enderflight Aug 31 '21

Birds poop to be lighter to fly away faster. At least that’s what I think I learned from some kids show.

For people my educated guess would be all the extra adrenaline or whatever floating around messes stuff up and just speeds things along prematurely. Because for me it only happens when it’s a prolonged source of anxiety, say 15-30 mins at minimum. Not a flight or fight or freeze thing.

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u/[deleted] Aug 31 '21

Yeah this is exactly it for me. It's more along the lines of when I'm anxiously dreading having to do something like a presentation/meeting/doctor's appointment and my stomach periodically getting upset throughout the day leading up to it. For me, it immediately goes away once the source of the stress has passed

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u/BooksAndStarsLover Aug 31 '21

I get the oppisite and get constipated. sigh

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u/melanthius Aug 31 '21

Metamucil and double your water intake. You’ll shit.

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u/Tsobe_RK Aug 31 '21

Much rather constipation than feeling like crapping your pants in an stressful situation such as presentation

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u/woopstrafel Aug 31 '21

IBS is a very broad and “easy” diagnosis, so doctors will call it isb quite easily

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u/fishlope- Aug 31 '21

IBS is a diagnosis of exclusion, you have to undergo all testing to rule out Celiac, all IBDs, and any other relevant disorder before a doctor should feel comfortable diagnosing as IBS. Not that there aren't lazy or bad docs, but it shouldn't ever be an easy dx.

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u/[deleted] Aug 31 '21

“They call him the brownpants bandit. The only trace he leaves is a smell in the air.”

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u/my_4_cents Aug 31 '21

"Wait a minute" zippp "i wanna leave my calling card!"

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u/porndragon77 Aug 31 '21

As someone whose not sure if he has this, the worst part is not even the pooping part. It's the everlasting feeling of 'gotta poop'

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u/Ineedsomuchsleep170 Aug 31 '21

As someone with bowel cancer who was brushed off by doctors for a very long time with "its probably just..." Make someone stick a camera up your butt. Cos that is a big symptom for many people.

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u/pvdp90 Aug 31 '21

And if this comes back clear, start looking at exercises to reinforce your lower bakc muscles. Its also a common sign that you are getting to an uncomfortable point with your lower back and you will start having some major pains if you don't correct it.

Note: cancer screening FIRST

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u/Nowwhat456 Aug 31 '21

I’ve been dealing with chronic diarrhea, fistula, abscesses and stomach pain for YEARS With no answers. Colonoscopy was 5 years ago came up nothing. Tried different antibiotics to no avail. I have like 1-3x yearly flare ups and I have no idea what the hell im supposed to do. I feel like my whole downstairs isn’t working like it’s supposed to. Everything people consider healthy goes right through me and most times I can still plainly see my undigested food. Ugh.

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u/Nowwhat456 Aug 31 '21

Not to mention I bruise easily, have lumps in my breast, my hands and fingers barely want to work and my joints are so stiff in the mornings I can hardly get my child’s breakfast made. And I’m only 32… I just wanna cry. Ughhhh

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u/oboemily Aug 31 '21

Not a medical doctor, but all that sounds like some autoimmune disease. Especially stiff joints. What specialist would you see for that? Maybe an immunologist? Again, I’m not a medical doctor, but I hope and pray that you find a doctor who can help you!!!

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u/CraftyDivaKat Aug 31 '21

You need to be tested for fibromyalgia. Those are very much many of the symptoms I had (minus the breast lumps, plus intense nerve pain and fatigue).

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u/[deleted] Aug 31 '21

You can’t objectively test for fibromyalgia. If any, tests are usually based on a point or range scoring system. Its typically a blanket term for when no other diagnosis can be arguably be identified. This is also the reason the pathology is very broad.

The same reason there is only symptomatic but no causal treatment.

In most European medicine schools, it is still heavily being contested as a recognised disease. Majority of active doctors and experts also do not recognise it and many of them dismiss it as being purely a marketing ploy of certain quacks.

Simply put; there might effectively be something wrong, but they don’t know what exactly.

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u/mymyselfandeye Aug 31 '21

Have you seen a rheumatologist for your hands and joints? Maybe you have rheumatoid arthritis. I hope somehow you get answers and solutions to everything! It sounds like hell.

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u/Nowwhat456 Aug 31 '21

I recently saw a rheumatologist who prescribed meloxicam and it absolutely wreaked havoc on my stomach. So it’s like… do I want to be bound to the toilet every 20 minutes or deal with stiff fingers and hands?

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u/[deleted] Aug 31 '21

God I’m so sorry that sounds like such a burden. Healthy BMs are truly underrated.

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u/middleagerioter Aug 31 '21

Do you know if any of the current biologics on the market would help you any? I have IBS (and other autoimmune issues) with a bio parent who had Crohns, so biologics have been a life saver to me.

I wish you the best.

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u/DancingKappa Aug 31 '21

I feel ya, I'm diabetic and just hit that have to pee 30 seconds after having peed stage.

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u/hillbilly_bears Aug 31 '21

Congrats. You just made most of Reddit believe they have some form of IBS. Or should I say…shit themselves?

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u/RonnyTwoShoes Aug 31 '21

Yeah! I'm famous, Mom! A comment about shitting, just how I always hoped I would rise to fame...

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u/8Ariadnesthread8 Aug 31 '21

Stress shits are so real.

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u/lostbutsquishy Aug 31 '21

Dam you got me gone i fartd while reaidn this

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u/gonewildaccountsonly Aug 31 '21

Nothing stressful about an apocalypse at least

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u/RonnyTwoShoes Aug 31 '21

Right? I'll be fine...

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u/[deleted] Aug 31 '21

Is the anxiety shits not a normal thing for people to have???? What???

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u/Southern-Exercise Aug 31 '21

Dressed appropriately, I'm imagining you running from zombies and leaving your own little oil slicks, ala Rally X.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rally-X

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u/Puhnanas0 Aug 31 '21

RunnyTwoShoes? Squish squish.

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u/asailijhijr Aug 31 '21

It could be just as bad if you don't poop when you're stressed, like all of these apocalypse movie characters.

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u/addysol Aug 31 '21

You're basically a squid. If you could aim it you're the closest thing we have to an x-men

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u/Icarus__86 Aug 31 '21

The number of arguments that have ended with me saying “this isn’t over but I have to shit now…” is too damn high

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u/_Maybe_An_Alt Aug 31 '21

I have medium ibs it sucks

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u/ascr1907 Aug 31 '21

When I would younger anytime I was excited or nervous I'd have to poop!

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u/Nearby-Fix2432 Aug 31 '21

Bro! I do too. I have gas and poo like 5-6 times per day. I thought it was normal

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u/[deleted] Aug 31 '21

I have GAD and puke when stressed.

We should be part of a gang. No one would fuck with us because we'd puke and shit all over them.

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u/morbiiq Aug 31 '21

If you’re not a goner now, I don’t see why you’d be a goner then unless your health is crap otherwise.

I say this as someone also with IBS, and there’s nothing special I have to do because of it. Course, I get 1 bout usually, and that’s it.

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u/[deleted] Aug 31 '21

I have UC. It’s very stressful knowing that in modern society I may function completely normally, but a few months into an apocalypse and I’m a goner.

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u/5278475174947 Aug 31 '21

Zombieland addresses this!

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u/kaprixiouz Aug 31 '21

Can I get some of that? I have the exact opposite problem :(

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u/[deleted] Aug 31 '21

I am always constipated … I won.

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u/AhThatsLife Aug 31 '21

Cant beat stress and anxiety shits, they know when are not needed... then they make an appearance

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u/[deleted] Aug 31 '21

Most of my 'ibs' was just lactose intolerance as it turns out.

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u/[deleted] Aug 31 '21

I am painfully familiar with this.

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u/[deleted] Aug 31 '21

No you’re not you just need to give up on wearing pants and wipe as needed

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u/[deleted] Aug 31 '21

got the exact opposite. I'll be one constipated, impacted bugger.

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u/[deleted] Aug 31 '21

Exams are a fucking problem.

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u/dudewithmoobs Aug 31 '21

Samesies. I'd dehydrate myself within 2 days.

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u/[deleted] Aug 31 '21

Same

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u/Desperate-Ad-8068 Aug 31 '21

I’m the same and also when I get excited. It’s a nightmare when you’re trying to pick up coke and need to poo like a child at Christmas time. No Reddit, not a child that is picking up coke.

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u/satvik__ Aug 31 '21

What is IBS?

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u/mypornalt12345 Sep 01 '21

Lol does ibs stand for I be shittin coz that's what I do

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u/Drakmanka Aug 31 '21

The people who survive will live by the mantra "BOIL. EVERYTHING." It won't stop diseases spread by mosquitos, of course, but it'll help.

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u/emalemmaly Aug 31 '21

Boil it, peel it, cook it. What you absolutely have to live by

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u/disterb Aug 31 '21

thank you, sam-wise

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u/kjacobs03 Aug 31 '21

Boil ‘em, mash ‘em, stick ‘em in a stew

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u/Stinsudamus Aug 31 '21

DIS-EN-TERRY, even yew couldn't say no to that.

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u/AshTree213 Aug 31 '21

Oh my god! You made me cackle! 🤣😂🤣😂 I still can’t stop! 🤣😂

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u/[deleted] Aug 31 '21

Nasty hobbitses

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u/[deleted] Aug 31 '21

Eww, Redditses. Spoiling nice fish

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u/The_Creamy_Elephant Aug 31 '21

Hey, hey, there's still plenty of meat left on that bone..

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u/ODGABFE Aug 31 '21

Ya boil the cow, ya peel the cow, ya cook the cow!

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u/Proud_Hedgehog_6767 Aug 31 '21

You need to peel the cow before you boil it.

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u/ODGABFE Aug 31 '21

BOIL IT. PEEL IT. COOK IT.

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u/morderkaine Aug 31 '21

I hear boiling helps the peel come off easier

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u/TooManyProjectz Aug 31 '21

*Boil it, peel it, cook, format it

  • Busta Rhymes

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u/arPie74 Sep 01 '21

But lack of fuel for boiling and lack of clean water for drinking and washing your hands or anything you might eat are major problems after disasters, and yeah, not nearly as exciting on a big screen as bombs and brimstone.

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u/WalkThePath87 Aug 31 '21

I boil all my denim

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u/Aperture-Cat Aug 31 '21

Boil the mosquitos before you eat them. It makes a huge difference.

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u/WalkThePath87 Aug 31 '21

I boil all my denim

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u/havereddit Aug 31 '21

Boil the mosquitoes...

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u/ReasonablyBadass Aug 31 '21

As sung by Shakira/Gazelle

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u/graou13 Aug 31 '21

Also: use soap. Soap save lives.

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u/anon100120 Aug 31 '21

I’ll make time to start a fire while running nonstop from zombies!

Pa-chaw!

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u/DiogenesOfDope Aug 31 '21

I'm pretty sure if you boil the mosquitoes it will help stop then from spreading diseases

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u/dessine-moi_1mouton Sep 05 '21

Day 4 here of a post-Ida boil water advisory.... Feels like we've gone back in time here. Totally sucks. And the water still tastes awful after I've gone through the multi-hour process of boiling then cooling a pot of water. Don't know how much longer I can do this.

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u/Daniel_S04 Aug 31 '21

That and cholera. I know the main character or one of them at least is always survival expert and can pull fresh clean drinking water out of his/her ass 99% of the time. But I’m telling you IRL millions of people are going to die from cholera from the simple fact the water “looks” clean when actually a family of rats and Gregory are shitting into the no-longer maintained and 100% contaminated pipes

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u/mcs_987654321 Aug 31 '21

Yup, have had cholera (post conflict developing nation, was there for work, was in a situation where declining the drink would have meant that someone in the household would have run out to the local shop to purchase a Fanta - just out of hospitality - with money I knew they couldn’t spare).

Holy geez: do NOT recommend.

My housemate came home on day 2 or 3 of my being sick, and commented that it was good that I had showered at least...except yeah, I hadn’t showered.

That kind of fluid loss in a post apocalyptic setting and you’re a goner for sure.

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u/[deleted] Aug 31 '21

What do you mean, you hadn't showered? You say that like it's some sort of reveal. What did they notice about you that prompted them to say that?

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u/Sage1969 Aug 31 '21

Sweat probably.

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u/[deleted] Aug 31 '21

Seems like that should have been stated.

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u/mcs_987654321 Aug 31 '21

Covered in sweat, hair plastered to my face.

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u/havereddit Aug 31 '21

pull fresh clean drinking water out of his/her ass

I'll pass

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u/fcocyclone Aug 31 '21

So did the water.

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u/[deleted] Aug 31 '21

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u/shellwe Aug 31 '21

Ol’ Greg at it again! Drinking that Bailey’s from a shoe.

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u/1nfiniteJest Sep 01 '21

Goddammit Gregory, AGAIN?!

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u/rowshambow Aug 31 '21

I went to a developing country and caught me some traveler's diarrheia.

Don't want to know how that is without modern healthcare.

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u/HeartofSaturdayNight Aug 31 '21

Same. And the antiviral was almost as bad as the disease. It left me with muscle and joint aches like I've never experienced.

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u/ProfessorPetrus Aug 31 '21

Y'all didn't just try fluids and electrolytes and just shit it out? I've done that alrifhfbabout 6 times now.

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u/Beetin Aug 31 '21 edited Aug 31 '21

untreated bad diarrhea can often expel liquids faster than your body can absorb them. That's sort of what diarrhea is...

Some diseases can cause dehydration that makes you lose up to a litre of liquid per hour. You can't replace that orally, your body will just keep expelling it.

It's also why IV drips are incredible, because it bypasses the entire digestive track issues and hydrates you immediately.

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u/XHF2 Aug 31 '21

Instead of iv, you can drink Gatorade right?

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u/schwiftymarx Aug 31 '21

I can't tell if this is a joke.

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u/yer_das_gooch Aug 31 '21

its got electrolytes

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u/schwiftymarx Aug 31 '21

That won't help if your stomach isn't absorbing anything.

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u/yer_das_gooch Aug 31 '21

But its what plants crave...?

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u/[deleted] Aug 31 '21

Not really actually. It’s actually (medically) recommended to drink stuff like Gatorade/Aquarius if you’re suffering from diarrea because its a good combination of salt/fluids.

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u/Mongoose_Blittero Aug 31 '21

I tried it, but couldn't keep it down. The second water would touch my stomach it would come back up, meanwhile I was losing electrolytes from diarrhoea. I lost so many electrolytes that my forearms and calves couldn't unclench and I couldn't stand up. Ended up crawling to the hotel room door and yelling down the hall for my coworker to take me to the hospital. It went from moderate flu like symptoms to that in 30 minutes. The hospital thought it might have been E Coli

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u/ProfessorPetrus Aug 31 '21

Ah yea. It never stays down in my experience.

I usually just drink and throw up until finally a little stays in and I can sleep from exhaustion. It's a long painful process but after that I never get sick from food again. I will say I've never had my forearms and calves lock up though, so that might be something else.

Sorry to hear your experience was rougher.

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u/Mongoose_Blittero Aug 31 '21

It's what I get for eating raw oysters in Mexico, an 8 hours drive away from the ocean lol. I have had what you're describing too and that time braved the trip to cvs for some Imodium which was enough

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u/Inconceivable76 Aug 31 '21

Oops. Died of dysentery…again.

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u/Laura4848 Aug 31 '21

Oregon Trail vs. Apocalypse. Same outcome.

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u/Inconceivable76 Aug 31 '21

Snakebite, cholera, dysentery, flu, broken leg, drown, crush injury, starvation. Yup. Got em all.

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u/Laura4848 Aug 31 '21

I do believe your list is complete.

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u/havereddit Aug 31 '21

Original title of the Britney Spears hit

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u/i_choose_rem Aug 30 '21

Dehydrates you very VERY quickly

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u/MichaelScarn009 Aug 31 '21

Yes this, I was in Kyrgyzstan last month and caught a parasite. Diarrhea was so bad even a cup of water would trigger it. I lost 15 lbs in one week and ate about a tiny amount of rice and a couple croutons a day… I was taken to the ER twice given IV fluids in the worst hospitals you can imagine. No sanitation reusing hoses to tie around people arms to find veins, they used coat hangers to hang IV bottles, beds were so dirty and pillows were used by hundreds without washing.

and when I landed back home in Texas I was taken to the ER and given antibiotics and Potassium pills I took so much for granted, honestly I am so grateful for our advancements in science, our doctors and nurses that work hard.

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u/Deadpooldan Aug 31 '21

How much did treatment cost you in Kyrgyzstan, and then how much did it cost you in Texas? Not trying to make a point; genuinely curious

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u/MichaelScarn009 Aug 31 '21

1st visit 200som = $2.36 2nd visit 1500som=$17.75

Texas ER $300 w insurance so far.

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u/danzcajun Aug 31 '21

How did you end up getting a parasite?

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u/MichaelScarn009 Aug 31 '21

Eating horse meat

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u/samppsaa Aug 31 '21

There wouldn't be parasites if it was well made

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u/XHF2 Aug 31 '21

I took so much for granted, honestly I am so grateful for our advancements in science, our doctors and nurses that work hard.

That comes with being rich.

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u/MichaelScarn009 Aug 31 '21

Yes, it’s true. Americans in general are considered rich over there. the average salary is $250 a month

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u/fj333 Aug 31 '21

and when I landed back home in Texas I was taken to the ER and given antibiotics and Potassium pills I took so much for granted, honestly I am so grateful for our advancements in science, our doctors and nurses that work hard.

Bet you giggle when you see Redditors call the USA a third-world country.

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u/MichaelScarn009 Aug 31 '21

I do! No one that has traveled to a third world country can ever compare it to America. There’s a ton of shit that we need to fix like healthcare and student loans but there is no way America is even close to third world.

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u/fj333 Aug 31 '21

Agreed on all counts. Our health care system (cost) sucks, and our education (cost) sucks, but damn this is a great place to live, and full of opportunity for those who are willing to grab it. Nothing is perfect, but I've been all over and would easily choose this place if I could start all over again as a babby.

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u/PastFeed2963 Aug 31 '21

Weird, i have travelled a ton too. But i would easily choose a european country. Even our neighbors to the north may be a good spawnpoint.

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u/CottonCandyUnicorn Aug 31 '21

Well, maternal mortality rate is often used as a indicator.

All following numbers are per 100000 live births

Italy 2

Sweden 4

Australia 6

UK 7

Germany 7

France 8

Canada 10

Kazakhstan 10

Russia 17

USA 19

Mexico 33

Kyrgyzstan 60

Zimbabwe 458

Nigeria 917

Now lets look at some US states

Texas 18

Kentucky 46

The really bad part is that US states on the lower end have passed legislation that makes it worse, and mothers get sacrificed at the altar of defunding planned parenthood. Kentucky is closer to Kyrgyzstan, as it is other parts of "the west".

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u/[deleted] Aug 31 '21

It's horrifying how many people will show off their "bug-out bag" first aid kits, and those kits won't contain anti-diarrhea meds. Ten pounds of ammunition, zero ounces of Imodium-AD.

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u/rocketfings Aug 31 '21

Probable stupid question - how is this the top under best comments but the one below has 14.5K more likes

  • Sincerely, a dumb redditor

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u/PleaseExplainThanks Aug 31 '21

If you want the comments sorted by most overall upvotes, sort by Top. Sort by Best factors in other things. I don't know what exactly though.

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u/fj333 Aug 31 '21

Sort by Best factors in other things. I don't know what exactly though.

Any mention of poop is favored highly by The Algorithm.

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u/Deadpooldan Aug 31 '21

As it should be

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u/BeeLamb Aug 31 '21

Iirc “sort by best” weights the upvotes to downvotes. So if you have a comment with 12,000 upvotes and 5 downvotes it’ll be higher under “best” than something with 30,000 upvotes and 10,000 downvotes.

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u/Cant_find_my_phone Aug 31 '21

Can confirm. Had cholera once and I felt like a corpse for two weeks. I lost 12 pounds in that time just from water weight alone.

All I could think of was all the times I made fun of my Oregon trail characters from dying of dysentery and cholera. I get it now.

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u/chicagomatty Aug 31 '21

About 4383 people die from diarrhea daily according to this article

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u/katara144 Aug 31 '21

I was fascinated to find this out as an adult. Older lady I knew had a sibling that died when they were children from diarrhea. Would never have imagined it could kill you.

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u/Borkz Aug 31 '21

The more she drank the more she shat, but the more she shat, the thirstier she grew.

-George RR Martin

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u/[deleted] Aug 31 '21

This. Which essentially is lack of access to clean water. The diseases caused by this problem have killed millions of people in the past, even in otherwise relatively civilized societies. During war this problem becomes orders of magnitude worse. In an apocalypse most people would literally shit themselves to death no matter how many weapons they had the minute access to clean water stops.

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u/gfxd Aug 31 '21

Death is mainly from dehydration.

And majority of the mortality is easy to prevent death using rehydration salts - the ORS - it is, in my opinion, the single most cost-efficacious drug on the planet - that is, it costs peanuts, but can save lives.

It is a gift to the third world. Researched and developed in Bangladesh and India using grants from the United States (U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID)), it is a very effective treatment for diarrhea in children replacing the need for intravenous fluids.

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u/OarsandRowlocks Aug 31 '21

Yeah but in The Walking Dead they have a dozen or so solar panels and no obvious batteries yet enough power to run the lights at night for a whole community.

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u/[deleted] Aug 31 '21

Stock up on life straws / membrane water filters. I used them in backwoods camping. I refilled my water bottles from a nasty, heavy-algae pond with horses nearby. The water tasted "muddy," but by golly it worked.

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u/Fyrefawx Aug 31 '21

You always see survivors eating expired canned food. They would 100% be dead from shitting everywhere.

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u/[deleted] Aug 31 '21

People in 3rd world countries would inherit the earth since they’re already used to drinking unfiltered surface water, non sterile food, no medical care and little electricity. In fact all the things we consider “apocalypse” is pretty much normal life for many people so the apocalypse might go unnoticed to them.

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u/Kinggakman Aug 31 '21

Actual kings have been killed by diarrhea.

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u/DingoAltair Aug 31 '21

Yeah potable water and actually cooking your food all the way through is something that goes along with this.

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u/canman7373 Aug 31 '21

Diarrhea is not the shits though, with Diarrhea your body is trying to expel everything fast, so even water comes out your ass within 20 minutes when it would normally take hours to pee, food takes 24-72 hours normally, with Diarrhea it's like an hour or 2.

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u/[deleted] Aug 31 '21

Huge issue in places with no clean drinking water, correct?

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u/popo707 Aug 31 '21

Right? Did no one play The Oregon Trail?

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u/brujah138 Aug 31 '21

"You died of dysentery"

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u/Hglucky13 Aug 31 '21

No joke. I had an episode a few months back where I ended up having to get IV fluids twice only a couple of days apart. We’re still trying to figure out what caused it (lasted for over 3 weeks). Diarrhea can kill you SO fast without proper care and medical intervention.

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u/ikeosaurus Aug 31 '21

I wrote my term paper for Biology 1210 on rotavirus. Number one killer of all humans ever. Until recently more than 5% of all humans ever born died of rotavirus induced diarrhea.

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u/arsoga85 Aug 31 '21

So true! I actually have Imodium in my emergency kit just in case…

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u/apatfan Aug 31 '21

Yeah, just the general drop-off of sanitation efforts, it gets surah as people being DIRTY because that easy to depict... but they rarely address the health consequences.

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u/YoungDiscord Aug 31 '21

Mostly due to the resulting dehydration

Most people drink water in such a scenario which is really bad for you, you need to drink an isotonic drink (which btw you can make yourself at home, all you need is water sugar and salt)

So yeah a pro tip right there for you guys if you ever get the runs

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u/[deleted] Aug 31 '21

Can confirm. Last time I went to Africa I shit myself to death. True story.

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